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02-26-2012 08:15 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by New2012JEEP
Thanks Jay, will look into that. I am having trouble trying to understand what exactly it does since you are adding 2 new holes for it.

I honestly think I have to adjust the steering that people talk about, but dont really want to bother with that lol. I have a few undercarriage Jobs for my Jeep shop here, let them handle an alignment and that stuff too.
It's very easy to do, described here.

http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-...-end-alignment.

I had no choice because my wheels were not straight. First attempt set off the ESP light. 2nd was perfect.

With our 2.5 I think that is all you need to do if not done.

Center your steering wheel and look at the jeep from the front. You should be able to tell if the tires are not pointed straight ahead.
02-26-2012 07:52 PM
New2012JEEP Thanks Jay, will look into that. I am having trouble trying to understand what exactly it does since you are adding 2 new holes for it.

I honestly think I have to adjust the steering that people talk about, but dont really want to bother with that lol. I have a few undercarriage Jobs for my Jeep shop here, let them handle an alignment and that stuff too.
02-26-2012 07:38 PM
SilverSport
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Say what?

Jeep never wondered after the lift.
My thoughts exactly.
02-26-2012 07:19 PM
jay-1 Dont know if this will help but I had this same problem. I have a 2011 JKU With a 4.5 inch long arm lift with 35,s and alot of other goodies far from stock would wander all over the place wind or no wind. I first upgraded the steering stabilizer to a fox with the reloction bracket helped a little but did'nt cure it totally next had the alignment checked every thing fine not the problem so I decided to put a EVO sector shaft brace on do to the flexing of the steering box on the frame do to the lift and large tires fixed no more wandering just drove home tonight on the interstate in 30 to 35 mile an hour winds drove perfect havent had a problem since. The fuel mileage in the wind know thats a whole nother story
02-26-2012 07:02 PM
JeeperJake When I was shopping for a used Wrangler for about a whole year, in driving many units I was interested in potentially purchasing, I was surprised to find about 1/2 of the lifted ones I drove, to have some degree from mild to severe, steering twitchyness.

A couple were even on the Jeep dealer lot. One 06 Rubi I otherwise really liked, other than the 4" lift, was it wouldn't stay on course driving down the highway. Plus it displayed what I've come to understand from threads here, what was the early stages of "Death Wobble".

My 08 Sahara with 18" stock rims, tracks absolutely straight with none of the issues described above.

Your Wranglers need some kind of repair, it looks like to me.
02-26-2012 04:57 PM
sandbaja twitchy...wandering....sounds like either a child with a disease or a beaten horse.
02-26-2012 02:52 PM
MudderNuker
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Originally Posted by courtney123 View Post
Jeeps are twitchy on the freeway. It's a combination of the short wheelbase, wide tires and high center of gravity.
That said, have your alignment checked any way. There's a big difference between twitchy and wandering.
Agree! How about a stronger steering damper? Or are those more like snake oil?
02-26-2012 02:41 PM
courtney123 Jeeps are twitchy on the freeway. It's a combination of the short wheelbase, wide tires and high center of gravity.
That said, have your alignment checked any way. There's a big difference between twitchy and wandering.
02-26-2012 02:40 PM
kjeeper10

Makes me wander
02-26-2012 02:39 PM
Phishe
Mine wanders too

My Jeep wanders all the time. I can't tell you how often I drive it and the next thing I know, I've driven somewhere off the beaten path just because I love driving it so much. Yep, my Jeep causes me to wander too...

Oh, wait, not what you meant?
02-26-2012 02:33 PM
MudderNuker
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Originally Posted by tjt94 View Post
So your Jeep never wonders as it wanders all over the world?
02-26-2012 02:20 PM
tjt94
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post

Jeep never wondered after the lift.
So your Jeep never wonders as it wanders all over the world?
02-26-2012 02:11 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by firehawk
hi, your jeep will wander until you put 1 or 2 k miles on it, it also depends if u have 17" factory wheels or rubi wheels. give it some time.
it should clear up.
Say what?

