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03-02-2012 10:28 AM
2003x
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Originally Posted by crocker_dave
thanks for all the info guys! I ended up getting a pair of KC 100w 6" Apollo Pro, long range. I ended up deciding on the windshield mounts like BeerMan and blue6tj have. I noticed that the wiring is run a bit differently on ya'lls TJs...blue6tj, did you drill holes or run it through the doorjam somehow?
and BeerMan, thanks for the help...i'll be sending you a PM for those directions
The Apollos are nice lights.
03-01-2012 02:54 PM
crocker_dave thanks for all the info guys! I ended up getting a pair of KC 100w 6" Apollo Pro, long range. I ended up deciding on the windshield mounts like BeerMan and blue6tj have. I noticed that the wiring is run a bit differently on ya'lls TJs...blue6tj, did you drill holes or run it through the doorjam somehow?
and BeerMan, thanks for the help...i'll be sending you a PM for those directions
02-28-2012 06:57 PM
2003x I run KC 100W 6" Daylighters on my windshield pillar and front bumper. They are insane bright. I also just picked up a pair of KC's new 55W 5" Apollo Driving Lights, mounted them onto the winch, and they are awesome. They throw just enough extra light with the headlights. I highly recommend the Apollo Series. Here are some pics;
02-28-2012 05:49 PM
WsRub04
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford
My recommendation for offroad lights is to put them down on the bumper. Windshield mounted lights, no matter how cool they look, create enormous glare at night... especially across a dust covered windshield and/or if there is dust in the air.
I can attest to this. Have experience with cab mounted lights on tractors and self-propelled sprayers and spreaders (Think 66" tires). When dusty, you're almost blind inside. I've driven with lights off more than once, because I could see more with the blinking hazard lights than with the high dollar work lights.
02-28-2012 05:41 PM
Jason1348 U can not use 100 or 130 watt on the road no matter where they are mounted I have and several people we trail ride have got tickets for it
02-28-2012 05:23 PM
neverfastenough1
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Originally Posted by Wheel2Work View Post
Max height for aux lighting in Texas is 42 inches... You may have problems meeting that if your Jeep is lifted and you plan on windshield hinge mounts.
Yeah, that's federal regulation. Aux lights (driving lights) can not be more than 42 inches high or they can't be used on-road. Off-road lights can be where ever, but can't be used on-road. That is why most states require (don't know if it is federal) covers over off-road lights. Fog lights can be no more than 30 inches from the ground. Keep in mind there is also a minimum height. And yes windshield mounted lights are too high. You can use 4 lights (two headlights and two aux lights) at night as long as they meet the height requirements.
02-28-2012 01:13 AM
Wheel2Work Max height for aux lighting in Texas is 42 inches... You may have problems meeting that if your Jeep is lifted and you plan on windshield hinge mounts.
02-28-2012 12:03 AM
blue6tj I love mine... I'm adding the KC Hi Lites Hood Bar in a couple of week too (with 26 Series KC Long Range lights)... I can't wait!
02-27-2012 11:18 PM
user4574
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Originally Posted by BeerMan View Post
I know I am a "poser" with the KC covers, but in NC you have to have any light above your headlight level covered...
Oh? Hadn't heard that.
02-27-2012 09:48 PM
nightop I've got two Hella Black Magics on the front bumper and have been thinking about adding two windshield lights. I've got upgraded PIAA headlamps in place of the factory lights, so in combo with my Black Magics, I've got decent driving/distance lighting. Therefore, I'm thinking that the windshield lights should be wide angle flood lights so I can see the areas to the sides of the vehicle. However, based on the comments about the glare, I'm now second-guessing this decision. FWIW, I drive a dark blue TJ, so not sure how bad the glare would be but really would like to have wide angles on the windshield if possible.
02-27-2012 09:23 PM
Jason1348 I think if I was in desert where higher speeds were involved I whould put spots up but slow in the trees like I run in I rather see close
02-27-2012 09:16 PM
Jason1348 Im in Ohio and I like the fogs up not really using them for fog more of just a lot of light spread out close for the trails had spots up there for a while just like fogs better spots on bumper
02-27-2012 09:01 PM
neverfastenough1
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Originally Posted by Jason1348 View Post
Not a federal thing its a state thing
What state? And that is a good diagram off KC's website. It cleary shows the spread pattern of the driving and fog lights. They are both designed to light the road directly in front of the vehicle. You can see the two beams crossing the hood of that yellow Jeep. He might be happy with that, I know I wasn't, but just think how much happier he would be if they did not reflect off the hood. Why would you buy a light that is designed to light the ground directly in front of your vehicle and mount them on your windsheild when their are off road long range lights made for mounting high. KC only labels their long range lights as off-road only.
02-27-2012 08:29 PM
Jason1348 Not a federal thing its a state thing
02-27-2012 07:52 PM
neverfastenough1
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Originally Posted by Jason1348 View Post
U can use 55 wt fogs on road nor 130 wt all ready looked into it
Well, you learn something knew everyday. Here I thought the only federal regulation for fog lights was that they had to be mounted under 30 inches. Nonetheless, they are esigned to light the edges of the road and the road immediately in front of the vehicle.
02-27-2012 06:32 PM
LilYeller Heres a few pics I snapped: These are 130w Eagle Eye driving lights. 2 on the windshield and 2 on my front bumper. My weak azz headlights are on too but you will have no hope of seeing those lol. The 2 on the bumper are pointed downwards and thats the light you see on the ground, the ones on the windshield are pointed almost directly forward to illuminate the surroundings of the trail and to see whats far ahead.

