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02-17-2012 02:22 PM
DCSniksder Thanks for all the input from everyone.
02-13-2012 04:39 PM
LBrito
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Originally Posted by jay-1 View Post
acording to this tire test the trail grappler is one of the most quit MT tire not sure about tire wieght they say there around 80 lbs

Nitto Trail Grappler MT Tire Test - Four Wheeler Magazine
I have the Trail Grappler tires on my Tundra, and they have on okay hum at speed. They are about the same sound level as the BFG KM2's on my JK. They're both 35" tires.

On the trail, the only difference I found is that the Trail Grapplers are marginally better in snow than the KM2's. Otherwise, they both do well in mud, sand, and rocks.
02-13-2012 11:42 AM
TrueNorth We just did our 10th lift install in my small 2 car garage at home with simple hand tools.

A 2012 Wranlger X.
Installed old Man Emu 2" medium rate springs and OME Nitro shock absorbers.
It took 2 hours start to finish. Not as bad as you might think.

Takes longer to disconnect the sway bar links, unbolt brake line brackets, ABS tabs and ebrake line hangers than it does to install the springs and shocks.

Next step for Dirty's X is extended brake lines, bump stops and sway bars disconnects. He's already got 33" BFG KM2's and wheel spacers installed.

Yes, people will want you to help them with their Jeep lift kit. Thats parts of the fun in being a Jeep owner! You KNOW how to work on Jeeps.

Hand them a wrench and tell them what to bolts take off while you "supervise" with a cold beverage.

Tips.
You'll need several 18mm wrenches (I bought racheting wrenches, love them!)and sockets, jack stands and 2 jacks.
Front pumpkin is off center you'll need two jacks to lift it high enough for jack stands to droop the axle all the way. Harbor freightt spring comprsessors are a big help too.
Oh, and for the 2012 take the brake line bracket off the spring perch too, you'll need the extra length to get the spring in. grab the top nut on the passenger side shcok with a vice grip and spin the shock body to get it off. Tight spot on the 11-12's.
02-11-2012 06:31 PM
jay-1
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Originally Posted by rics1997 View Post
It's not that the Nittro trail's are not good tires because they are BUT......They are noisy on the road and one of the heavier tires you can buy putting strain on your drive train and excess weight that isn't needed for a build. Just not a great Jeep choice if you plan to drive it on the pavement. Great trail tire though.
acording to this tire test the trail grappler is one of the most quit MT tire not sure about tire wieght they say there around 80 lbs

Nitto Trail Grappler MT Tire Test - Four Wheeler Magazine
02-11-2012 10:45 AM
MarineHawk
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Originally Posted by DCSniksder View Post
Where is hi tech?
4007 Westfax--about a helf mile from that other place. They know what they're doing at HT; Bobby will try to talk you out of anything you really don't need; will recommend what you do need; and he won't say "Hmm, I just don't know why that's happening. ... Ma'am (turngin to another customer) can I help you?" and not look at you again if you have major questions/concerns about something they did or installed. That's the last time I went into the other place. Bobby get's to the bottom of any issue I have, no matter how small. And, while he doesn't know everything, he can accurately answer most of your questions on the spot without saying "I will find out and get back to you by tomorrow." When that happens, it takes days to have a conversation that could last 5 minutes at High Tech.

Just my $0.02.
02-11-2012 09:48 AM
chris.george
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Originally Posted by Overtrained View Post
This^^^......... Thats how I role, only prob is everyone then wants you to work on their crap
I thought that was half the point of a community? Help each other, make friends, learn some cool stuff?
02-11-2012 09:45 AM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by Overtrained View Post
This^^^......... Thats how I role, only prob is everyone then wants you to work on their crap
That's called quid pro quo. Without it, nobody would help you with your Jeep, and then you wouldn't have to work on their...crap.
02-11-2012 09:41 AM
Gate53 Some tires and skid plates should get you by for awhile. The skid plates are important. The things Chrysler call skid plates are made out of Budweiser cans. Good Luck!
02-11-2012 09:36 AM
DCSniksder
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Originally Posted by Gate53 View Post
You might want to look at the BFG km2's also. And don't get the cheapest you'll need at least the 3 ton to extend up far enough to do some of the things you'll want to do. Good luck. Another thing is that Jeep as is probably has more offroad skills than you do right now, so give it a try stock.
I was shocked by the things I could do with a stock sport... I love this ride!
02-11-2012 09:09 AM
Akinvegas I bought wrangler AT-Extreme tires and i love them
they were about 30% less than the Nitto terra grappler.
02-11-2012 08:47 AM
Gate53 You might want to look at the BFG km2's also. And don't get the cheapest you'll need at least the 3 ton to extend up far enough to do some of the things you'll want to do. Good luck. Another thing is that Jeep as is probably has more offroad skills than you do right now, so give it a try stock.
02-11-2012 08:33 AM
daggo66
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Originally Posted by DCSniksder View Post
I am strongly considering it. It would be my first time but I think I can do it.
It's a lot easier than you might think. Other than normal tools, you;ll need a good floor jack and jack stands for safety. Harbor Freight can save you money there and they will prove useful later as well.