Jeep never wondered after the lift.
02-26-2012 02:05 PM
New2012JEEP Will do KJ, thanks guys. No, we have not adjusted anything since lift. Haven't driven too much since, but I do notice my steering wheel not centered. So trying not to drive around too much until I hit up Happy Trails Jeep Service.
02-26-2012 01:32 PM
chopperbobby wind
02-26-2012 01:16 PM
firehawk
jeep wander

hi, your jeep will wander until you put 1 or 2 k miles on it, it also depends if u have 17" factory wheels or rubi wheels. give it some time.
it should clear up.
02-26-2012 12:30 PM
themoneypit After my TF lift mine pulled right. I had the alignment checked and the toe on the RF tire was off. Strange that it was just the RF, but rolls straight now.
02-26-2012 12:29 PM
kjeeper10 Steering adjusted post lift?
02-26-2012 12:28 PM
sandbaja It shouldn't wander. Alignment or tires are out of adjustment.

That said, it ain't a sports car.
02-26-2012 12:16 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by New2012JEEP
Mine is lifted, didn't do it before. So I should say Mudders should need some further investigation.

I am going to stop by Jeep exclusive shop, and have them make sure everything is good underneath. I am guessing alignment, camber, and steering might be off. I had to slam on brakes really hard for some jackass cutting me off, and the Jeep veered hard right into the other lane, while I pretty much maintained a straight steering wheel. This happened friday, scared me enough to have it taken in tomorrow.
Let me know how your alignment checks out. I want to get some numbers myself Before I install the LCA's
02-26-2012 12:12 PM
MudderNuker
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Originally Posted by New2012JEEP View Post
Mine is lifted, didn't do it before. So I should say Mudders should need some further investigation.

I am going to stop by Jeep exclusive shop, and have them make sure everything is good underneath. I am guessing alignment, camber, and steering might be off. I had to slam on brakes really hard for some jackass cutting me off, and the Jeep veered hard right into the other lane, while I pretty much maintained a straight steering wheel. This happened friday, scared me enough to have it taken in tomorrow.
I taking it to the dealer to have it checked. Have your checked out sounds like a scary mishap.
02-26-2012 12:08 PM
New2012JEEP Mine is lifted, didn't do it before. So I should say Mudders should need some further investigation.

I am going to stop by Jeep exclusive shop, and have them make sure everything is good underneath. I am guessing alignment, camber, and steering might be off. I had to slam on brakes really hard for some jackass cutting me off, and the Jeep veered hard right into the other lane, while I pretty much maintained a straight steering wheel. This happened friday, scared me enough to have it taken in tomorrow.
02-26-2012 12:05 PM
MudderNuker This is my fourth Jeep but my first Wrangler. None of the other Jeep vehicles I owned had the problem. The vehicle is stock with the stock 18" wheel and tires. It could be a combination of all of the above.
02-26-2012 12:01 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by tjt94 View Post
It is a common trait of vehicles with wider tires, lots of space underneath, and tight steering. Check the alignment and tire pressure. It may also be attributed to the type of tire you have on the vehicle. Lots of variables. Remember, it is a Jeep, not a car.
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 View Post
Windy out?
Yup, any of these.
02-26-2012 11:52 AM
kjeeper10 Windy out?
02-26-2012 11:51 AM
tjt94 It is a common trait of vehicles with wider tires, lots of space underneath, and tight steering. Check the alignment and tire pressure. It may also be attributed to the type of tire you have on the vehicle. Lots of variables. Remember, it is a Jeep, not a car.
02-26-2012 11:51 AM
MudderNuker
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
Is it lifted?

Could be your caster, which is the angle of your steering as viewed from the side. To get it set properly, you'll need front lower adjustable control arms (if caster is indeed your issue). You want your caster to be on the + end of the stock setting, around +5║ or so, depending on your lift.

Control arms
It is completely stock. Come think about it, I test drove another Jeep at the lot and it showed the same symptoms, but it pulled more to the right. I had forgotten about that. I remember commenting to the sales rep that it felt like it needed an alignment.
02-26-2012 11:43 AM
MudderNuker On any road. Level back roads or the highway.
02-26-2012 11:36 AM
kbwwolf If it's not lifted then I'd check alignment first, then work from there.
02-26-2012 11:34 AM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by MudderNuker View Post
I used the search tool but I couldn't find anything conclusive to help me. I am not sure if my problem is unique to my 2012 Unlimited Sahara. My Jeep keeps wandering when driven. It's somewhat annoying to constantly steer to correct the constant wander. Is there anything I can do, maybe a beefier steering damper? I would like to be able to drive in a straight line without constant steering input. Thanks!
Is it lifted?

Could be your caster, which is the angle of your steering as viewed from the side. To get it set properly, you'll need front lower adjustable control arms (if caster is indeed your issue). You want your caster to be on the + end of the stock setting, around +5║ or so, depending on your lift.

Control arms
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