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03-03-2012 07:24 PM
Phishe
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Originally Posted by DSmith1178 View Post
Sorry to keep bothering you!!! So you used the crossover for just the tweeter and NOT the woofer, correct? You hooked the woofer up right to the stock wiring and didnt run through the alpine crossover. Im used to component sets that have a crossover with one input and two ouputs (one output for woofer, one for tweeter). Thats whats confusing me about tying an aftermarket component set into a factory infinity amp. Your really helping me out because im going to be doing this pretty soon. Really glad to hear your happy with your sound!
Oh.....where did you mount the crossovers?

Dave
I did only use the crossover for the tweeter. I don't even know how you could use it for the woofer. Don't let me fool you, though. I'm not very audio knowledgeable. I was definitely feeling around in the dark for everything I've done so far. Don't think I'll be pulling a DIY when it comes to replacing the head unit, and especially the amp. But I felt like I could handle the speakers.
03-03-2012 07:21 PM
Phishe
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Originally Posted by Yella View Post
Except for that guy in the future that buys Phishe's traded in jeep while sitting at a red light is gonna look over at that tweeter and say "dammit, I didn't notice that before".

Gave it charactor and it sounds great; good job.
That is funny. Not sure I can ever see myself trading him in, though. Maybe someday, if I am feeling particularly crazy and generous, I'll give it to one of my boys in 15-20 years if I feel the itch to buy myself a new Wrangler.

Of course then one of my boys will look over and say, "Dammit, look at dad's hack job."

Thanks for the kind words, everyone. I definitely tend to stress over "adding character" to my Jeep. Of course I'm sure I should just get used to it; it IS a Jeep, after all.
03-03-2012 07:13 PM
Yella
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Originally Posted by New2012JEEP View Post
You would be the only one that ever notices, looks good to me
Except for that guy in the future that buys Phishe's traded in jeep while sitting at a red light is gonna look over at that tweeter and say "dammit, I didn't notice that before".

Gave it charactor and it sounds great; good job.
03-03-2012 05:28 PM
DSmith1178 Thats the way I know to hook up a standard component set, but if you hook it up that way in an infinity equipped vehicle you would be omitting the two high frequency tweeter channels on the 8 channel amp. Seems like you would be wasting the power that was going to the infinity tweeters. I dont know though. Thats why im on here looking for tips!!
03-03-2012 04:41 PM
desertgoose I mounted my crossovers on the center console on pass side and outside wall for driver side. You wanna run the stock 6.5" speaker wire to the crossover, then run from crossover to each speaker using the proper output terminals.

Its easiest referencing the wires from radio to see which color is positive or negative. (With aftermarket deck)
03-03-2012 01:28 PM
DSmith1178 Sorry to keep bothering you!!! So you used the crossover for just the tweeter and NOT the woofer, correct? You hooked the woofer up right to the stock wiring and didnt run through the alpine crossover. Im used to component sets that have a crossover with one input and two ouputs (one output for woofer, one for tweeter). Thats whats confusing me about tying an aftermarket component set into a factory infinity amp. Your really helping me out because im going to be doing this pretty soon. Really glad to hear your happy with your sound!
Oh.....where did you mount the crossovers?

Dave
03-03-2012 12:36 PM
Phishe
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Originally Posted by DSmith1178 View Post
So since you used the crosover, how did you wire it up? Did you use the stock woofer wires as your input into the crossover, then run seperate wires from the crossover to the alpine woofer and the tweeters?
If you look on the crossover, right near where the wires go into the module, you'll see that each wire is labeled. IIRC, one of them says "tweeter" and the other "input." The wire labeled tweeter installs easily into the Alpine tweeter because both have the same plugs on them. You literally just plug them into each other.

I then cut the plugs off of the wire labeled "input." I also clipped the wire harness off of the wire that was plugged into the stock tweeter and stripped some of the housing off of the wire to expose bare wire (do this for "input" wire attached to the crossover too). Using a wire connector, you attach the crossover wire labeled "input" to the wire that used to be plugged into the stock tweeter. Crimp the connector. Done.

EDIT:: Oh, I forgot to say, there's no way to know the polarity of the wires for either the crossover or the wire that was originally attached to the stock tweeter. For the "tweeter" wire on the crossover and the wire attached to the Apline tweeter, it's easy because there are male and female plugs. But for the "input" wire into the wire attached to the jeep, I just tried it both ways and used the combination that produced what sounded best.

Good luck.
03-03-2012 12:11 PM
DSmith1178
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Originally Posted by Phishe View Post
I used the crossovers and they sound great. Don't know if they'd sound better without the crossovers because I didn't even try it. Of course, I intend to upgrade my amp at some point. (Though I've got to give my wallet a rest. My wife has been patient, but I think she's losing it. )
So since you used the crosover, how did you wire it up? Did you use the stock woofer wires as your input into the crossover, then run seperate wires from the crossover to the alpine woofer and the tweeters?
03-03-2012 11:33 AM
Phishe
I used them.

