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06-19-2013 01:24 PM
18usc371
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Originally Posted by max-1 View Post
My second concern is, the skid plate installation mentions cutting and grinding sections of the cross member bar of the frame. Is that really required if so how difficult and time consuming was that?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Sometime mid to late in the 2012 build cycle, I assume when the COD MW started rolling out with AEV bumpers, Jeep modified the cross members so they did not need to be cut. It mentions this somewhere in the AEV instructions, I believe. I have a very late 2012 JKUR and everything bolted up with no modifications or grinding.

It took me 8h, and that included a Warn 9 install, taking my time, a few (stupid) mistakes, a sandwhich, and 45min of brain time figuring out how to bolt the rear of the skid, which can be a PITA. There's a couple of trick methods to install the skid bolts that only take 10min.
06-19-2013 07:18 AM
utjdh04 If you want to compensate for the extra weight of that great bumper/winch without adding a lift, you might try Daystar's coil spring spacer (.75-1.00 in., I think). I installed 'em on my previous TJ and on my '08 JKUR prior to installing a 3.5" AEV DS lift, and was happy with the way it looked and handled.
06-18-2013 09:54 PM
CyberTom
AEV Bumper & Winch Drops nose of Jeep

I just installed the AEV front bumper on my 2013 JKRU and from what I can tell the nose has not dropped down from the weight...if it has it's very little but certainly not an inch:
04-04-2012 04:08 PM
basecamper
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Originally Posted by Stallion289TX View Post
I thought that the AEV bumper is the same as Mopar premium but I realize that there might be a diference after reading this thread. I finally decided to get the AEV tubeless bumper along with their steel skid plate (1099 and 299 respectively). After a great deal of research, I learned that the AEV bumpers sold for 1,000 something are exactly the same bumpers that go on COD MW3 edition (dealer charges 4,300 for the MW3 bumper and claims that it is not the same - in fact, AEV manufactures the bumpers for MW3!!!!!). Now my issue is that, AEV website states that their bumpers fit 2012 wranglers built after 12/21/2012 without any modifications! I emailed AEV inquiring about my Rubicon since it was built in Sep 2011 and I learned that minor modifications are necessary since mine built before 12/21! They sent me installation instructions which don't specify the difference. Has anyone installed AEV bumpers on his/her 2012 wrangler? If so, was your wrangler built before 12/21/11? And what kind of modifications did you have to do? Thanks
I will be installing mine this weekend or next but have been reading the 2/29/12 AEV30103AB version of the instructions online (which are different than the version shipped with my bumper) it appears the modification is for the skid plate not the bumper but hoepfully someone with first hand knowledge will chime in.
04-03-2012 11:15 PM
Stallion289TX I thought that the AEV bumper is the same as Mopar premium but I realize that there might be a diference after reading this thread. I finally decided to get the AEV tubeless bumper along with their steel skid plate (1099 and 299 respectively). After a great deal of research, I learned that the AEV bumpers sold for 1,000 something are exactly the same bumpers that go on COD MW3 edition (dealer charges 4,300 for the MW3 bumper and claims that it is not the same - in fact, AEV manufactures the bumpers for MW3!!!!!). Now my issue is that, AEV website states that their bumpers fit 2012 wranglers built after 12/21/2012 without any modifications! I emailed AEV inquiring about my Rubicon since it was built in Sep 2011 and I learned that minor modifications are necessary since mine built before 12/21! They sent me installation instructions which don't specify the difference. Has anyone installed AEV bumpers on his/her 2012 wrangler? If so, was your wrangler built before 12/21/11? And what kind of modifications did you have to do? Thanks
03-01-2012 11:09 AM
Kelsey73 Don't know if its already been posted, but Dave on the AEV forums said that the new bumpers will allow for easy grill removal.
03-01-2012 10:44 AM
C6Rubicon Great news. Dealer called Tuesday and my bumpers are in.
02-08-2012 10:29 PM
YetiPags My dealer told me the same thing so I called AEV direct and they confirmed it. What's another 3 - 4 weeks after waiting this long?
02-08-2012 03:23 PM
C6Rubicon Also, just heard from my dealer last week. My AEV front bumper is now backordered until sometime in March. Arrrrggghhh
02-08-2012 02:27 PM
vwphibs
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Originally Posted by C6Rubicon View Post
They don't have tow hooks. They have holes for D rings.
Cool. Thank you
02-08-2012 01:04 PM
C6Rubicon
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Originally Posted by vwphibs
Sorry for being a dork but with the AEV premium front bumper, where are the tow hooks or where would they be added?
They don't have tow hooks. They have holes for D rings.
02-08-2012 02:33 AM
AZduck Have you checked out the Warn Elite? It also rises on the ends to match the factory flares. I think installation might also be simpler than what has been described here for the AEV. KB suggested way back on one of the first posts that you add the 19/60 springs. Since you're only adding weight on the front end, just get the front 19 springs to bring the front back up to stock height.
02-08-2012 01:54 AM
vwphibs Sorry for being a dork but with the AEV premium front bumper, where are the tow hooks or where would they be added?
01-25-2012 10:05 PM
Bulldawgs I just did a little research and the stock front bumper weighs in at aprox 30 lbs (tow hooks included). The AEV bumper weighs in at aprox 116 lbs and my winch (Warn XD 9000i) weighs in at 85 lbs for a grand total of 201 lbs. 171 lbs over stock setup.
I hope I get this part correct. This is with respect to JKU Rubicon 6sp std:
Base weight front:2352lbs
GAWR Front:2775lbs
Grand total difference:423lbs
you are alowd to load the front of this jeep to a max of 2775 lbs before you exceed the GAWR front. Therefore the setup I have brings my modified weigh on the front end to 2523lbs, well within the GAWR front recomendations. If we go by numbers based on the 2012 wrangler specs there in no need to add any extra suspension to the front end to compensate for the weight of the bumper or winch combination. The extra 171 lbs I added to the front end may have changed the rake a little but not enough to change the handleing of the jeep, from what I can tell.

