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03-21-2008 09:33 PM
spanky
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Originally Posted by mrbigjeep View Post
just get a bottle jack (whether its TJ or a truck jack) and just use wood if you have too.

or you could just get a bottle jack at an auto parts store and use wood if you need it.
im thinking my best bet is to just go to an auto parts store and get a bottle jack, and more than likely use it with a nice piece of wood for added height.

but a question: is the stock jack in your TJ's a bottle jack or the scissors type?
03-21-2008 08:57 AM
mrbigjeep just get a bottle jack (whether its TJ or a truck jack) and just use wood if you have too.

or you could just get a bottle jack at an auto parts store and use wood if you need it.
03-20-2008 10:57 PM
spanky so my tj has a dana 60 rear and a dana 40 front. im not familiar with what a stock jeep wrangler came with in any, way, shape or form! im just barely learning mine.

in my particular situation, the rear mounts are only an inch at best below the tube. so yes, i wouldnt have to jack as high if i used that method, but it wouldnt gain much either. as for the front, its worse, the mounts are tube height or a little higher. so i would need to just go from the tube height.

i just bought this jeep and it didnt come with a jack. so i have no means of measuring what a stock jack will do. and no, i dont know anyone with a wrangler so i cant borrow theirs.

so back to the whole reason i started blabbing in this thread.....

BESIDES a hi-lift jack, what might be my options?
stock jack out of a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck ?
stock jack out of a tj and place a block of wood under it?
go to checker or pep boys or where ever and buy a bottle jack that might accommodate my needs ?

or..... ? ?? ? ?
03-20-2008 10:43 PM
spanky
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
I didn't mean to come off so harsh, I'm sorry for that. I don't jack from the tube itself, I jack from the shock mount or control arm mount, both are more than strong enough and reduce how high the jack must go by a couple inches.
its ok, it did come off harsh but no worries.
03-20-2008 02:01 PM
1BLKJP
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
I didn't mean to come off so harsh, I'm sorry for that. I don't jack from the tube itself, I jack from the shock mount or control arm mount, both are more than strong enough and reduce how high the jack must go by a couple inches.
I run my bottle jack off the actualy joint on my control arm and I have no problem getting my 35's off the ground. With all of the travel in my suspension I can max out my 48" Hi Lift and still not get a tire off the ground.
03-20-2008 01:56 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by spanky View Post
ok jerry, i measured from the bottom of the axle (nearest the tire) and strait to the ground. the measurement was just over 16" i rounded it up to 18" allowing about 2" for tire removal/replacement.

so if i dont need 18" of lift to get my tire off the ground then maybe you can be so kind to explain to me exactly what I need.
I didn't mean to come off so harsh, I'm sorry for that. I don't jack from the tube itself, I jack from the shock mount or control arm mount, both are more than strong enough and reduce how high the jack must go by a couple inches.
03-20-2008 08:28 AM
mrbigjeep
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Originally Posted by spanky View Post
does that hold true for 37" tires??
as long as the bottle jack has another inch of travel, then yes.

(the bottom of your axle is only an inch higher up than an axle with 35's.)
03-20-2008 01:07 AM
mr4x4 I use my factory jack to change a 35" tire and axles

(As you can see I didn't read any other posts just the first two)
03-20-2008 12:55 AM
spanky
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
The factory jack will lift a Jeep high enough to change a 35" tire, you don't need a Hi-Lift to change a Jeep's tires. Indeed, a Hi-Lift should only be considered as a last resort for tire changing duties.
does that hold true for 37" tires??
03-20-2008 12:42 AM
spanky
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
18"? What? Your axles are only 1" taller off the ground than mine are and my OE bottle jack is fine, you don't need 18" of lift to get your tire off the ground. How do you come up with 18"? Where are you jacking from? Hopefully not the tub or bumper, you should be jacking from under the axle.
ok jerry, i measured from the bottom of the axle (nearest the tire) and strait to the ground. the measurement was just over 16" i rounded it up to 18" allowing about 2" for tire removal/replacement.

so if i dont need 18" of lift to get my tire off the ground then maybe you can be so kind to explain to me exactly what I need.
03-20-2008 12:20 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by spanky View Post
ok i just measured, i need 18" to get my tires off the ground enough to change them. mind you this is on level ground.
18"? What? Your axles are only 1" taller off the ground than mine are and my OE bottle jack is fine, you don't need 18" of lift to get your tire off the ground. How do you come up with 18"? Where are you jacking from? Hopefully not the tub or bumper, you should be jacking from under the axle.
03-19-2008 10:30 PM
spanky something i just thought of... would a stock jack from a full size truck, like a ford F350 for instance, be something to look into? i wonder what the stealership would charge ya for a jack? also, wonder how much "lift" those jacks would do.

