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07-18-2012 07:43 AM
97flexy
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Originally Posted by mcpheron24 View Post
Does anyone know how much of a wheel spacer i would need to run 10.5" tires on stock rims
To run a 10.5" you shouldn't need any wheel spacer o a stock wheel, you will need to add spacers to your steering so at full turn you won't chew your tires up on your lower CAs and sway bar(if you run one). But to run a 12.5" Tire you will need to have a BS and I don't know what that is. I think its something like 4.25" or 4.5" on a 10" wide wheel. Don't quote me on that tho.
07-12-2012 12:27 PM
mcpheron24 Thanks ill do the measuring and che k it out
07-12-2012 12:24 PM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by mcpheron24 View Post
Does anyone know how much of a wheel spacer i would need to run 10.5" tires on stock rims
we don't know what stock rims you have now...what is their sizing and backspacing?

you need a 15x8 or 15x10 wheel (most prefer 15x8), and you want ~3.50-4.25" of backspacing. it's up to you to figure out how to get there.
07-12-2012 12:22 PM
mcpheron24 Sry correction 12.5 tires!
07-12-2012 12:21 PM
mcpheron24 Does anyone know how much of a wheel spacer i would need to run 10.5" tires on stock rims
06-11-2012 08:03 AM
pep314
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Originally Posted by Creepy Crawler View Post
I'm running 33s with a zone 3" lift.. I don't rub and I have the front sway bar disconnected at the moment.
Are those pro-comp 7069? I just purchased a 3" zone suspension lift and new pro-comp matte black wheels with 33s. Just started the job and looking forward to the finished product. Your TJ looks sweet, hoping mine comes out as good!
05-23-2012 06:26 AM
97flexy it is a chain step, only the bottom is welded solid so they swing outta the way on the trails.
05-22-2012 07:12 PM
KBR97 oh maybe, lol. I couldn't make out the step. Just a dangling chain.
05-22-2012 06:29 PM
TnDz TJ
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Originally Posted by KBR97 View Post
What the hell is hanging from your sliders?
looks like a chain step....
05-22-2012 06:24 PM
TnDz TJ
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 View Post
look closer...not just flat fenders, but highlined.

good eye... I missed that.....
05-22-2012 03:53 PM
G54
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 View Post
Ramps suck. Waste of steel IMHO.

I'm not saying you could have "ramped" higher at all. I'm saying the jounce bumper can and will compress into the bumpstop cup. It's designed to do that.

You could have a different major clearance problem in the front. Your shocks may be the limiting factor, they could be bottoming out. I don't know. Set the bumpstops to prevent major interferences & shocks bottoming out, then set for tire size last. It's your jeep, it's your job to figure all that out. There's plenty of links and educational info on all that.
Thanks again.
05-22-2012 03:03 PM
KBR97 What the hell is hanging from your sliders?
05-22-2012 11:51 AM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by TnDz TJ View Post
You also have flat fenders... Makes a big difference.
look closer...not just flat fenders, but highlined.
05-22-2012 11:41 AM
TnDz TJ You also have flat fenders... Makes a big difference.
05-22-2012 10:13 AM
97flexy here its sits flat on the ground. I run 33x10.5 cut and sipped TSL's on stock wheels no rubbing.
05-22-2012 10:10 AM
97flexy I'm running a 1" bl on 4.oL front springs and 2.5L rear springs. I used 4.oL front springs to level out the jeep from the winch/stinger weight.

here is my jeep on a 36" tall rti ramp.
05-21-2012 09:56 PM
marlboroman
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Originally Posted by gus54

Here's a pic. So you are saying that if I was able to go up the ramp higher that I would have rubbed since it would have compressed more? Okay...then I learned something new. Thanks, I guess I will have to extend the bump stops then.
So much rust
05-21-2012 08:22 PM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by gus54 View Post
Here's a pic. So you are saying that if I was able to go up the ramp higher that I would have rubbed since it would have compressed more? Okay...then I learned something new. Thanks, I guess I will have to extend the bump stops then.
Ramps suck. Waste of steel IMHO.

I'm not saying you could have "ramped" higher at all. I'm saying the jounce bumper can and will compress into the bumpstop cup. It's designed to do that.

You could have a different major clearance problem in the front. Your shocks may be the limiting factor, they could be bottoming out. I don't know. Set the bumpstops to prevent major interferences & shocks bottoming out, then set for tire size last. It's your jeep, it's your job to figure all that out. There's plenty of links and educational info on all that.
05-21-2012 08:13 PM
G54
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 View Post
when people say "my bumpstops are touching" or something to that effect, I always want to question the depth of that comment. Is the jounce bumper touching? is the bumpstop cup touching?

If the jounce bumper is touching...so what? That will fully compress into the cup and doesn't count...theres still another 1.75" there.
Here's a pic. So you are saying that if I was able to go up the ramp higher that I would have rubbed since it would have compressed more? Okay...then I learned something new. Thanks, I guess I will have to extend the bump stops then.

05-21-2012 08:00 PM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by TnDz TJ View Post
Looks like you won't rub then...since your bumpstops were already touching.
when people say "my bumpstops are touching" or something to that effect, I always want to question the depth of that comment. Is the jounce bumper touching? is the bumpstop cup touching?

