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08-13-2006 08:17 PM
Jerry Bransford Since a few tried to get this back on track on whether an 8" vs. a 10" wheel is better for 33x12.50 or 35x12.50 tires, I'll jump on the 8" bandwagon EVERY time.

The slightly narrower 8" width hangs onto an aired down tire much more easily as it takes less air pressure to securely hold a tire well seated on the wheel. And reseating a tire that has become unseated after having been aired down too much (which will happen more often on a 10" wheel) is MUCH easier to accomplish on an 8" wheel than a 10" wheel. For street use, a 10" wheel width is fine but for anyone who offroads, an 8" wheel just plain works better if you air down enough for it to make a difference.
08-13-2006 01:14 AM
bluvikng CA cops have always had a corn cob up there arse. They will seek any means of making revenue. That is for sure. I see by your statute, that the reason the rods get away with no wheel covering, is they pre date 1971. It all makes sense now.... I still will run my wheels wide, past my fenders, and haven't had the least bit of trouble. But that is here in TX, and cops around here have better things to occupy their time with.
08-12-2006 11:46 PM
jeepersandcreepers
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Originally Posted by tiger22
i know the statute and i understand what you are saying, but i don't know any of my buddies who have gotten a citation fro this and i, along with every other officer i work with, have never issued one (although i see a few examples each day). if officers enforced this statute everytime someone was in violation of it, we could write citations all day long. if you really think about it, almost every jeep or truck that has a lift and oversized tires on it is in violation. how many jeeps do you see driving around with the entire tire covered by the fender? hardly any in my state atleast. as long as you have most of the tire covered by the fender i wouldnt worry too much about it. but then again, when an officer is having a bad day, might be the day he sees you and cites you for the violation.
I commend you for making a reasonable judgement call concerning tires past the fenders but over the years we have had quite a few jeepers that received citations for tires that were everything from 1" to 3" past the fenders. They were all fix-it tickets and required tire or problem to be corrected. Wider fenders are usually over $300 a set and tires are not any cheaper. One person was written by the CHP and for the first offense so he simply found a friend and installed his stock size tires to correct the fix-it ticket. A few months later he was pulled over again with his past the fender tires and this time was fined $200 for the second offense.

Each state have different enforcement regarding things on jeeps. Over the years we have had CA cops write people up for not having off road light covered (lights over 55watts must be covered while on road) and Utah cops writing tickets for bead locked wheels and in Nevada I almost got a ticket for my front license plate being to bent up and mangled. I rather not give any police officer an excuse to pull me over and I rather err on the side of caution and stay within the law.
08-12-2006 08:23 PM
tiger22
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Originally Posted by jeepersandcreepers
CA vehicle law;
Fenders and Mudguards


27600. No person shall operate any motor vehicle having three or more wheels, any trailer, or semitrailer unless equipped with fenders, covers, or devices, including flaps or splash aprons, or unless the body of the vehicle or attachments thereto afford adequate protection to effectively minimize the spray or splash of water or mud to the rear of the vehicle and all such equipment or such body or attachments thereto shall be at least as wide as the tire tread. This section does not apply to those vehicles exempt from registration, trailers and semitrailers having an unladen weight of under 1,500 pounds, or any vehicles manufactured and first registered prior to January 1, 1971, having an unladen weight of under 1,500 pounds.

This is what we know for CA and pretty much all the state vehicle codes are the same, if it sticks out past the fenders you can get a ticket. This should be a consideration on the size of tire you may want to get because if you are on a limited budget and you get whacked by an overeager cop for a fix it ticket, you will be looking at either wider fenders or smaller tires to make the ticket go away.

