|01-22-2012 08:21 AM|
|01-19-2012 10:12 AM|
I've got 16" under the belly and my trails are cut through woods, over the hills made nasty by mother nature and open country wheeling. But when I am done I have to drive it home, clean it up and use it for work and what the rest of life throws at me. A TC drop isn't ideal for the hardcore but spending 10k+ on a hardcore setup to just explore the woods on a weekend camping trip with family and friends isnt ideal either. My kids dont like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and Ramon noodles that much!
This 8.8 isnt for a big build up, it's to remedy a bent axle end and not sink money into a D35.
I feel stock guys take solace in knowing they have a convertible that can handle anything daily driving throws them
mild lift guys like knowing that a dead end rock road doesn't have to be the end of the road,
and hardcore guy's like knowing if they ever need to cross the Rockys without a road in sight, they can climb the whole damn mountain range if they feel like it.
Its to each his own and how they play. I respect them all, from the 6" lift on 35's MTR guys who never leave the blacktop to the stocker who is heading to MOAB.
|01-19-2012 09:21 AM|
If that's NOT causing you issues, you're on the wrong trails. I've got 20" under the belly and it causes me issues.
|01-19-2012 12:00 AM|
|01-18-2012 11:31 PM|
|klpossinger||If he's correct, the tag on the pass side of the rear will say 4L10 on the bottom left corner if you're looking at it, or if it's not there....pull the cover and the ring gear should say 41 10....41/10 = 4.10|
|01-18-2012 08:45 PM|
Just had a good conversation with the guy. Sounds like a good deal. came from a 97 explorer with tow package,has limited slip, calipers may need to be rebuild or replaced, original mounts have been ground down and media blasted and primed. I've successfully talked the wife into it, picking up Saturday if all looks good. He's a jeeper and is only selling to repair his main rig that some critters chewed up his wiring harness.
On top of it all we work in the same industry and we know some common people.
|01-18-2012 05:44 PM|
Heres a thought also, is there a part number on the diff case...i am going to look at it and just realized I dont know what to look for. i was going to bring the measurements with me to verify, but he is selling the 8.8 and bracket kit so cheap that I don't wanna get taken and buy something that isnt what it says it is. .
original ad asking 300.00
Poison Spyder kit for installing Ford 8.8 axle in a Jeep TJ. Axle is from a tow-package Explorer, disc Brake, 4.10 geared. Kit includes coil spring perches, shock mounts, and brackets for the four point Jeep diff set up. No time to install it in mine.. This diff and axles are far stronger than any stock jeep stuff and add disc brakes to your rig.
|01-18-2012 04:55 PM|
I just got my 8.8 from the wrecking yard and am researching all thats involved. Found this and has some good info.
Ford 8.8 axle swap parts for Jeep TJ, YJ, and XJ
|01-18-2012 04:27 PM|
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|01-18-2012 04:09 PM|
|01-18-2012 04:04 PM|
|01-18-2012 04:02 PM|
|Kevbz||he says he has bought the Poison Spider Bracket kit already, just clearing out projects he has laying around. I cant find any info on Poison Spider and their bracket set-up on their website though. I'm only buying this one is because (well, other than having a D35 with a tweaked driver side wheel stud "plate") is he was putting it on a TJ, from the right doner explorer with 31 spline and disk brakes AND has my ratio already, not to mention its had the old mounts ground off and is prepped and primer'ed. Only thing I don't know is if the ring and pinion are in good shape, but I'll check it out when I go look at it.|
|01-18-2012 03:21 PM|
If I didn't already have an 8.8 set up under my rig, the Artec truss and bracket system would be what I would go with.
|01-18-2012 02:23 PM|
|01-18-2012 02:20 PM|
If you want to save some cash at the welder or fab shop, go with the truss and bracket kit from Artec Ind.
Awesome kit, the truss is an awesome addition to any rear axle and isnt much more.
It also eliminates all guess work and measuring for putting the brackets on a naked 8.8.
|01-18-2012 09:31 AM|
|01-18-2012 09:22 AM|
the 8.8 is the right ratio, comes with the unwelded bracket set, so other than connecting the brakes and driveshaft I can run it until I save more money
|01-18-2012 09:12 AM|
Well if you look at your list, everything like the ARB, gears, diff cover, etc.. aren't exactly necessary to run the 8.8, they're more it's nice to have and eventually what you'll probably want to work towards. It's more of a case-by-case thing. I'm choosing to do things incrementally to spread out the spending; I'm buying a house and getting married in a few months so lets just say I'm a little strapped for cash right now.
