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08-06-2014 02:12 PM
weissja36
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Originally Posted by JeepFan95 View Post
Dead Reckoning: When a vehicle doesn't have a clear view of the sky - such as in a tunnel or garage, or when surrounded by tall buildings - all navigation systems lose reception of GPS satellite signals. The 730N has a "dead reckoning" feature which enables it to estimate the current location until the sky is once again visible. (At start-up, it also remembers the vehicles last location, and immediately displays this estimated location until it can read signals for a precise fix). This is also known as "Enhanced GPS".
Wow, very cool! Thanks for the solid explanation.
08-06-2014 01:57 PM
JeepFan95
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Originally Posted by weissja36 View Post
I have used and like the breadcrumbs feature. But what is dead reckoning?
Dead Reckoning: When a vehicle doesn't have a clear view of the sky - such as in a tunnel or garage, or when surrounded by tall buildings - all navigation systems lose reception of GPS satellite signals. The 730N has a "dead reckoning" feature which enables it to estimate the current location until the sky is once again visible. (At start-up, it also remembers the vehicles last location, and immediately displays this estimated location until it can read signals for a precise fix). This is also known as "Enhanced GPS".
08-06-2014 01:43 PM
weissja36
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post
As mentioned, the 730N uses Harmon Nav (like Tom Tom?), and the 430N uses Garmin Nav. While I like Garmin Nav more, mostly because I am use to it from other cars, the 730N has a few nicer features like dead reckoning and breakcrumbs.
I have used and like the breadcrumbs feature. But what is dead reckoning?
08-06-2014 01:33 PM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by Gruson View Post
I wish there was a way to make it look like the 430...730 looks so dated. I even use it in nightime mode all the time because it looks better.

Is there a way to change the colors? I would prefer blacks/greys over the terrible blue and light blue colors. My wife's 430 just looks better IMO.
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Originally Posted by Boothill View Post
I've seen the nav system Toyota offers, it is MUCH more user friendly that that of the 730N. Now I just need to figure out how to switch out the one in my brothers FJ for the one in my JK.
As mentioned, the 730N uses Harmon Nav (like Tom Tom?), and the 430N uses Garmin Nav.

While I like Garmin Nav more, mostly because I am use to it from other cars, the 730N has a few nicer features like dead reckoning and breakcrumbs.
08-06-2014 01:14 PM
JeepFan95
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Originally Posted by Todd Phooz View Post
Do you notice the album art work showing up more often? If so, I am going to update. Only issue I have with the unit so far is the album art work rarely showing up.
I was only in the Jeep for about 20 minutes this morning and I was listening to the radio. I'll have to listen to the iPhone on the way home and see what comes up. Funnily enough, I still haven't loaded any songs on to my hard drive. Perhaps I'll do that tonight.
08-06-2014 12:43 PM
Boothill YOUTUBE has been my bestest friend for learning how to use my 730N.

Scale, I belive the circumference of the little blue circle (or is it yellow?) with the arrow in the middle determines scale....I think.

I've seen the nav system Toyota offers, it is MUCH more user friendly that that of the 730N. Now I just need to figure out how to switch out the one in my brothers FJ for the one in my JK.
08-06-2014 12:30 PM
Gruson I wish there was a way to make it look like the 430...730 looks so dated. I even use it in nightime mode all the time because it looks better.

Is there a way to change the colors? I would prefer blacks/greys over the terrible blue and light blue colors. My wife's 430 just looks better IMO.
08-06-2014 11:27 AM
Todd Phooz
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Originally Posted by JeepFan95 View Post
I successfully upgraded last night...

Application - From 2.136 to 2.600
Gracenotes - From 4118 to 5411

Are there any significant differences that are worthy to mention?
Do you notice the album art work showing up more often? If so, I am going to update. Only issue I have with the unit so far is the album art work rarely showing up.
08-06-2014 08:29 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by JeepFan95 View Post
Are there any significant differences that are worthy to mention?
None that I have found. Possibly the firmware is just bug fixes, and we'll not have to worry anymore about tripping over one.
08-06-2014 07:37 AM
JeepFan95 I successfully upgraded last night...