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Originally Posted by DSmith1178 View Post
Did you use the alpine crossover that came with the components or just throw it away? Ive read conflicting opinions on whether or not the stock infinity amp crosses over the high frequencies internally. Thanks

Dave
I used the crossovers and they sound great. Don't know if they'd sound better without the crossovers because I didn't even try it. Of course, I intend to upgrade my amp at some point. (Though I've got to give my wallet a rest. My wife has been patient, but I think she's losing it. )
03-03-2012 11:28 AM
DSmith1178
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Originally Posted by Phishe View Post
I got them in last night. Boy was it a PITA. I ended up taking an exacto-knife and cutting a hole just large enough to shove the tweeters into the tombstones. You won't need to use the threaded ring on the back side if you cut the holes just the right size. Besides, I don't think you could fit the ring inside the tombstones anyway.

I was surprised how easily the exacto-knife cut through the plastic. Unfortunately, I made the same mistake on both sides: I cut too much out of the lower right and left corners of the tombstones. If you stare at the tweeters, you can see a very small gap between the tweeters and mounts. I'll go take a picture and post.

I'm pretty disappointed in my carelessness. It's not terribly noticeable, and unless you're staring right at the tweeters, you'd never know it, but still, I'm bummed.

Now, all that said, the speakers sound AWESOME. And all I've done is replace the speakers in the soundbar, dash, and tweeters. Still have the stock sub and I haven't replaced the amp or the head unit. Still, doing what I've done, plus poly-fil, and it's already a huge upgrade.

Did you use the alpine crossover that came with the components or just throw it away? Ive read conflicting opinions on whether or not the stock infinity amp crosses over the high frequencies internally. Thanks

Dave
03-03-2012 11:17 AM
RBURROWS Happy to see you got them in. Remember nothing is perefct so enjoy and try to forget your little mistakes
03-03-2012 11:16 AM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by New2012JEEP

You would be the only one that ever notices, looks good to me
Lol..,, thats for sure

Looks fine
03-03-2012 11:09 AM
New2012JEEP
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Originally Posted by Phishe

Here are some pics. Like I said, I'm pretty disappointed in how sloppy I ended up being. Bummer.
You would be the only one that ever notices, looks good to me
03-03-2012 11:05 AM
Phishe
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Originally Posted by Phishe

I got them in last night. Boy was it a PITA. I ended up taking an exacto-knife and cutting a hole just large enough to shove the tweeters into the tombstones. You won't need to use the threaded ring on the back side if you cut the holes just the right size. Besides, I don't think you could fit the ring inside the tombstones anyway.

I was surprised how easily the exacto-knife cut through the plastic. Unfortunately, I made the same mistake on both sides: I cut too much out of the lower right and left corners of the tombstones. If you stare at the tweeters, you can see a very small gap between the tweeters and mounts. I'll go take a picture and post.

I'm pretty disappointed in my carelessness. It's not terribly noticeable, and unless you're staring right at the tweeters, you'd never know it, but still, I'm bummed.

Now, all that said, the speakers sound AWESOME. And all I've done is replace the speakers in the soundbar, dash, and tweeters. Still have the stock sub and I haven't replaced the amp or the head unit. Still, doing what I've done, plus poly-fil, and it's already a huge upgrade.
Here are some pics. Like I said, I'm pretty disappointed in how sloppy I ended up being. Bummer.
03-03-2012 10:57 AM
Phishe
Got the Tweeters In

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Originally Posted by RBURROWS View Post
I also have the same speaker setup, have not installed them yet. Hope the tweeter doesn't create any install issues. In addition to the speakers I bought the PDX 5 amp, JL Audio wrangler sub. Going to try the stock headunit and replace if needed. Plan on installing in the next week or 2, if you still have issues I'll let you know how it goes.
I got them in last night. Boy was it a PITA. I ended up taking an exacto-knife and cutting a hole just large enough to shove the tweeters into the tombstones. You won't need to use the threaded ring on the back side if you cut the holes just the right size. Besides, I don't think you could fit the ring inside the tombstones anyway.

I was surprised how easily the exacto-knife cut through the plastic. Unfortunately, I made the same mistake on both sides: I cut too much out of the lower right and left corners of the tombstones. If you stare at the tweeters, you can see a very small gap between the tweeters and mounts. I'll go take a picture and post.

I'm pretty disappointed in my carelessness. It's not terribly noticeable, and unless you're staring right at the tweeters, you'd never know it, but still, I'm bummed.