I'm not against wider tires but if you want to weight all the options, the fenders ARE a real issuse and they can be costly if you get dinged with a fix-it ticket.
i know the statute and i understand what you are saying, but i don't know any of my buddies who have gotten a citation fro this and i, along with every other officer i work with, have never issued one (although i see a few examples each day). if officers enforced this statute everytime someone was in violation of it, we could write citations all day long. if you really think about it, almost every jeep or truck that has a lift and oversized tires on it is in violation. how many jeeps do you see driving around with the entire tire covered by the fender? hardly any in my state atleast. as long as you have most of the tire covered by the fender i wouldnt worry too much about it. but then again, when an officer is having a bad day, might be the day he sees you and cites you for the violation.
08-12-2006 08:02 PM
jeepersandcreepers CA vehicle law;
Fenders and Mudguards


27600. No person shall operate any motor vehicle having three or more wheels, any trailer, or semitrailer unless equipped with fenders, covers, or devices, including flaps or splash aprons, or unless the body of the vehicle or attachments thereto afford adequate protection to effectively minimize the spray or splash of water or mud to the rear of the vehicle and all such equipment or such body or attachments thereto shall be at least as wide as the tire tread. This section does not apply to those vehicles exempt from registration, trailers and semitrailers having an unladen weight of under 1,500 pounds, or any vehicles manufactured and first registered prior to January 1, 1971, having an unladen weight of under 1,500 pounds.

This is what we know for CA and pretty much all the state vehicle codes are the same, if it sticks out past the fenders you can get a ticket. This should be a consideration on the size of tire you may want to get because if you are on a limited budget and you get whacked by an overeager cop for a fix it ticket, you will be looking at either wider fenders or smaller tires to make the ticket go away.

I'm not against wider tires but if you want to weight all the options, the fenders ARE a real issuse and they can be costly if you get dinged with a fix-it ticket.
08-12-2006 06:54 PM
tiger22
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Originally Posted by jeepersandcreepers
Another major thing to consider when running 10" rims versus 8" is how much further the wheel will stick out past the fender. The X has narrow fenders and adding in the 10" tires will attract the attention of the law enforcement officals in most states.
Whatever you do, dont let the chance of getting a ticket stop you from getting what you want. i seriously doubt if you would get one, unless you live in a really small town and they have nothing better to write tickets for. i have never issued a citation for something of that nature and i doubt many others would either... that being said, if anyone has any questions regarding state laws for modifications just give me a hollar... see ya guys
08-12-2006 03:15 PM
bluvikng
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Originally Posted by ntense77
Back to the wheel width... It looks like we have two different opinions. One says 8" are ideal for 12.5's and another says 10" are good. What is the consensous? What about when you drop down the tire pressure? I am going to be buying wheels and tires soon and I don't want to regret my decision.

I guess I'll go with whatever BigJeep repeats next. Just Kidding... You guys are very helpfull.
It is very difficult for anyone to make up your mind for you. All we can do is give you our opinions, and hopefully you can make a decision that is right for you. The reason I recommended the 10" rim, was because, that is what the tire manufacturer recommend, for the tires I put on. You also stated that you were not going to do much wheeling with it. As far as a wider stance, I have always liked the widest stance I could get for stability. If local laws don't like it, you can always put on the extended flairs, simple solution. CA, TX, and other states, don't even require any flairs over the tires. They let hot rods run with the whole tire sticking out. If you want to wheel, and let the air out of your tires, then the 8" rim will allow you to go with a lower air pressure. As JeepCrawler98 said, it will give you better bead protection off road. So it is up to you, to make the final decision, based on your preference, and your wheeling style.
08-12-2006 12:33 PM
ntense77 Back to the wheel width... It looks like we have two different opinions. One says 8" are ideal for 12.5's and another says 10" are good. What is the consensous? What about when you drop down the tire pressure? I am going to be buying wheels and tires soon and I don't want to regret my decision.