Application - From 2.136 to 2.600
Gracenotes - From 4118 to 5411

Are there any significant differences that are worthy to mention?
08-05-2014 12:23 PM
JeepFan95
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post
Just to add, the ISO file is an image file. After you burn the DVD ( I use a DVD-R blank disk), it should contain a collection of directories and files. It should not contain simply a copy of the single ISO file.

I have a LG drive and with that, LG's ISO image burning software. I can simply double click on the ISO file name, and the correct image burning program starts up. That's probably true (simply double clicking on the file name) for most image burning programs.
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Originally Posted by schirmyver View Post
You can find out what version you have by going into the system information screen on your radio. Look up a few posts for an example.

You will see the Application version and Gracenotes version.

The Application SW is basically the operating system where the Gracenotes is simply the database of album art/information.

To update you need to find the appropriate files. As others have mentioned there is a member on a different forum who makes all of the files available for download. Search for "sox rhr update", the first search result will take you to a different forum where you can find the link.

Be sure to only use files for RHR. You will have to download both the application and gracenotes ISO images and burn to a DVD. Each one will need its own DVD. The files are very big so be sure to check the properties on both the server and your file to make sure they are EXACTLY the same size. It typically takes me a few attempts at downloading. Then use your favorite image burning software to burn the disk. I just use the built-in burner on Win7 but others have had issues. Just be sure to do the verify after burn to make sure it was 100% successful.

There are some people who have been able to use USB drives, but from what I have read it is not as reliable and I like to keep the DVDs around just in case.

Once you have the disks, turn on the Jeep and pop the disk in. After a little while the stereo will read the disk and ask if you want to update. Follow the prompts and then be prepared to wait 20-30 minutes per update.

NOTE: This is what I have done and it works for me. I take no responsibility in your actions/results. If you are worried take it to your dealer and complain about some feature/bug/issue you have and they can update it as well. My experience is that they are typically 1-2 versions behind.

Also, neither of these updates will update your navigation maps, POI's, etc. That is a separate update that is tied to your VIN so must be purchased for ~$150 from Navtech.
Thank you both very much for the awesome info!

Great appreciated!
08-05-2014 11:13 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by schirmyver View Post
You will have to download both the application and gracenotes ISO images and burn to a DVD. Each one will need its own DVD. The files are very big so be sure to check the properties on both the server and your file to make sure they are EXACTLY the same size. It typically takes me a few attempts at downloading. Then use your favorite image burning software to burn the disk. I just use the built-in burner on Win7 but others have had issues. Just be sure to do the verify after burn to make sure it was 100% successful.
Just to add, the ISO file is an image file. After you burn the DVD ( I use a DVD-R blank disk), it should contain a collection of directories and files. It should not contain simply a copy of the single ISO file.

I have a LG drive and with that, LG's ISO image burning software. I can simply double click on the ISO file name, and the correct image burning program starts up. That's probably true (simply double clicking on the file name) for most image burning programs.
08-05-2014 11:06 AM
schirmyver You can find out what version you have by going into the system information screen on your radio. Look up a few posts for an example.

You will see the Application version and Gracenotes version.

The Application SW is basically the operating system where the Gracenotes is simply the database of album art/information.

To update you need to find the appropriate files. As others have mentioned there is a member on a different forum who makes all of the files available for download. Search for "sox rhr update", the first search result will take you to a different forum where you can find the link.

Be sure to only use files for RHR. You will have to download both the application and gracenotes ISO images and burn to a DVD. Each one will need its own DVD. The files are very big so be sure to check the properties on both the server and your file to make sure they are EXACTLY the same size. It typically takes me a few attempts at downloading. Then use your favorite image burning software to burn the disk. I just use the built-in burner on Win7 but others have had issues. Just be sure to do the verify after burn to make sure it was 100% successful.

There are some people who have been able to use USB drives, but from what I have read it is not as reliable and I like to keep the DVDs around just in case.

Once you have the disks, turn on the Jeep and pop the disk in. After a little while the stereo will read the disk and ask if you want to update. Follow the prompts and then be prepared to wait 20-30 minutes per update.

