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01-24-2012 05:29 AM
dutch169 Thanks for the info. Since I changed the dash to an 03 and have and Aux and cig lighter, I tapped into my rear wiper fuse. I dont have a hardtop so I'm not using it anyway.
01-23-2012 11:21 AM
30-284
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Originally Posted by dutch169 View Post
I changed my 97 tan dash to an 03 agate dash. It came with an aux power and cig lighter. After I made the change the cig lighter worked but the aux didn't. It's not hooked up. A little while later the cig lighter stopped working. Checked all the fuses and they are good. The aux power I am going to hook up to the fuse box myself
Your 97 cig lighter will not turn on unless the key is also on, it will have a fuse but will also have a relay that will go open and closed with the ign. If it is the same as my 99, then the relay is to the left of the steering collum near the big plug that has like a 100 wires to it, check this relay or rewire it like I did on mine so you can have power to the lighter all of the time.

Donn
01-10-2012 12:59 PM
jstone326 well the only thing I can suggest is to check continuity along the whole length of the wiring with a tester, like this one: 90V - 1000V AC Non Contact Voltage Detector Tester Pen Stick, Voltage Detector
01-09-2012 09:39 PM
dutch169 I changed my 97 tan dash to an 03 agate dash. It came with an aux power and cig lighter. After I made the change the cig lighter worked but the aux didn't. It's not hooked up. A little while later the cig lighter stopped working. Checked all the fuses and they are good. The aux power I am going to hook up to the fuse box myself
01-09-2012 09:18 PM
jstone326 Welll... Without any more info than that, I really couldn't tell you... what do you mean by aux? The other cigarette-lighter outlet?

have you checked the fuses? Had you messed with them at all previously? When you installed those Daystar switches, could you have accidentally cut a wire or knocked something loose?

If you have an electrical tester, you can trace the wires and find where the break is
01-09-2012 09:15 PM
dutch169 Cool. Now tell me why my cig lighter and aux don't work. Had this problem before this install.
01-09-2012 09:09 PM
jstone326
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Originally Posted by dutch169 View Post
I'll try that tomorrow. So that will turn the light on when the inverter is on.
It should... because the switch is only allowing the power to run through it when it is switched to "on," so the light won't go on when its off... that third tab is for the light, so with a lit switch you essentially have two circuits, one is for the inverter, which is the ground you have, and the other circuit would be for the light in the switch, which would be the ground that you don't have. That needed ground completes the loop for the bulb circuit... it lit when you put the other wires on that third tab b/c you were completing the bulb circuit, but disconnecting the inverter circuit

let me know if it works! Otherwise we gotta re-think this
01-09-2012 09:01 PM
dutch169 I'll try that tomorrow. So that will turn the light on when the inverter is on.
01-09-2012 08:46 PM
jstone326
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Originally Posted by dutch169 View Post
Thanks. Got all that from the Xterra forum write up. I bought a 8 ft extension cord for it. I was going to set a plug up but since I have the top off all summer I didn't want to hard wire one in. I am doing that with my Xterra though.

As for the switch here's what happens. Its a Daystar 3 prong. When ran like so (above/ prong 2 from solenoid / prong 4 from ground) it turns the inverter on. I can switch the 2 and 4 wire and it still works. If I take the wire 2( or wire 4) and connect it to the bottom prong, its lights up the switch up but inverter does not work.
Gotcha...

the switch: I had the same problem once, and finally figured it out... The problem is that the switch itself needs to be powered to light up the switch... so, in order to do that the switch itself needs to be grounded so there is a complete circuit to the bulb in the switch. All you need to do is run a ground wire (a third wire) from the bottom prong to a ground i.e. the tub, and it should work
01-09-2012 08:42 PM
dutch169 Thanks. Got all that from the Xterra forum write up. I bought a 8 ft extension cord for it. I was going to set a plug up but since I have the top off all summer I didn't want to hard wire one in. I am doing that with my Xterra though.

As for the switch here's what happens. Its a Daystar 3 prong. When ran like so (above/ prong 2 from solenoid / prong 4 from ground) it turns the inverter on. I can switch the 2 and 4 wire and it still works. If I take the wire 2( or wire 4) and connect it to the bottom prong, its lights up the switch up but inverter does not work.
01-09-2012 08:16 PM
jstone326 Very nice writeup!! That definitely gives me a better idea of what to do as far as wiring it... I like that location for the inverter, as it is protected, hidden, lockable and when you need it, you just open up the glove compartment and plug-and-play!...

just a thought, I would consider maybe notching the top of the glove box so you could run a wire in and keep the glove box closed, so you can plug something in while you're driving i.e. to charge something

And you said you were trying to figure out how to wire the switch so it lights up... does it stay lit up, or does it not light up?
(I do have a pretty good understanding of wiring and electricity as my both my dad and brother are electricians and I've worked for them a bit...)
01-09-2012 08:00 PM
dutch169 Got to put in today. Ran into a few problems but all done. Not the prettiest install but I was more concerned about the wiring then appearance. I can fix that later.