Just a thought
01-25-2012 09:38 PM
Bulldawgs
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Originally Posted by max-1 View Post
Thanks, that is good info to help me decide on the bumper, AEV just looks great and If I do not have to mess with the suspension that is even better.
I can measure my stock JKUR front high and figure out what the diff is! That 35” on the front is from ground to where on your jeep? I know you mentioned you do not have stock tire on now so that will make a different I suppose. but they are 32", which is the stock size, right?
BTW, how are the Blizaks working for you? I have heard a lot of good thing about does for snow and Ice. I would love to see a photo or a link.
Thanks
Max
Good point, I tookthe measurements from the ground up to the bottom of the fender flair, front and back at the same point. Yes the Blizaks are 32's (265/70R17) I put them on the stock rims. These are by far the best winter tires I have ever purchased, they stick like glue. I am a customer for life. They are a little pricy but worth the extra cost. I have the stock tires on 17" Fuel wheels. As requested here are a couple of pics.
01-23-2012 01:14 PM
Nvrmor
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Originally Posted by YetiPags View Post
Yes, the wait for the Mopar (AEV) bumper is brutal. Latest from the dealership is they are getting mine in on Feb. 6th. That was an update from today. Last week they said it would be coming in this past Monday...
Yeah, AEV has been pretty backlogged on Bumpers and hoods because of the 3500 MW3 Editions, and all the stuff for mopar.
01-23-2012 01:05 PM
max-1
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Originally Posted by Bulldawgs View Post
Honestly I cant tell the difference in the ride. I should have measured the front end hight before the change over to see the difference. I just stepped away from the computer and went out to the jeep and measured the rear hight, 36" and the front is 35" on the nose. 1 inch difference from level. In the spring I will put in a leveling kit to bring it up but honestly I really dont know what all the hype about the front end rake is all about. I'm going to raise it because I like the look of the jeep when its level. I understand aproach angle etc but we are talking 1 inch, someone who knows more will have to explain it too me. As for the jeep being sluggish etc... to me it does not feel any different than stock. Right now I am running 32" blizaks and in the spring I will put back on my 33's that are almost 12" wide, that I can feel the difference in the ride and performance. All I know is that I love the bumper.
Good luck