anyone here have a full size 3/4 or 1 ton truck?? and that also knows how high their stock jack on said vehicle goes up??
03-19-2008 11:33 AM
MOz For the record, I'll be the guy who keeps the high lift jack that everyone can borrow (just as long as I can borrow your bottle jack).
03-19-2008 09:48 AM
whiteyj A couple of 4x4 blocks as others have mentioned under the bottle jack shortens the distance to the axle and reduces the pumping required.
03-19-2008 02:21 AM
spanky ok i just measured, i need 18" to get my tires off the ground enough to change them. mind you this is on level ground.

i would love a bottle jack to do this, but the higher they seem to pump up, the larger the actual size of jack.
(yes im familiar with the adjustable heads) i dont want to be carrying a 60 lb jack everywhere i go. guess i can always buy a smaller sized one and carry some 4x4 with me, but is that ideal?

what does anyone recommend?
02-16-2008 12:11 AM
distortedtj
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Originally Posted by spanky View Post
ok i just bought a wrangler. it has no jack what so ever. the jeep has a 9" suspension lift and a 1" body lift with 37" tires. so is someone gonna tell me to not use a Hi Jack as my only jack? is there something safer to change a tire with the set up i listed? yes i know hi jacks are great and all, they do this that and the other, but for me buying ONE jack and ONE jack only to use where ever i may need it, trail, street, where ever... what would you recommend ?
get a good aftermarket bottle jack /// most aftermarket bottle jacks have an ajustable head that you can hieghten up to the axle before you jack



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02-15-2008 11:50 PM
spanky ok i just bought a wrangler. it has no jack what so ever. the jeep has a 9" suspension lift and a 1" body lift with 37" tires. so is someone gonna tell me to not use a Hi Jack as my only jack? is there something safer to change a tire with the set up i listed? yes i know hi jacks are great and all, they do this that and the other, but for me buying ONE jack and ONE jack only to use where ever i may need it, trail, street, where ever... what would you recommend ?
03-24-2007 07:41 PM
04moneypit I bought mine used, so I didn't have a factory jack, ie all I now carry is the high lift, but, I don't care to change tires with it, and If I can avoid it, I use my floor jack at home.
03-24-2007 07:35 PM
Rawkon gotcha thanks.

i only use mine when its on stable ground and balanced.
03-24-2007 11:27 AM
Jerry Bransford By the time you get your axle strapped to the frame so you can jack your TJ up, which I have done myself when using my Hi-Lift, I'll have my 35" tire off with the bottle jack.

Why are some people so stubborn about Hi-Lifts, insisting on using them even for changing tires?
03-24-2007 02:59 AM
Joe Dirt Use a strap to hold the axle to the frame and the highlift to jack it up. It works great everytime. You do it your way and I'll do in mine.
03-24-2007 12:17 AM
1BLKJP
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Originally Posted by rebelBullDawg325 View Post
agreed.... any of yall ever seen a hi-lift kick out from under somethin?
Yup
03-23-2007 09:19 PM
rich1014 I have a hi lift - BUT I also keep a few short pieces of 2X4 & 4X4 for whatever comes.
03-23-2007 08:52 PM
rebelBullDawg325 agreed.... any of yall ever seen a hi-lift kick out from under somethin?
03-23-2007 07:42 PM
bluvikng Jerry, is so very correct. A high lift, is a very dangerous instrument. It has a lot of uses, but is not that necessary. A good winch, and your basic lift, from factory, is far safer. If you need more lift, under your axle, carry a 6" long 4X4 to make up the difference. Way more safer. Good call, Jerry!!!!!!!!!!
03-23-2007 06:34 PM
1BLKJP I'm with Jerry on this one. If I can avoid using my hi-lift just to change a tire then I do. I have to crank it almost all of the way up to get the tire off the ground and then it's not very stable at all. The stock jack under a control arm on the axle works perfectly.

Don't get me wrong. That bad boy has a helluva lot of uses on the trail. We've used them for everything from springs, hi-centered, come alongs, handle as a tie rod sleeve, and countless others. I however just don't like to have it on the pavement with that jack being the only thing supporting it.
03-23-2007 05:43 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Rawkon View Post
why would you consider it last resort? Ive used mine too put my spring back in. worked great and fast
Re-read exactly what I said.
03-23-2007 05:20 PM
Unlimited
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
...... a Hi-Lift should only be considered as a last resort for tire changing duties.
The only place I can get a safe grab with my Hi-Lift is on my bumper or rock sliders. I would have to lift the body pretty high to get a wheel off the ground so it could be changed. And I doubt if I could do it without a spring falling out if I was on the trail with my sway bars disconnected.
03-23-2007 04:47 PM
Rawkon why would you consider it last resort? Ive used mine too put my spring back in. worked great and fast
03-23-2007 03:55 PM
Jerry Bransford The factory jack will lift a Jeep high enough to change a 35" tire, you don't need a Hi-Lift to change a Jeep's tires. Indeed, a Hi-Lift should only be considered as a last resort for tire changing duties.
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