1. I took the glove box off and removed the storage area.


2. Cut a piece of 12x12 sheet metal in half. I then cut out a 2 inch piece on the top center to fit the locking mechanism (circled red). I also used the holes on the glove box (circled in red) to secure the base. This later turns out to be a problem. The metal hangs to far down and hits against the bottom of the dash board. I then had to cut it again and put more holes onto the glove door.

In this pic you can see the bottom holes moved up. I used 1/4 coupling nuts to give lift the base up and even with the locking mechanism.


3. I used a strip of heavy duty velcro and zip ties to hold the onverter down. Fixing this later but a useful mock up.


I mounted the solenoid to the engine compartment (forgot to take picture but can see it later) and the circuit breaker to the fuse box cover.


4. Now for wiring. I went through the rubber boot that leads into the interior. Ran the positive/negative wires (also the ground switch for the solenoid ). Its up under the center of the dash. Ran the wire behind the dash and to the inverter.


5. Ran the positive wire to the solenoid (blue line). Then ran the positive wire to the circuit breaker. While wiring the positive to the circuit breaker I put the jump wire into the connection to make it easier and cleaner (circled in red) and connected the ground switch (yellow line).


6. I connected the solenoid positive wire to the circuit breaker then to the positive side of the battery. Also connected the negative line to the negative side of the battery.


7. Ran the gound to a switch and then grounded that. Hit the switch and everything worked. Tested it with an angle grinder.

Finished product.




Only problem I had was the glove box door. The mounting I am going to clean up later. I have Daystar switches and trying to figure out how to get it to light up when the inverter is on. I bought only 6 feet of 2 gauge wire. Had plenty of negative but barely had enough positive. Hope this helps.
01-08-2012 07:12 PM
dutch169 Hope to get min in tomorrow.
01-07-2012 10:21 AM
jstone326
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Originally Posted by IncendiaryWit View Post
Cool! thanks!... that's a good writeup... I like that location for it, because as I said in my original post, I need it to be out of the rain when the top is off, I'll probably just buy the inverter and then see where I can squeeze it in
01-07-2012 09:45 AM
dutch169 I saw that write up. My problem is the location of the inverter. My 97 has a metal shield/cover under the streering colum. I don't know if I have room to put mine in that location. Also, I'm not running it to an outlet. I may just run and extension cord to the rear in case I need it back their. Or just may keep the cord in the trunk when I need it.
01-07-2012 09:12 AM
IncendiaryWit
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Originally Posted by jstone326

gotcha... did you find that link to that writeup?
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f140/...xample-598863/
01-06-2012 09:12 AM
jstone326
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Originally Posted by IncendiaryWit View Post
I've only used it for phones or games like a psp to keep the younger ones happy. Much easier than buying seperate car chargers for everything.
gotcha... did you find that link to that writeup?
01-06-2012 09:06 AM
IncendiaryWit
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Originally Posted by jstone326

I guess that's a good way to do it... How much can you do with 400W?
I've only used it for phones or games like a psp to keep the younger ones happy. Much easier than buying seperate car chargers for everything.
01-06-2012 07:06 AM
jstone326
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Originally Posted by kps View Post
you want to run a compressor off a small inverter? whats the draw? is it a small compressor?

I have a 750 watt I use by hooking to my battery & have used it thousands of hours over the last 10 or so years, it doesnt like my electric chainsaw, & barely my reciprocating saw. I know electric chain saw, but I wont allow my wife to use a gas saw, & feel the electric is more controlable & she can drive her truck where she needs to & plug in when she needs to for a downed limb or tree to clear the driveway, or other.

I hope your compressor is pulling under 9 amps? & starting amps load wont pop its internal fuse? I have had to replace my internal fuses at least 4 times, 2 times because I tried to hook it up backwards to my tractor, & it has a red ground & a black positive wire. one of these days I will get new battery cables in correct color for that thing, probably next time I pop my internal fuses.

1 friend tried to hook it to a big compressor 4 hp he said it ran a few pumps & quit & wife hooked it up wrong 1 time.

also I have seen a friend that had one, he was building a hunting shed in woods, pulled trigger on circular saw & blew his alternator. he replaced it with a heavy duty alternator.

Randy
Yeah its a real small compressor, basically just for airing up tires... I'll check the draw on it to make sure it okay though... thanks!
01-05-2012 09:18 PM
kps you want to run a compressor off a small inverter? whats the draw? is it a small compressor?

I have a 750 watt I use by hooking to my battery & have used it thousands of hours over the last 10 or so years, it doesnt like my electric chainsaw, & barely my reciprocating saw. I know electric chain saw, but I wont allow my wife to use a gas saw, & feel the electric is more controlable & she can drive her truck where she needs to & plug in when she needs to for a downed limb or tree to clear the driveway, or other.

