|03-09-2008 02:54 PM|
Facinating thread! Truly!
|03-08-2008 10:45 AM|
If you want the ultimate in low buck and will fit 33's
2 inch budget boost
1 inch body lift
Motor mount lift
Bar bin elimnators with shock extenders
Hock puck drilled and counter suck bolted to your lower spring perch
As for black steelies and mall crawlers. Here's a picture of steps at Virtue Flat in the winter. My open/open black wheels and BFG AT's walked all over a Locked Rubicon on MTRs. Mybe its the driver? Couldn't be the wheels.
The only reason I switched out to Cooper Discoverers is I wanted a more agressive tread for mud.
|03-08-2008 09:03 AM|
|4Jeepn||either a small body lift, or a 2" spacer lift would be the way to go. You may get some rubbing with the 32's both on the lower control arm and at full flex but most likey if you adj your steering stops it should help a great deal at least with the control arm rubbing. As for tires, nothing wrong with AT's, or black steel rims.|
|02-26-2008 10:56 PM|
This saying has been around for many years, but by all means lets save their feelings.
|02-26-2008 10:50 PM|
|Triple88a||Thanks Big Jeep|
|02-26-2008 05:41 PM|
|02-26-2008 01:55 PM|
|mrbigjeep||take a hockey puck and just use some gorilla glue on the bottom spring perch and it will act as a lower bumpstop....if the spring perch is higher (cause of the hockey puck) then the top bumpstop will hit the puck and will keep the axles from flexing anymore|
|02-25-2008 10:53 PM|
|Triple88a||Big Jeep, how do you recommend "gluing" hockey pucks? Do you mind explaining. No i'm not against your advice or anything i'm actually curious as i've heard other people doing that too.|
|02-25-2008 09:58 PM|
that was quoted off the website....
honestly i don't think you'll need to extend your bumpstops if your daily driving or doing light offroading and not rocks where your gonna be flexy. if you really wanna add them then just glue hockey pucks to the spring perch or buy the BB from 4wheelcustoms (includes bumpstop extensions) and buy the bpe's/shock extenders seperate from rocky road
|02-25-2008 04:27 PM|
Shock extensions have nothing to do with the stock bump stops (unless they are way too tall to a point where the shock bottoms out before the actual bump stop hits)
Bumpstops are necessary to keep bigger tires out of your fenders. This is where body lifts come in very handy. Adding a bodylift will rise the fenders up higher so instead of using bump stops, your fenders will be up higher.
The next problem i see with out extending your bump stops and just adding plastic spacers on top of the stock coils can over compress the original coil (mostly if you're rock crawling). Just to give you an idea, imagine you have your coil that is 10" long. When you fully compress it it goes down to 5" and then the stock bumpstops hit and limit it from going any further. Now you put 2" plastic spacer on top of that 10" coil but do not extend the bump stops. The spacer cannot compress so the spring has to compress more. Your bump stops will hit at 5" however you have a 2" spacer on top of the stock spring so that will leave your spring only 3" of space. Get the idea?
Thats only for spacers though, if you buy longer springs it should be fine.
By shock extensions i believe they are talking about bar pin eliminator kit or whatever its called. That is good to have as it eliminates knocking because of the shocks sliding left and right across the pin that holds them to the frame (rear) or axle (front) and it also gives the shock about 1/2" of drop.
|02-25-2008 01:25 PM|
|richp||For new in the box thats about as good as you are going to find.|
|02-25-2008 11:26 AM|
So if Iam understanding you correctly this is what I should buy, and this is where I should buy it:
A big difference you'll find between a Rocky Road Budget lift and others is that we give you something you actually HAVE TO HAVE when you put 2" on your Jeep, BPE (Bar Pin Eliminator) Shock Extensions. All other kits only provide coil spacers only, or they give you a bumpstop extension. These extensions are absolutely unnecessary unless you're jumping your Jeep at some sand dunes (bad idea if its your daily driver).... bumpstop extensions are 100% unnecessary. Bag that unnecessary expense and pick up a kit that will actually improve your suspension flex instead of worsening it. Our kit includes Shock Extensions that do the trick!!!
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|02-25-2008 10:54 AM|
if you don't wanna do a BL i would go with a BB. if your goin with 32's you may as well go with a 2" BB. you shouldn't have vibes. if you do then drop the tcase slightly with washers. as for shocks, you can buy shock extenders (which i use in the rear of my jeep and they work great) or new shocks. i don't guess you would HAVE to buy new shocks but i would suggest it.
|02-25-2008 10:12 AM|
|02-25-2008 09:48 AM|
|02-25-2008 08:40 AM|
The PA comes with brackets and i highly doubt you could get a MML done in 15 minutes if it is your first time.
scooby, just wondering how many answers you need. you ask the same question. why would the answer be different now...just messing with ya
i've got about 20K on my BFG MT's and they still look almost new.
|02-25-2008 08:39 AM|
|02-24-2008 08:54 PM|
|Triple88a||I"ll post few pics in the picture thread of the trip as i dont want to hijack Scoobys thread with my trip. Scooby what are you planning on doing?|
|02-24-2008 08:29 PM|
|02-24-2008 08:24 PM|
once it warms up i will. the problem i have now is its over 100 miles to get to the CLOSEST offroad park.
i took it around my gf grandfathers farm through those small dirt roads today.
got some mud on it but it was just too frozen.
|02-24-2008 08:21 PM|
|orange05tj||I didn't know the MTZ got that kind of milage. Damm, wish I researched first.|
|02-24-2008 08:14 PM|
|02-24-2008 08:03 PM|
|orange05tj||I am ditching my MT's for Mall Terrains only because I do 1000 miles a week back and forth to work and school and MT's wore down to fast. I need a tire that will get long wear. I'm going to miss the sound of the mt's howling down the road.|
|02-24-2008 07:59 PM|
Mall terrains, I see. Don't get all defencive Trip. For some people mall terrains are the perfect choice. Like when all your "wheeling" is done in the city and on the streets.
If your going to spend all your time on the road running around town there is really no need for a mud tire. Your better off them rather then having to listen to a mud tire when all your after is "the Look". Which is why they created the Mall terrain.
You should take that thing to an off road park at least once. If nothing else to get some pics
|02-24-2008 07:47 PM|
actually they are ALL TERRAINS
thats a 3-4 foot speed bump as you call it.
When my gf uploads pics from the weekend trip i'll post few more pics.
But those 35s handle the 2 feet of snow out in the country great.
btw i didnt know you go through mud, snow, sand, rocks and other stuff to get to the mall.
|02-24-2008 07:42 PM|
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|02-24-2008 07:23 PM|
|orange05tj||but people can tell stick on armor at the mall.|
|02-24-2008 07:16 PM|
In your case, on MALL terrain tires
or are you runing street tires now?
|02-24-2008 07:16 PM|
The expensive part of him going to 32's is not the lift. That is cheap and easy. His problem is the 11.5 tires and the rubbing they are going to cause. With factory rims and their 5.5" backspace is not going to be enough to stop the wheels from rubbing. he either needs different wheels (cheasy steelies) or a set of wheel spacers. Either way its a big added expense.
If money is that tight Scooby I would just go with a set of 31X10.5 MALL Terrains (like I posted pictures of) on your factory wheels. You will need no lift or anyhting at all and most of the people at the mall wont know the difference between a 31 and a 32.
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