|01-24-2012 06:10 PM|
|JCROSS||I don't have a new model (mine's a 2004) but I can say this is my all time favorite vehicle. I suggest test driving as many as possible in several different models/versions. I went wheeling with a couple guys that had off the lot 2011's and they made it up some pretty narly trails. The wrangler is in my opinion the most capable off road vehicle right off the lot and it just gets better with mods|
|01-24-2012 06:06 PM|
I got the same itch for a jeep in November. I wanted to buy a used one, but they are hard to come by w/low mileage. So, I went to the local dealer and make the mistake (the sales rep. knew what he was doing) of test driving a 2012 @ 285 HP. Well that was it, I couldn't go backwards after that. I bought a Sahara because I don't plan on doing any rock climbing, etc. and didn't want to spend the extra $ for the off-road upgrades on the Rubicon that I would rarely use. I'm not going to lift it, or put bigger tires on it. It'll stay mostly stock (I did add the upgraded fuel filler door, the door jamb protectors and a grab handle, all Mopar parts). I do use 4 WD quite a bit with the Minnesota winters and the construction job sites I wind up on with my business. I've owned and wore out many SUV's and pickups and I can tell you that none were as fun to drive as the Wrangler. I have most of the goodies: 430N, heated leather, hard top, 6 speed manual transmission. I think the stick makes it twice as fun to drive and I wouldn't have bought it any other way. I really like the 18" wheels and color matched fenders. And since I sell Caterpillar construction equipment, "Dozer" color was for me! I haven't taken the top/doors off yet, but plan to once the weather warms up.
The gas mileage is lousy, but I knew that going into it. It's not my primary ride anyway. Just a fun rig for me.
|01-24-2012 05:41 PM|
I have a 2010 Rubicon with an aftermarket lift kit and oversized tires. It drives comfortably but have found it a little fatiguing for long (> 3 hr) road trips and especially if there is wind. The windshield is also prone to rock damage due to its erect angle.
I have leather interior - very comfortable. Noise is negligible. The hardtop is fairly heavy and awkward to pull up & off, but can be unbolted and removed in 10 minutes or less with 2 people. I would prefer to have a cable system in my garage to make it easier.
My 2010 is very sluggish with acceleration, an issue that I believe has been corrected in the newer models, but make sure to check this if you test drive one.
I have an automatic and wish I had a stick. A great feature is 4WD on the fly - you don't have to stop or lock hubs.
|01-24-2012 05:17 PM|
|01-24-2012 04:44 PM|
You can't ask for a better mid-life vehicle. It's a Ton of fun but still somewhat practical, if you get an Unlimited. The JK is still fun, but has less cargo and passenger room. Plus, you can spend tons on mods, if that's you thing.
I got mine for a hunting vehicle. Stock, it has all the capability I will need. There are a few mods I plan to do to support my hobby, but you can enjoy your jeep as-is.
|01-23-2012 08:19 PM|
Now on to your questions. Your situation is very similar to mine I work from home as well, had a 2005 Avalanche, 1993 Miata LE, and a 2003 Miata. I sold the 93 LE and the Avalanche and bought a 2012 JKUR with nav, leather, max tow, 6 spd, connectivity, and auto air.
1) The Jeep is more comfortable then I expected I love it!
2) Haven't had the top down yet (winter) but I have never had a convertable that didn't give that open air feel
3) Very, and definately go leather it is easier to keep clean
4) I love mine its a blast to drive! It would get old if I commuted daily though
5) In my opinion yes (see below)
The only thing that I am not really too excited about is the mileage its about the same as my Avalanche which is what I expected but I was hoping for better.
|01-23-2012 07:44 PM|
I love driving my Jeep. My wife keeps asking me why I will go to the store or pick up the kids so often. I tell her the same thing every time, get to tool around in my Jeep.
I traded in a 2002 Volvo C70 convertible for my JKU. Yes the JKU is a true convertable with all the enjoyment + some. When you are up high it is easy to look down at the cars next to you, and sometimes, that can be really nice. My Volvo had a button and the top went up or down. You need to get out and put the top up and down with the Jeep, even with the longer top on the JKU I can do it myself, and after 5 times, have a routine, and it seems natural. I am more likely to put the top up and leave the windows out, 50% laziness, 50% enjoyment of having more air circulating through the Jeep.
I went leather, heated seats, remote start, 730 with the Nav, pretty much every creature comfort that my old ride had. Very comfortable seats. Took a few days to get used to the position of the headrest, but it feels natural now.
Don't have a stick, do you know how hard it is to drink coffee, smoke a cigar, and keep your kids from fighting in the back with a stick? But seriously, gave up manual transmissions 15 years ago and am man enough not to care what others think. The engine has enough giddy up to get me where I want to go.
All Jeeps are valid and all mods are personal. Take it out on some trails. Try a local off road park, if you enjoy it, you'll probably get hooked like I did. I put a 2.5 coil lift and some 33" BFGs on mine to start. Gave me some extra clearance and made some of the trails easier. Been adding stuff that I want every since. I'm getting away from my point, its up to you. As long as you wave, its all good.
If I had to do it over again, I would have gotten the Rubicon rather than the Saharra. If you have the coin, go for it.
|01-23-2012 06:55 PM|
With the top up and doors on, the soft top is quiet enough to speak on a cell phone and converse with passengers. That said, it's not a Lexus and the soft top is, after all, really just a glorified tent. Again, keep expectations reasonable. A hard top is going to be as quiet as a typical SUV.
I have a soft top and believe it foolishly easy to put up/down. It takes practice, but I can put my top down myself in about 6 or 7 minutes while wearing a suit.
|01-23-2012 06:44 PM|
I'll take a stab, your experience may vary:
1) I wouldn't want one for a long daily commute, but I look forward driving mine 11 miles to work each day, and of course, even more back home when work is done! Weekend trips to the mountains are also fun.
2) True convertible feel, but not easy to put the top up & down, IMO. If there is any wind noise, I never noticed it.
3) I think mine is comfortable for my trips & errands, but I'm not hard to please. Again, if I drove 60 miles to work, I might want a pick-up.
4) I love my manual transmission. It's a pleasure to drive.
5) I'll let others disagree, but mine is stock and I am always ready to run errands because it is fun to drive,,, for me. Others might disagree. My Arctic JK is my mid-life crisis, and my 5th Jeep.
I use a small 4x8 utility trailer to haul branches, mulch, etc. for work around the house. I suggest you pick one up. Don't forget to wave ,,,,
|01-23-2012 05:49 PM|
Questions on New Jeep
I'm getting the itch for a 2012 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon and have some questions.
Currently I drive a 2007 Chevy Avalanche and love it. I ride dirt bikes and being able to throw everything in the back has been easy. All that being said I'm 47 years old and like the ride and comfort of the Avalanche. Now to get to it...... Beofre the Avalanche I was driving a BMW convertible 5 speed and loved the rag top and stick.
My mid life crisis is telling me go back to the sports car but my body is telling me stay with more room and I need to tow a bike.
So my thoughts are a Jeep to satisfy everything. Does this make sense ?
1) Is a Jeep comfortable on the road. I work from the house so I don't do a ton of miles other than on the weekends to MX tracks.
2) With the top down does it give the true convertible feel. Is it easy to put up and down ?? Wind noise ?
3) How comfortable are they ?? I'd have to go leather as cloth would get too dirty.
4) Is the Jeep enjoyable in a stick ??
5) does the Jeep require a lift for the best looks or just larger tires/wheels ??
My thought is a rubicon with Nav, Leather and tow package. Anything else I should be looking at ?