I hope your compressor is pulling under 9 amps? & starting amps load wont pop its internal fuse? I have had to replace my internal fuses at least 4 times, 2 times because I tried to hook it up backwards to my tractor, & it has a red ground & a black positive wire. one of these days I will get new battery cables in correct color for that thing, probably next time I pop my internal fuses.

1 friend tried to hook it to a big compressor 4 hp he said it ran a few pumps & quit & wife hooked it up wrong 1 time.

also I have seen a friend that had one, he was building a hunting shed in woods, pulled trigger on circular saw & blew his alternator. he replaced it with a heavy duty alternator.

Randy
01-05-2012 08:30 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by jstone326

Well that's why I get cigarette-lighter chargers
Yeah that's what I'm talking about. I'm actually running a small sub off of one right now.
01-04-2012 09:18 PM
jstone326
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Originally Posted by dutch169 View Post
That site is awesome. Lots of good info on it even if you don't have an Xterra.
Well, forums are awesome!
01-04-2012 09:16 PM
dutch169 That site is awesome. Lots of good info on it even if you don't have an Xterra.
01-04-2012 09:12 PM
jstone326
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Originally Posted by dutch169 View Post
Nope. Purchased it all separetly. I'm not good with electrical stuff. The guy who did the write up is and alot of people followed it without any problems. Here's this link to it. Its from an Xterra site (which I also own and doing this too).
Clean 110volt outlets wired inside/outside the Xterra (Done) - Second Generation Nissan Xterra Forums (2005+)

Project: OR with Tech Package Inverter - Second Generation Nissan Xterra Forums (2005+)
Those writeups are good! Especially the first one... Now I get the point of the solenoid/circuit breaker... basically if you mount the inverter in a hard to reach place, it simply allows you to turn it on and off easily... as I doubt I will find a suitable accessible place to put it, I'll probably end up doing the same...
01-04-2012 09:01 PM
jstone326
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post
I guess I don't need to go as hardcore as some, but run cellphone charges, that kinda stuff off of a 30 buck one I got from walmart. I have another inverter in my garage but dont really need something of that power. I will wait for OBA for tools
Well that's why I get cigarette-lighter chargers
01-04-2012 08:12 PM
GoldenSahara00 I guess I don't need to go as hardcore as some, but run cellphone charges, that kinda stuff off of a 30 buck one I got from walmart. I have another inverter in my garage but dont really need something of that power. I will wait for OBA for tools
01-04-2012 08:06 PM
dutch169 Nope. Purchased it all separetly. I'm not good with electrical stuff. The guy who did the write up is and alot of people followed it without any problems. Here's this link to it. Its from an Xterra site (which I also own and doing this too).
Clean 110volt outlets wired inside/outside the Xterra (Done) - Second Generation Nissan Xterra Forums (2005+)

Project: OR with Tech Package Inverter - Second Generation Nissan Xterra Forums (2005+)
01-04-2012 07:35 PM
jstone326
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Originally Posted by dutch169 View Post
I didn't get the inverter in but kind of got a plan together. Thinking of mounting the circuit breaker on top of the fuse box on the engine compartment. From their run the positive/negative wires ( 2 gauge) into the vehicle behind the glove box. Mount the solenoid behind the glove box and run the positve/negative wires to the inverter mounted on the door of the glove box. From the solenoid running a wire (14 gauge) to my daystar switch. Still not sure if it will work but going to try.
cool... so I'm guessing you need a circuit breaker and solenoid? Which I guess don't come with the inverter?
01-04-2012 04:25 PM
dutch169 I didn't get the inverter in but kind of got a plan together. Thinking of mounting the circuit breaker on top of the fuse box on the engine compartment. From their run the positive/negative wires ( 2 gauge) into the vehicle behind the glove box. Mount the solenoid behind the glove box and run the positve/negative wires to the inverter mounted on the door of the glove box. From the solenoid running a wire (14 gauge) to my daystar switch. Still not sure if it will work but going to try.

01-04-2012 03:38 PM
jstone326
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Originally Posted by dutch169 View Post
I'm about to do this (maybe tomorrow). I was going to mount it insided the glove box. I was thinking of cutting out the pocket part so the door was flat. After that mounting it to the door (haven't figured it out yet). Got this inverter from Harbor Freight ( 12V Power Inverter - 1500 Watts Max ). Using 2 gauge wire ( 6 Ft. 300 Amp Inverter Cable Set ) and this soleniod ( Amtek SAS 42-02) I got on amazon and this circuit breaker ( Amazon.com: 200 AMP 12V HIGH POWER CIRCUIT BREAKER: Electronics). Theirs a whole write up on another site but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link it here.
Run the ground from the battery to inverter. Run power from battery to solenoid to circuit breaker to to inverter with the 2 gauge wire. Use 14 gauge wire to switch. Hoping to get it done tomorrow.
You can definitely post a link, as long as you're not trying to sell anything w/o being a vendor


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Originally Posted by KrzyMoke View Post
I read the manual and it is a modified one but since your not worried about that then it's all good. I like that it is a 1K model. Can plug in some "BFT" Big Frickin Tools
That's the plan! lol
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