I guess I'll go with whatever BigJeep repeats next. Just Kidding... You guys are very helpfull.
08-12-2006 06:50 AM
jeeperman
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Originally Posted by amerijeep
Yeah, he deserves a special title.
I am sure we could think of something!
08-11-2006 09:51 PM
jeepersandcreepers Another major thing to consider when running 10" rims versus 8" is how much further the wheel will stick out past the fender. The X has narrow fenders and adding in the 10" tires will attract the attention of the law enforcement officals in most states.
08-11-2006 08:10 PM
amerijeep
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Originally Posted by bluvikng
It is a tough job, being the forum re iterator, but he handles it very well.
Yeah, he deserves a special title.
08-11-2006 07:04 PM
4Jeepn
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Originally Posted by tiger22
i understand that i am new to the forum, and i would hate to step on someones toes already but has anyone ever notice that "BIGJEEP" just re-words what the person above him says about the question or topic. no hard feelings BIGJEEP i am just givin you a hard time. i really appreciate all the answers from you guys... thanks again

08-11-2006 06:28 PM
bluvikng
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Originally Posted by tiger22
i understand that i am new to the forum, and i would hate to step on someones toes already but has anyone ever notice that "BIGJEEP" just re-words what the person above him says about the question or topic. no hard feelings BIGJEEP i am just givin you a hard time. i really appreciate all the answers from you guys... thanks again
It is a tough job, being the forum re iterator, but he handles it very well.
08-11-2006 05:23 PM
tiger22 i understand that i am new to the forum, and i would hate to step on someones toes already but has anyone ever notice that "BIGJEEP" just re-words what the person above him says about the question or topic. no hard feelings BIGJEEP i am just givin you a hard time. i really appreciate all the answers from you guys... thanks again
08-11-2006 11:13 AM
JeepCrawler98 Run an 8" on a 12.50 - Better bead protection off-road. On road, having run both 8 and 10" wide wheels, I found also that the 8" handles better and holds the tread in line better with the tires- this is due to the sidewalls being angled towards each other, instead of more parallel, which adds rigidity against side to side movement (you could even see this with the naked eye - pushing the jeep on its side would roll the wheels in and out of alignment with practically no effort, with the 8"ers it's MUCH harder).

Even wear between the 10" and 8" is merely a factor of correctly finding the air pressure that's needed for your setup, you can do this with a few attempts with chalk tests. My set of tires before my previous set of tires (33x12.50's), which were mounted on 8" wheels - wore PERFECTLY flat. Your tires WILL look more narrow with the 8" wheels than if they were mounted on a 10" wheel (they will look more squared off when looking from the front), however the tread width remains the same, so it's actually a good thing in protecting your sidewalls.

Oh and the stock wheel width that Jeep uses on a lot of models is 7" with the factory width tires.
08-11-2006 10:08 AM
mrbigjeep x2...its defnitely better to run a 10" wide wheel with a 12.50 but the 8 would be better for the 10.50
08-11-2006 09:41 AM
bluvikng You will have no problems running a 10" rim. Just get the 3.75" back spacing. That is the best rim for running 12.5" wide tires, for even wear. If your going to run a 10.5" wide tire, I would recommend the 8" wide rim.
08-11-2006 07:40 AM
mrbigjeep you can mount the 10" wide rims and they will fit but like jeeperman said, you probably won't get even wear...i would go with a 8" wide wheel
08-11-2006 07:13 AM
jeeperman You may have a rough time getting decent tire wear out of 10" wide rims with 10.5" tires mounted to them. I would think that the edges of the tread would wear very quickly. I would stick with an 8" wheel for tires that narrow. As for the BB, you could wait until whenever for that, you shouldn't have any rubbing issues on the street.
08-11-2006 06:42 AM
jeepers06
8" vs 10" wheels

I just bought a new "X" . Since most of my driving is paved, I am going with 31 X 15 tires on aftermarket rims. I am also going to install a 2" RE BB lift. I want to run 10" wide rims (15")just for the looks. Anyone have any problem doing this and what backspacing? I know I can temporarly run the 31's without the 2"BB, but what about the 10" rims..
Just appreciating your experience and thoughts..
thanks
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