NOTE: This is what I have done and it works for me. I take no responsibility in your actions/results. If you are worried take it to your dealer and complain about some feature/bug/issue you have and they can update it as well. My experience is that they are typically 1-2 versions behind.

Also, neither of these updates will update your navigation maps, POI's, etc. That is a separate update that is tied to your VIN so must be purchased for ~$150 from Navtech.
08-04-2014 02:46 PM
JeepFan95 I'm new to all this updating. How does one find out what version they are on and how do you go about updating to the current version? Is there a tutorial, video, or guide?
08-04-2014 02:36 PM
schirmyver
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post
I just did the firmware update. All went smoothly and was easy.

I went from firmware from 2.136 to 2.600.

However, my Gracenotes stayed at 4118. Is Gracenotes a separate update from the firmware, and I need to burn a separate DVD-R?
Yes it is a separate download,DVD to burn and install. Just be sure to get the RHR Gracenotes update. This was a pretty big update for me, much more album are showed up and the generic genre art was updated as well.
08-04-2014 02:17 PM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by schirmyver View Post
Ignore the 5415 Gracenotes update, that is for RHW. The 5411 is the latest for RHR.
I just did the firmware update. All went smoothly and was easy.

I went from firmware from 2.136 to 2.600.

However, my Gracenotes stayed at 4118. Is Gracenotes a separate update from the firmware, and I need to burn a separate DVD-R?
08-03-2014 09:54 PM
schirmyver Ignore the 5415 Gracenotes update, that is for RHW. The 5411 is the latest for RHR.
08-03-2014 04:36 PM
schirmyver Just updated to 2.600 from Sox's website - I'll update with any improvements I find. The update completed without any issues.

There is also a Gracenotes update from my last update 5411 -> 5414 that I am currently downloading.
08-02-2014 07:15 AM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by jwilson2598 View Post
2.600 is the latest software, and 5411 is the latest Gracenotes. Both of those you can download for free and do yourself.
I have 2.136 and 4118. The last time I checked, it told me there were no updates for my vehicle. Is there somewhere else to get the update downloads?
08-02-2014 06:37 AM
jwilson2598 2.600 is the latest software, and 5411 is the latest Gracenotes. Both of those you can download for free and do yourself.

Unfortunately the maps require an activation code that is VIN based, so there really isn't a way around paying for them.
07-28-2014 04:43 PM
1quick1
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Originally Posted by Snake_Eyes View Post
Can someone confirm what the latest software version number is and what the latest gracenotes version number is?

I see 2.6.0.0 and 5411 (respectively) on the MyGIG site, but my installed is 2.1.8.4 (I think) and of course the dealer says I'm on the latest.

Thanks
Will the dealer update the maps? I really hate the idea of buying $150 map update through Navteq when the damn Garmin Nuvi 40LM I've used just fine for the last 3 years was $120 and includes lifetime map updates.

My version appears to be very old.

07-28-2014 03:16 PM
Snake_Eyes Can someone confirm what the latest software version number is and what the latest gracenotes version number is?

I see 2.6.0.0 and 5411 (respectively) on the MyGIG site, but my installed is 2.1.8.4 (I think) and of course the dealer says I'm on the latest.

Thanks
07-28-2014 10:03 AM
wnbamiamisol Tony - Thanks for the reply. Who knows? I just made the 37 mile drive to Miami again and dropped the JKRX. Have a rental Ford Chrysler is paying for. Told them I don't want the JKRX returned until the problem is solved.
I have my fingers crossed they won't tear up my dash and cause another problem.