Thanks, that is good info to help me decide on the bumper, AEV just looks great and If I do not have to mess with the suspension that is even better.
I can measure my stock JKUR front high and figure out what the diff is! That 35” on the front is from ground to where on your jeep? I know you mentioned you do not have stock tire on now so that will make a different I suppose. but they are 32", which is the stock size, right?
BTW, how are the Blizaks working for you? I have heard a lot of good thing about does for snow and Ice. I would love to see a photo or a link.
Thanks
Max
01-20-2012 09:43 PM
1CrzyCelt ok, so now I'm pretty much talked OUT-OF the AEV bumper.
01-20-2012 09:20 PM
Bulldawgs
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Originally Posted by max-1 View Post
Thanks a lot Bulldawgs,
How is the ride now with the bumper and winchh installed? Does it feel any different with the stock suspension?
Honestly I cant tell the difference in the ride. I should have measured the front end hight before the change over to see the difference. I just stepped away from the computer and went out to the jeep and measured the rear hight, 36" and the front is 35" on the nose. 1 inch difference from level. In the spring I will put in a leveling kit to bring it up but honestly I really dont know what all the hype about the front end rake is all about. I'm going to raise it because I like the look of the jeep when its level. I understand aproach angle etc but we are talking 1 inch, someone who knows more will have to explain it too me. As for the jeep being sluggish etc... to me it does not feel any different than stock. Right now I am running 32" blizaks and in the spring I will put back on my 33's that are almost 12" wide, that I can feel the difference in the ride and performance. All I know is that I love the bumper.
Good luck
01-20-2012 09:11 PM
NJRubicon
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Originally Posted by TonyT View Post
Hi all, first post here.

I would not do the AEV bumper on a stock jeep unless you need the full width protection and winch. I would do somthing short or mid-width to significantly keep the weight down. It will save you cost, weight savings and ride quality.

The AEV bumpers are heavy stuff. And for the money, there's a lot of better solutions out there.

I know cause I have one:
what bumper do you have, and do you have any other pix of it? I just got a 12 JKR, two things I've always hated about stock JK's are the flares and front bumper. Gonna order Bushwackers and deciding on a bumper. I like the look of yours, I saw an AEV that was around $1100 that I liked, but then found an ARB for $912. ARB seems to be a more common brand, I was wondering if yours was either of those. thanks.
01-20-2012 08:41 PM
YetiPags
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Originally Posted by max-1 View Post
What is a "MOPAR (AEV)"???
AEV is supplying Mopar with their Premium Front Bumpers now, same as an AEV but you get it from the dealership and they call it the Mopar Premium Front Bumper.