For example, this is what I'm doing. Bob (solman) found an 8.8 with 3.73 gears, which my Jeep conveniently is running. This will allow me to run the 8.8 this way until I am able to regear my Jeep. Basically, all I had to buy to complete the swap is:
* The axle
* A bracket kit: there are many of these out there, pick what works best for your situation
* Rotors, calipers, and brake pads
* Brake lines to tap into existing hardlines
* E-brake cable
* Adapter for u-joint/axle yoke
Everything else is pretty much on a case-by-case basis, or as you want it. Eventually I'll be regearing, getting a locker, installing the Superior 8.8 kit, heavier diff cover, etc. but what I have now will let me run the 8.8 for a while until I save up to finish the build. If you want you can do it all at once, it really doesn't matter. I just chose to do things a little at a time. Like I said, that thread above from JeepsUnlimited covers all of this and more.
|01-18-2012 09:07 AM|
|klpossinger||Pick up another Tj Dana 35...even if its an empty housing...also I have some of those conversions to connect you drive shaft to the 8.8 that ill sell just pm me.|
|01-18-2012 09:02 AM|
On the 8.8 write up I found this section:
What do I need for a swap into a tj?
Here are some things I used:
-TeraFlex Bracket kit
-U.S. Gears 4.56
-Master install kit (Timken)
-Crane diff cover
-Napa brake line kit P/N 380528 (x2)
-T-hose NAPA P/N 380889
*TJ Rubicon brake cables 52128428AA and 52128429AA thanks jeepit!
-ZJ E-brake cables (drivers and passenger side)
Mopar P/N 52008904 & 52008905
NAPA P/N 95342 (right) 95347 (left). (not for YJs)
-Driveshaft adapter: Spicer 2-2-1379
-Flange bolts Ford P/N N800594-S100 (x4)
-'03 TJ Rubicon (w/disc) proportioning valve P/N 5083808AA
-3/16" hard brake line about 40" & 18"
does this seem to cover it on other items needed, or is it a more of a case by case basis?
|01-18-2012 08:05 AM|
Check here for more info than you ever cared to know about 8.8 swaps:
8.8 FACTS, OPINIONS & HOW-TO'S (F.A.Q.) - JeepsUnlimited.com Forums
Solman has setup a few 8.8s now, so if you need advice you can always shoot him a PM. He's a pretty good guy and I'm sure he wouldn't mind helping you out.
|01-18-2012 07:18 AM|
From what i have been gathering that seems to be the way to go. Compare it to the D35 that comes out and match, with adjustments for the fact that the D35 mounts were stock before any lift.
I was hoping to have the 8.8 welded up and painted to swap in fast, its my DD and cant stay down for long, but am finding out that short of someone having a jig that does 8.8 - TJ swaps all the time, both axles have to be out before the welding.
|01-17-2012 11:04 PM|
|klpossinger||I did my own 8.8 swap in mine, and I pulled out my d35, then put the d35 and the 8.8 both on the same pair of saw horses facing the same direction. I used a magnetic angle finder on the flange of the 8.8 and across the yoke of the d35 to ensure that they were both at the same starting point. Then I measured the position of all the brackets from there (and added in a few degrees of rotation to each of the brackets since I have 5.5" rustys springs). I also took advantage of the situation and rotated my shock mounts much higher than they were on the d35 so they are no longer a ground clearance issue.|
|01-17-2012 06:31 PM|
|01-17-2012 06:10 PM|
|Kevbz||I'm a it confused about a when you need a SYE. My lift kit actually lowered the t-case and the mounts for the control arms to keep the geometry close to the same while achieving lift. When is a SYE necessary?|
|01-16-2012 09:52 PM|
|01-16-2012 09:44 PM|
Neew info on a 8.8 axle and Poison Spider bracket kit
Got a lead on a 8.8 (same ratio ) the explorer brackets have been removed, its been ground down and been sprayed with primer. they are selling a Poison Spider TJ bracket kit with it. I cant find any info in the Poison Spider kit.
I can weld, and know other welders that can help...but don't know differentials and proper angles to put the brackets in at. Is this a DIY project (like that come with directions!) or do I need a Dif shop to fab it up? Am I going to need more than the axle and kit to move forward (literary) like new control arms or anything.I know I'll need brake lines and u joints to merry them up.
I appreciate any info from someone who has welded the brackets up before.