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Originally Posted by Tonyvasconi View Post
Bummer :-(. Thanks for the feedback. Although I'm sure they checked, did those techs check the switch on the right side steering column ... Maybe ?.....
07-27-2014 11:37 AM
Tonyvasconi
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Originally Posted by Tonyvasconi View Post
Bummer :-(. Thanks for the feedback. Although I'm sure they checked, did those techs check the switch on the right side steering column ... Maybe ?.....
Oops I meant to say left side
07-27-2014 12:45 AM
Tonyvasconi
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Originally Posted by wnbamiamisol View Post
Am wondering if anyone else has this issue. My Voice Recognition stopped working. Took my '14 JKRX to the dealership and spent 3 1/3 hours waiting for them to diagnose the problem. They called Chrysler who authorized replacing the 730n and the Microphone. Today, I returned to the dealer and waited another 2 hours for them to replace the 730n. It did NOT solve the problem. I will be heading back to the dealer Monday and leaving my JKRX. Anyone else have an issue with the VR on their 730n? All suggestions appreciated (except being told get a 430).
Bummer :-(. Thanks for the feedback. Although I'm sure they checked, did those techs check the switch on the right side steering column ... Maybe ?.....
07-26-2014 09:11 PM
tomthbomb
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Originally Posted by ndrugby View Post
Has anyone had an issue where not all your contacts sync to the address book? Mine seem to stop at the letter M. I've tried removing and syncing again. I'm using an iPhone 5c.

Thanks
Mine never sync'd on my Droid 2, RAZR MAXX or my brand new Galaxy S5. It shows the phone book syncing from time to time (no rhyme or reason, just about once a week) but it never works.
07-26-2014 12:27 PM
wnbamiamisol Am wondering if anyone else has this issue. My Voice Recognition stopped working. Took my '14 JKRX to the dealership and spent 3 1/3 hours waiting for them to diagnose the problem. They called Chrysler who authorized replacing the 730n and the Microphone. Today, I returned to the dealer and waited another 2 hours for them to replace the 730n. It did NOT solve the problem. I will be heading back to the dealer Monday and leaving my JKRX.
Anyone else have an issue with the VR on their 730n?
All suggestions appreciated (except being told get a 430).
07-22-2014 02:56 PM
ndrugby Has anyone had an issue where not all your contacts sync to the address book? Mine seem to stop at the letter M. I've tried removing and syncing again. I'm using an iPhone 5c.

Thanks
07-22-2014 02:13 PM
ndrugby
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Originally Posted by AUskier View Post
I've kept up with this thread, but I doubt I've read every post.... Anyway I was wondering if anyone has had a touchscreen malfunction. My touchscreen is "clicking" or "touching" buttons without being touched. It started happening very rarely a couple of months ago but has gotten progressively worse. Yesterday it was almost unusable.

Maybe I'm cleaning it wrong? I just use a damp microfiber cloth.

I guess I'm going to take it to the dealer but I wanted to see if anyone had any experience with this.
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Originally Posted by Tonyvasconi View Post
Did you solve your issue ... I also am having trouble with soft-keys on 6.5-inch touch screen for uconnect 730N/RHR. They do not respond to "touch" and/or they invoke without "touch", i.e. a radio preset with change the channel, or the Navigation system will ask for "press" to find map location, or OK button with turn on/off.
Any DIY fix, like you I want to avoid going into the dealer and get upsold to a new radio.

Thanks
T---
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Originally Posted by AUskier View Post
It definitely seems worse when the radio is dusty. But still happens some even with a clean screen. I can also see imperfections (pealing?) in what looks like a screen coating in the places I push the onscreen buttons a lot.

I like having an in vehicle navigation solution, but I'm about done with this unit. I haven't taken it in because of a crazy busy schedule but I'll update here when I do to see what they say.
Did you guys ever resolve this? I'm having the same issue. I had some bad peeling of a screen film as well. Eventually it got bad enough that I removed the rest. I wonder if that is the problem. But it's driving me nuts. Just clicking soft buttons randomly all over the place.

I wonder if swapping out just the LCD screen would fix it? They can be bought and should be fairly straight forward to replace.
07-21-2014 09:24 AM
1quick1
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Originally Posted by jwilson2598 View Post
I just did mine, they are VIN locked. They require a code that you get when you buy it and is tied to the VIN.
Wow.

Thanks for the info.

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Originally Posted by tomthbomb View Post
I got the notice for my 2012 this week. Can't imagine sending another $150 on this junk.
Me neither. I'm trying to find someone to trade me there 430N for my 730N. I am not a fan at all.
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