I see you are from Santa Cruz, nice place, spent some time there a while back. Have a good weekend.
01-20-2012 04:26 PM
max-1
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Originally Posted by Bulldawgs View Post
I installed the AEV Premium about 4 months ago with the Warn DX9000i. It did take some time to do as posted by Hatt-Attack. I was fininshed in about 7hrs. If you plan for a full day you will not be rushed and will get it done without any major hassles. The only part I had to trim was one of the driving light brackets because I did not like the way it sat in the bumper. That said I had no problems and all the holes lined up but I should mention you have to drill a couple of extra holes, no problem. I did use loom for the factory driving lights after I followed the instructions to extend the line but as mentioned above you may have to rework the wires a little to ensure there is no stress on the cables. All in all I love the bumper and have had nothing but compliments. I too started this mod not wanting to do any lift or suspension mods but once I was done.... well, now that the bumper, winch and lights are on, I will at the minimum install a leveling kit. I find the rake a little much, the look anyway. I do not find the jeep sluggish nor do I find the rake to be too much of an issue (at this time) but I would like the jeep to sit level.
Good luck
Thanks a lot Bulldawgs,
How is the ride now with the bumper and winch installed? Does it feel any different with the stock suspension?
01-20-2012 04:12 PM
max-1
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Originally Posted by YetiPags View Post
Yes, the wait for the Mopar (AEV) bumper is brutal. Latest from the dealership is they are getting mine in on Feb. 6th. That was an update from today. Last week they said it would be coming in this past Monday...
What is a "MOPAR (AEV)"???
01-20-2012 01:09 PM
Bulldawgs I installed the AEV Premium about 4 months ago with the Warn DX9000i. It did take some time to do as posted by Hatt-Attack. I was fininshed in about 7hrs. If you plan for a full day you will not be rushed and will get it done without any major hassles. The only part I had to trim was one of the driving light brackets because I did not like the way it sat in the bumper. That said I had no problems and all the holes lined up but I should mention you have to drill a couple of extra holes, no problem. I did use loom for the factory driving lights after I followed the instructions to extend the line but as mentioned above you may have to rework the wires a little to ensure there is no stress on the cables. All in all I love the bumper and have had nothing but compliments. I too started this mod not wanting to do any lift or suspension mods but once I was done.... well, now that the bumper, winch and lights are on, I will at the minimum install a leveling kit. I find the rake a little much, the look anyway. I do not find the jeep sluggish nor do I find the rake to be too much of an issue (at this time) but I would like the jeep to sit level.
Good luck
01-19-2012 10:46 PM
YetiPags Yes, the wait for the Mopar (AEV) bumper is brutal. Latest from the dealership is they are getting mine in on Feb. 6th. That was an update from today. Last week they said it would be coming in this past Monday...
01-19-2012 08:27 AM
KarlG
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Originally Posted by max-1 View Post
ARB is my second choice. is that what you have? if so how did it impact your stock JHUR ride, and How was the install?
Thanks
ARB would be my second choice as well. Mine is currently stock. I ordered the Mopar (AEV) bumper but gave up after 3 months of waiting. Current plans are for an AEV Premium.
01-17-2012 01:25 PM
max-1
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Originally Posted by KarlG View Post
Welcome! ARB bumper?
ARB is my second choice. is that what you have? if so how did it impact your stock JHUR ride, and How was the install?
Thanks
01-17-2012 01:21 PM
max-1
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Originally Posted by Hatt-Attack View Post
I just did this install yesterday on my 2012 jku rubicon with 9.5cti winch. It's a fairly involved install and the instructions tell 80% of the story. You'll need 120 volt angle grinder with grinding wheel and cut off wheel. A dremel tool with drum sanding bit handy too as you should trim sections of front plastic grill to pull off later. FYI, you have to take bolts out of winch and tilt forward to get grill in even after trimming where body mounts protrude. Also, will have to cut one side of fog light connector and splice in about 6 inches wire as that "7 inches" they talk about in install manual isn't enough if you run loom behind winch as I believe you should.. Get about 2 feet of extra protective wire loom too for what u do undo from stock loom. Regarding war n 9.5 cti winch, it uses 2 awg wire. The positive side is about 18 inches short of optimal run. I made it work by running up air conditioning tubing as I had everything apart and needed to keep to work today. The closed barrel terminals have an eye that is 1 size to big as well. You can get high quality tinned marine wire and lugs at genuinedealz.com, but then you get into heavy duty crimpers. I have all this stuff (restored 43' Hatteras recently). Installing the tow brackets, you will need to grind more metal and washers to properly fit the front of chassis where you have to drill 1/2 inch holes. Same goes for winch plate where you have widen hole to 1/2". You also have to trim away some metal on stock vacuum pump bracket, the 2012 kit has a relocation bracket. One last thing, you may have to relocate outdoor air temp sensor, depending how much you want to trim front grill to clear it so you can take off later. Yep, stock shes sitting lower up front, I noticed it. Putting on rock crawler 3.5 inch lift as soon as they get their rrd shocks in stock (feb), so I'm not worried about.

Wow, Now that seem like a serious amount of mod and work! How much time did you spend on the install? I would have thought that things would line up better and the bumper go on a lot easier!

Thanks for all the detail tips, I know I will use it when time comes.
01-17-2012 10:47 AM
bo9roadking
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Originally Posted by PieFace View Post
i was looking at the AEV bumper too. Im trying to do the 35s and not ruin gas mileage. I should be trying to keep the weight down anywhere I can.

I cant find anything else that looks as good with the factory flares that I dont want to change.

Poison spyder and nemesis have some good options, but then im changing flares.

Any other suggestions for a good looking bumper that i can keep the factory flares with?
I have the Expedition One bumper and I think it looks good with the factory fenders. It fits high and tight for the ground clearance and it is a full width bumper for the added frontal protection. I don't have a good picture of it mounted on my Jeep, so I grabbed the photo off the Expedition One website. http://www.exp-one.com/joomla/index....pers&Itemid=92

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01-17-2012 01:16 AM
NFRs2000NYC
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Originally Posted by PieFace View Post
i was looking at the AEV bumper too. Im trying to do the 35s and not ruin gas mileage. I should be trying to keep the weight down anywhere I can.

I cant find anything else that looks as good with the factory flares that I dont want to change.

Poison spyder and nemesis have some good options, but then im changing flares.

Any other suggestions for a good looking bumper that i can keep the factory flares with?
The weight of the truck is not NEARLY the concern you should have, but rather, the rotational mass of the tires themselves. Re-gearing would probably let you keep your mileage decent, but unless you are going to shed some SERIOUS weight, I don't think it will matter.
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