Now, all that said, the speakers sound AWESOME. And all I've done is replace the speakers in the soundbar, dash, and tweeters. Still have the stock sub and I haven't replaced the amp or the head unit. Still, doing what I've done, plus poly-fil, and it's already a huge upgrade.
03-03-2012 10:08 AM
RBURROWS I also have the same speaker setup, have not installed them yet. Hope the tweeter doesn't create any install issues. In addition to the speakers I bought the PDX 5 amp, JL Audio wrangler sub. Going to try the stock headunit and replace if needed. Plan on installing in the next week or 2, if you still have issues I'll let you know how it goes.
03-01-2012 10:56 PM
Phishe
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Originally Posted by desertgoose View Post
Didn't you get them from Crutchfield or am I thinking of someone else? I'm sure it's either in install directions or you could call them. They also may have come with the clips that allow the tweeters to snap into place after trimming the hole the right size. The speaker manual should explain different mounting options also and use the best one for the scenario.
No, I didn't get them from Crutchfield, I just used that link to show what speakers I was talking about. I got them on Amazon at about 1/2 the regular price, so I'm sure not an authorized Alpine dealer.

The install instructions are pretty clear, they just don't contemplate the '12 Wrangler scenario.
03-01-2012 10:52 PM
desertgoose Didn't you get them from Crutchfield or am I thinking of someone else? I'm sure it's either in install directions or you could call them. They also may have come with the clips that allow the tweeters to snap into place after trimming the hole the right size. The speaker manual should explain different mounting options also and use the best one for the scenario.
03-01-2012 10:34 PM
Phishe
Desperate times?

I've been looking at my tweeters all night. (That's what she said?) Well, the more I'm thinking about it, the more I'm thinking that I'm going to have to simply cut a bigger hole into the tombstone, as others have already suggested. However, I've still been stumped about how I'm going to get the threaded ring inside of it to attach the tweeter. I think the best thing to do is simply going to be to increase the size of the hole, slide the tweeter in and glue it.

Am I being too hasty?
03-01-2012 09:40 PM
New2012JEEP
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Originally Posted by desertgoose View Post
I've used some star brackets I think they were called when mounting tweeters to door panels. You don't open the hole to get the ring in. There is a bolt about 8mm between the housing and windshield. You take the housing off to install the tweeter then put it back. Ring from the opening in bottom.
The housing on 2012's is part of the dash, they no longer come out. I couldnt see a way for me to hold a ring to it, so 2012's need a real true fit tweeter.
03-01-2012 08:34 PM
desertgoose
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Originally Posted by Phishe

Yeah, that's right. The problem lies in the fact that you have to get the threaded ring inside of the tombstone. Not sure how to do that. If I cut the hole big enough to the get the threaded ring in there, I think the hole will be too big for the tweeter.

Anyone know what to do with the other circular piece with the tabs on it?
I've used some star brackets I think they were called when mounting tweeters to door panels. You don't open the hole to get the ring in. There is a bolt about 8mm between the housing and windshield. You take the housing off to install the tweeter then put it back. Ring from the opening in bottom.
03-01-2012 08:04 PM
fishmd I like these a lot, just wondering about the tweeter fit. I thought I read somewhere that you have to trim out the opening some to make them fit. Would rather not do this if possible.
03-01-2012 07:50 PM
CaneJeep What about these
Polk Audio db6501 6-1/2" component speaker system — also fit 6-3/4" openings at Crutchfield.com
03-01-2012 07:46 PM
fishmd Anyone found any other tweeters that fit the space exactly? What is the size I should be looking for. I guess I could figure this out myself by taking the stock ones out and measuring, but thought someone here must know.
03-01-2012 07:07 PM
Phishe
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Originally Posted by desertgoose View Post
Looks like the (threaded?) ring screws onto the tweeter to hold it in place. Just need to trim/cut/grind/file opening so the tweeter slides in nice and snug and tighten the ring on the back so it doesn't pop out.
Yeah, that's right. The problem lies in the fact that you have to get the threaded ring inside of the tombstone. Not sure how to do that. If I cut the hole big enough to the get the threaded ring in there, I think the hole will be too big for the tweeter.

Anyone know what to do with the other circular piece with the tabs on it?
03-01-2012 05:35 PM
RedBones +1 Were did you get the hertz?
Thanks.
03-01-2012 05:01 PM
vacca foeda where'd you find the hertz?
03-01-2012 04:59 PM
tampaukfan The Hertz fit perfect, no trimming required....
Id use a Dremel and trim the housing, the Alpines should fit.
03-01-2012 03:44 PM
desertgoose Looks like the (threaded?) ring screws onto the tweeter to hold it in place. Just need to trim/cut/grind/file opening so the tweeter slides in nice and snug and tighten the ring on the back so it doesn't pop out.
03-01-2012 03:29 PM
Phishe Here's what I'm working with.
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