Check out google "project JK" and you can find complete write ups for doing most things for your Wrangler and you tube has tons of videos.
02-11-2012 07:23 AM
DCSniksder
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Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
Do the work yourself and save a ton of money.
I am strongly considering it. It would be my first time but I think I can do it.
02-11-2012 07:19 AM
DCSniksder
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Originally Posted by MarineHawk View Post
Take this with a grain of salt, but:

Over the years, I have have plenty of work done at Trick Trucks and more-recently, High Tech in Chantilly. There's just no comparison whatsoever. Go see Bobby at High Tech.
Where is hi tech?
02-11-2012 07:19 AM
DCSniksder
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Originally Posted by Vin View Post
If you want more flex, go with coils. Bugdet boost will give you tire clearance, but you don't gain articulation.
Hmm good to know
02-11-2012 07:16 AM
DCSniksder
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Originally Posted by rics1997 View Post
It's not that the Nittro trail's are not good tires because they are BUT......They are noisy on the road and one of the heavier tires you can buy putting strain on your drive train and excess weight that isn't needed for a build. Just not a great Jeep choice if you plan to drive it on the pavement. Great trail tire though.
Thanks for the input... I was definately concerned with the weight because of my gears..when I am on these tire sites looking at all thee specs I never see the weight.
02-11-2012 07:13 AM
DCSniksder
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Originally Posted by suicideking View Post
What were you planning to get for $4500?

Sounds about right for lift, shocks, rims, tires, and maybe a drive shaft?
Yeah your right.
3" BDS lift 17"xds and 35" trail grapplers
02-10-2012 01:58 AM
rics1997 It's not that the Nittro trail's are not good tires because they are BUT......They are noisy on the road and one of the heavier tires you can buy putting strain on your drive train and excess weight that isn't needed for a build. Just not a great Jeep choice if you plan to drive it on the pavement. Great trail tire though.
02-09-2012 11:38 PM
Vin If you want more flex, go with coils. Bugdet boost will give you tire clearance, but you don't gain articulation.
02-09-2012 11:37 PM
suicideking What were you planning to get for $4500?

Sounds about right for lift, shocks, rims, tires, and maybe a drive shaft?
02-09-2012 11:18 PM
i82much Check out the Cooper STT before you buy.
02-09-2012 10:59 PM
MarineHawk
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Originally Posted by DCSniksder View Post
Hi all. I bought my 2012 sport about 4 months ago. I have about 4 thousand road miles and about 100 trail miles on it. I took my jeep to Trick Trucks in Chantilly VA to get an estimate on the work I wanted done to it. $4500 estimate and a "ARE YOU FREAKING CRAZY!!"(from my wife), I have come to the realization that I need to come up with some less expensive alternatives. ...
Take this with a grain of salt, but:

Over the years, I have have plenty of work done at Trick Trucks and more-recently, High Tech in Chantilly. There's just no comparison whatsoever. Go see Bobby at High Tech.
02-09-2012 10:34 PM
Overtrained
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Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
Do the work yourself and save a ton of money.
This^^^......... Thats how I role, only prob is everyone then wants you to work on their crap
02-09-2012 10:33 PM
InvertChaos Being in Chantilly, I am sure there are other jeepers that would help you for the cost of some adult beverages and pizza. Check out novajeepers.net
02-09-2012 10:31 PM
daggo66 Do the work yourself and save a ton of money.
02-09-2012 05:30 PM
DCSniksder Thanks I will definately look more into the others.
02-09-2012 05:28 PM
DCSniksder
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
I didn't say not good. I said if the OP spends that much time on-road, and so little time off, there are better tires out there.

Doesn't mean anybody has to do anything they don't wanna do. You want Nittos, have at it.
I've thought about the Duratracs and thats actually my 2nd choice... I am just a huge fan of the aggressive tread that the trail grapplers posses... plus the price seems to be more than fair.
02-09-2012 04:43 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by jay-1 View Post
I have heard and read nothing but good things about the trail grapplers. why do you say not good, just curious becuase i was thinking of getting some 37's
I didn't say not good. I said if the OP spends that much time on-road, and so little time off, there are better tires out there.

Doesn't mean anybody has to do anything they don't wanna do. You want Nittos, have at it.
02-09-2012 04:40 PM
jay-1 I have heard and read nothing but good things about the trail grapplers. why do you say not good, just curious becuase i was thinking of getting some 37's
02-09-2012 04:26 PM
kbwwolf If your trail-to-road ratio is 1-40, as you say, you can get better road tires than the Nittos (cheaper, too) that'll perform as well or better.

Look at Cooper, GY DuraTracs, BFG's, etc.
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