Shows the "glare"


Here is the dust I was talking about:


Hope this helps you choose, dont let anyone talk you out of them if you want the lights. They are a great help on the trails here in Florida. Although I cant vouch for anywhere else.
02-27-2012 06:06 PM
LilYeller
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Originally Posted by h2obill View Post
I always like this picture for what each kind of light does


That being noted I actually went with driving lights on the windshield mounts. The only problem I have ever had was when I had kicked up alot of dust and sand and had to turn back the way I came. You could see every particle of dust in the air. Nothing that was too thick to see thru tho. And I have a Yellow Jeep and there is no glare from the lights. I will go take a pic and show in a bit.
02-27-2012 06:01 PM
Jason1348 U can use 55 wt fogs on road nor 130 wt all ready looked into it
02-27-2012 05:56 PM
neverfastenough1 You can use fog lights on the road, as long as they are mounted at a legal hight. Check out any of the manufactures sights. They will have the patterns of each light. Pick the one that looks like it is going to work in that application best. There is a big difference between looks and functionality. For looks just get what is cheapest, probably fog lights.
02-27-2012 05:51 PM
Jason1348 U can't use them on road any way and when off on trail works great they light up all around u
02-27-2012 05:49 PM
neverfastenough1
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Originally Posted by Jason1348 View Post
Mine are fog on windshield
Kinda defeats the purpose of fog lights. They don't have any range and they definately won't shine on the road.
02-27-2012 05:47 PM
neverfastenough1 Do not use driving lights or fog lights. They will have a wide pattern and will glare more on the hood. Use long range lights and you should be ok. I agree with Jerry though. Lights mounted to the bumper will be more beneficial. Not saying I wouldn't get some, but they aren't high on my list of priorities.
02-27-2012 05:38 PM
Jason1348 Mine are fog on windshield
02-27-2012 05:37 PM
Jason1348 I also have green jeep no glare but my white cj is horable glare not sure if its the color or mounts diff don't know I have the 9.99 Walmart lights love the great for the money and when u brake on its cheap
02-27-2012 05:34 PM
Wesboy I've never had any problems with glare on my Dark Green TJ.
Don't think I'd like to try it with a white TJ though.
I run long range (pencil beam) on the windshield.
02-27-2012 02:12 PM
BeerMan Jerry, I have read about tons of glare issues but I don't have any...oddly enough...maybe it's because my jeep is a dark color and usually dirty as hell... I dunno. I run my stock fog lights, head lights, and my "KC" lights at the same time out here in the boonies of NC.

Pics of mine...

02-27-2012 02:02 PM
Jerry Bransford My recommendation for offroad lights is to put them down on the bumper. Windshield mounted lights, no matter how cool they look, create enormous glare at night... especially across a dust covered windshield and/or if there is dust in the air.
02-27-2012 01:58 PM
BeerMan A while back there was a post on this forum talking about the differences between KC and knock off's/cheapies and some dude posted up a comparison of walmart knock off KC-style 6" long range lights for $60 versus KC 6" 130 watt Long Range.

I wound up buying the Wally world specials and would recommend them to anyone. I got some used KC covers for $10 on eBay to slap on them.

After a tree branch ripped my wires out of one and cracked the housing, I sure was glad I saved that money. Also, Autozone sells the replacement bulbs that fit mine perfectly for $5. I know I am a "poser" with the KC covers, but in NC you have to have any light above your headlight level covered...so shoot me..hahaa.

Lastly, when you are ready to do the drilling to mount these..message me. I will show you a 3 hole method and tell you the cheapest and cleanest way to do it (ie rubber grommets from Lowe's, wire conduit etc...) Good luck!
02-27-2012 09:32 AM
crocker_dave
Which lights for windshield mount (side)

HI
After seeing several pics of TJs I decided I needed some extra lighting. I really like the mount that uses the existing screws on the bottom corner/side of the windshield, and have decided on a set of KC brackets as those seem to be popular around here (good fit, etc). Anyhow, my question is what lights should I get? I was thinking of getting KC lights (I like the 6" Apollo Pro 100w), but when I looked at Quadratec I didn't know which type of bulb to get (driving or long range)?

Thanks!

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