|02-20-2012 10:43 PM|
|wanderlust||Ya, I am a young guy... so what|
|02-20-2012 10:34 PM|
|02-20-2012 09:49 PM|
|wanderlust||I scare the crap out of myself often, I have been wheeling for a long time. I have always built my own rigs and have had all sorts from a stock TJ sport to full blown trailered truggies. If I have anything to say to a noobie it is this, never out drive yourself. A stock jeep in the right hands can do things that amaze me. Flip side I have seen many big dollar trailer queens destroyed on "easy" stuff by poor driving. I will go to my last day with the belief that the best mod you can ever do is the driver mod. Best way to get that is wheel often and wheel safe and with good company. Wheel with people that make the impossible look easy and take notes. No matter who I wheel with I always learn something just by watching.|
|02-20-2012 07:53 PM|
|02-20-2012 11:45 AM|
|MTtincup||Lots and lots of $$$$$$|
|02-20-2012 11:42 AM|
Although it would be fun at least once.
|02-20-2012 11:34 AM|
|MTtincup||Yeah you are right Carnage!1|
|02-20-2012 09:35 AM|
|Justin04Lj||I was just kidding also. Drugs and alcohol don't mix with wheeling. Yeah the military guys broke out the brews as soon as we got to the wall.|
|02-20-2012 09:19 AM|
The trails I'm thinking about don't require lift. But that doesn't mean they're all that easy. Lots of very narrow shelf roads and very tight switchbacks. They do require your full attention or you can get in trouble really quick. But they are lots of fun, that's why I will always keep doing them
|02-20-2012 09:01 AM|
|02-20-2012 01:02 AM|
|02-20-2012 01:01 AM|
Pics look great, guys!!!
Hopefully i'll be able to tag along again soon...
|02-20-2012 01:00 AM|
|02-20-2012 12:50 AM|
No, that wasn't Chinaman's Gulch, that was Carnage Canyon BV, which is right next to it. Carnage Canyon should scare people, you have to either be crazy or Wanderlust to even consider such a thing
But I still mean what I say, no one should ever take a trail where they have no idea what they're getting into. Plus offroading should be learned on a gradient. There are skills you need to learn at every level of difficulty and you need to build on those for the next level. Of course this doesn't apply to me, because I have found trails that I doubt any one else knows about and a couple of them scare the shit out of me, and I really had no business whatsoever being where I was
Chinaman's Gulch really isn't any worse than China Wall, plus you can stop along the way and watch the hardcores trash their buggies down in Carnage. It's actually a lot of fun...
|02-20-2012 12:30 AM|
|02-20-2012 12:10 AM|
|jdubp44||that looks like a really fun trail! awesome pics, i need to find trails like that here in utah, except it just snowed last night so i gotta wait a little longer|
|02-19-2012 11:44 PM|
|MTtincup||Ed, I think you missed the point....the video I am referring to was on u-tube about chinaman's gulch not china wall. Chinaman's is only for special designed rock climbers not stock jeeps..........excuse my humor!|
|02-19-2012 11:44 PM|
|Justin04Lj||Oldguy you lead I will follow.|
|02-19-2012 11:35 PM|
A newbie goes in thinking "oh, this will be easy, I've driven on dirt roads before..." And then they get the shit scared out of them. Or worse, they get body damage and all of a sudden all the fun is gone. Which way are they going to go? I hate to see a potential offroader get scared off his first time out because he's on a trail that he is not psychology prepared to deal with.
So, in the case of a trail like China Wall, if a video like that scares someone, good, if they still go great. It's still going to scare them but at least the know what they're getting into. Personally I would never recommend China Wall for a first time out. But that's me.
I still remember the first time I did China Wall, I was pretty green, I was alone, and all I did was the out and back to 204. And it still scared me silly by the time I got to the first ridge. But then I always got back on my bike.
I know a bunch of trails in the area around Divide and Tarryall that are fun, build good offroad skills and will keep any driver on his toes. But they are a couple levels down from China Wall. I'll be posting runs for these trails later this spring, for the above reasons plus I really enjoy those trails and I would be doing them anyway. But those are the trails where I really learned to drive offroad and I think they did a pretty good job.
Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox now. I guess there's no right or wrong answer, just choices and consequences.
|02-19-2012 10:38 PM|
|Justin04Lj||I don't think you would have to be a member. I joined and all you need is to live in Colorado and drive a 4x4 lol. Finally getting my rear bushwhackers on tomorrow yay.|
|02-19-2012 09:59 PM|
|02-19-2012 09:55 PM|
|Justin04Lj||Thanks for the pics looks like it was fun. still looking forward to ouray. frontrange 4x4 has a trip planned for china wall march 10th I will most likely be tagging along its nice and close. they are talking alot of jeeps and having a big bbq and a raffle and prizes.|
|02-19-2012 08:29 PM|
|MTtincup||Reading some of the comments about .....do you think I can make it.....Chad I think you scared everyone by showing the chinaman gulch on the tube!|
|02-19-2012 08:25 PM|
|02-19-2012 07:34 PM|
|02-19-2012 07:14 PM|
Posted in the trail pics thread. Mike, PM me your E-mail and I'll send you some pics of your rig.
You guys missed out on a great outing.
|02-19-2012 06:55 PM|
Here you go
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|02-19-2012 05:44 PM|
|Colo-TJ||I'm working on it as we speak..|
|02-19-2012 04:37 PM|
|02-19-2012 01:01 PM|
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