If the jounce bumper is touching...so what? That will fully compress into the cup and doesn't count...theres still another 1.75" there.
05-21-2012 06:44 PM
TnDz TJ
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Originally Posted by gus54 View Post
Thanks!



I drove up as far as it would go until the left rear tire was spinning and I stopped. But even if I had lockers (which will be coming eventually) it would not have flexed any more up in those corners than that since the bump stops were hitting already. If I was locked and had gone further up the ramp it would only have showed me how much additional droop I could get. Unless I'm missing something?
Thanks.... I was just curious. Looks like you won't rub then...since your bumpstops were already touching.
05-21-2012 06:39 PM
TnDz TJ
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Originally Posted by BLK00TJ View Post
You can put 40s on a TJ with no lift and no cutting. I'll prove it with an example:



Attachment 124998
LMAO!!! ok.... I deserve that..... hahaha!!!
05-21-2012 06:23 PM
dcstewart Lol.
05-21-2012 06:19 PM
BLK00TJ You can put 40s on a TJ with no lift and no cutting. I'll prove it with an example:



Attachment 124998
05-21-2012 04:01 PM
G54
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Originally Posted by TnDz TJ View Post
Looks great!!!! you have done a great job on your Jeep!!!
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by TnDz TJ View Post
Do me a favor.....

Put your Jeep up that ramp until you pull that left rear tire off the ground by about an inch or so....that will be full flex..... then take pics at the stuffed corners.. I am curious....
I drove up as far as it would go until the left rear tire was spinning and I stopped. But even if I had lockers (which will be coming eventually) it would not have flexed any more up in those corners than that since the bump stops were hitting already. If I was locked and had gone further up the ramp it would only have showed me how much additional droop I could get. Unless I'm missing something?
05-20-2012 10:24 AM
TnDz TJ
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 View Post
x2...whether your rig is mudding or rock crawling, if your junk doesn't work at full bump & full flex, the problems are the same.
X2!!! That's it.... you are on point! Perfectly stated.....
05-20-2012 09:19 AM
UnlimitedLJ04
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Originally Posted by KBR97 View Post
Not exactly..its all dependent on how you build it.
x2...whether your rig is mudding or rock crawling, if your junk doesn't work at full bump & full flex, the problems are the same.
05-20-2012 09:15 AM
KBR97
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Originally Posted by TnDz TJ View Post

All I am saying is.... the size of tire you use with the amount of lift you use is ALL DEPENDANT on what you use it for.....
Not exactly..its all dependent on how you build it.
05-20-2012 08:27 AM
TnDz TJ
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Originally Posted by gus54 View Post
OK since I last posted in this thread I have finished the suspension portion of my build. Some of you already know what I did, but for this thread I will review. NO suspension lift except a 3/4" spacer on the front springs. I replaced the sagging TJ springs with stock LJ springs. Skyjacker shocks for 0" lift. No bumpstop alteration. JKS 1.25" BL. No fender flares and modified the stock front fender into a flattie. 33x10.50 BFG KM2s. Here it is discoed on an RTI ramp. No rubbing at all and bumpstops hitting. It isn't the best flex I know, but not too bad for stock. Just wanted to prove that you do NOT neccessarily need 3 to 4" of lift to fit 33s. More pics on my build thread.




Looks great!!!! you have done a great job on your Jeep!!!

Do me a favor.....

Put your Jeep up that ramp until you pull that left rear tire off the ground by about an inch or so....that will be full flex..... then take pics at the stuffed corners.. I am curious....



Seriously guys.... not being a smart@$$... it's hard for me to imagine 35's on a 4" lift that does rub..... SERIOUSLY!?!?!? I'm talking NO HACKIN UP THE BODY here... just running a lift

The questions come to mind....

Does it ever see the trail where off camber is the nature of the beast?
Does it get flex other than the occasional speed bump at the mall?

I mean.... I wheel just about every weekend and I was surprised to find out that my 4" lift with 33's and 15x8's with 3.75" BS and 2" bumpstops was NOT enough to keep from mangling my fenders under flex.

This shot I'm touching the inside lip of the flare just below the METAL OF THE FENDER.. and I still had the bumpstop to compress.



HEre is the other side... same thing.... but showing the bumpstop...


I had to add another .75" of bumpstop extension to save my metal.... I have since fixed the buckle in both fenders and replaced my mangled flares.


All I am saying is.... the size of tire you use with the amount of lift you use is ALL DEPENDANT on what you use it for.....

If you mall crawl.... 2" lift and 35's may work for you...

If you like seeing the twisted/ off-camber side of things.... 4" lift and 33's with proper bumpstops might be the way to go.... for me.... 4" lift and 1" BL and 33's is what I will have.... I don't like to rub anything under full flex....
05-20-2012 07:28 AM
Rayko I'm running 33x12.5 on 15" Procomp rims with 2" OME springs and shocks. I do mild off roading, sand and mud. Don't have any problems.
I still need to do the front trac bar. It'll be a Curry.
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