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04-02-2012 08:39 PM
Chrispy I liked too, it was a Hollywood movie... not a training film
04-02-2012 07:26 PM
JIMBOX I likedit-

It had my laptop init, well not mine, but same "VIPER" !

-GOOD FLICK

JIMBO
04-02-2012 07:19 PM
PJRNM I went with my wife also and really liked it. I like military movies and they don't make enough. Look at the bright side, you could have gone to a chick flick......
03-17-2012 09:50 PM
s14sh3r Some people can't watch military movies for the same reason I can't watch a prison movie. As a former CO, I can't enjoy the movie for seeing the blatantly stupid things that only a CO would notice
03-17-2012 09:37 PM
sonofabeach Hey...every war movie can't be as realistic as InGlourious Basterds.
03-15-2012 10:00 PM
DaisyCutter Just to clarify, I respect all military service members. Sometimes I wish I could send someone overseas an hour inside a room with a/c or a shower after going a week without. I serve my community locally, and I'm thankful I can enjoy a shower and a cold beer after stinking all day.

I was hoping for more from this movie. I was really excited. To quote Gus in Lonesome Dove, "If you want one thing too much, it's likely to be a disappointment.".

I'm not a SEAL. I've never killed another human. I have kicked in doors and fought armed suspects, I've cleared countless buildings. The aspect that makes reality so different from the movie is the stuff that goes wrong.

A good, fairly realistic war movie that is relatively unknown is "Bravo Two Zero". BTW, that is a true story, and IMO the SAS is just as professional as the SEALs. I own the book and the movie.
03-09-2012 10:03 PM
Coasttrash
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Originally Posted by armygreen View Post
disagree.

i'm guessing you own a jeep if you're on here,
i'm guessing you were told it had 4WD and could go places a sedan cannot. told this by marketing, ads, other people, etc.

what if you got your jeep home and found it only had 2WD? and got stuck trying to roll over a tall curb into a driveway? i think you'd be unhappy.

this movie was hyped realistic in the way they advertise it; it's a lie. i for one don't enjoy being lied to, and would want my money back.
Actually I was not told it had 4wd I knew it had 4wd since I saw front shaft axles etc... I knew by experince that it would not go anywhere like the ads say, while sedans can not (I know about the crown vic that roams Moab) otherwise we would all be riding in chargers and well crown vics.

Just as you stated you should not believe everything you see on tv...
03-09-2012 07:21 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by armygreen View Post
omg, HOLLA!

can i get a whoop whoop?
I actually met Danny Kaye before he died, he is the one on the right in the above pic. He was a big shareholder at one of my computer accounts (McDonnell Douglas before Boeing bought them) and he was signing in with the guard when I walked into the lobby. All I remember was he was a lot taller than I had imagined.
03-09-2012 06:29 PM
Dassquatch This:

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Originally Posted by Tdog02 View Post
Just agree to disagree on this one. I enjoyed the movie because I go to be entertained.

The most important aspect is being overlooked by you guys because of movie magic and average actors. There is a true link between the Mexican cartels and terrorism. Our borders are unprotected and we are vulnerable!

There are people who are trying to kill us because we don't worship according to their standards. This movie will not win an Oscar, but it was cool. And it exposed the link that most of the Feds and locals in border states have been trying to tell you for a while. Failing to secure our borders is dangerous !!!!!!!!!!!
It's true, the border sucks. Dangerous place, that Mexico. And just a couple hours south of me. :-[
03-09-2012 06:23 PM
Tdog02 Just agree to disagree on this one. I enjoyed the movie because I go to be entertained.

The most important aspect is being overlooked by you guys because of movie magic and average actors. There is a true link between the Mexican cartels and terrorism. Our borders are unprotected and we are vulnerable!

There are people who are trying to kill us because we don't worship according to their standards. This movie will not win an Oscar, but it was cool. And it exposed the link that most of the Feds and locals in border states have been trying to tell you for a while. Failing to secure our borders is dangerous !!!!!!!!!!!
03-09-2012 04:52 PM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by InvertChaos View Post
I can neither confirm nor deny that
I can...

Snipers are trained for the quick kill, and that USUALLY means clean, brainstem shots at short ranges. (And 200M is DEFINITELY short range)

More often than not, we'll take a headshot over a center mass shot, unless the circumstances REALLY require a center mass shot. Remember, we're trained to consistently hit a softball sized target at 1000M and BEYOND. WAY beyond.

As for dynamic targets...that's why we shoot mil-dot glass. Makes it almost too easy to hit a moving target...
03-09-2012 01:48 PM
InvertChaos
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Originally Posted by cavediverjc

Are you 100% sure of these statements?
I can neither confirm nor deny that
03-09-2012 08:58 AM
cavediverjc
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Originally Posted by InvertChaos View Post



No doubt they COULD, but snipers are trained to hit center mass where they have the highest chance of hitting their target.




It doesn't make logical sense to take a head shot though. If a kill is mission critical, they're going for center mass.

Are you 100% sure of these statements?
03-09-2012 06:16 AM
Dassquatch
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Originally Posted by armygreen View Post
omg, HOLLA!

can i get a whoop whoop?
Yessir, you may have a whoop whoop.
03-09-2012 12:57 AM
yjkid95 Ehhh I havent bothered to watch it yet...but then again the Navy keeps me busy (causing me to be a ghost here and barely getting stuff for my poor jeep). But how about that movie project X. That movie's plot was barely anything. To sum it up a few loser kids in highschool wanted to be cool kids. Dumby had the idea to have a party and put ads for it anywhere imaginable. 1500 hundred people come its a wild party a crazy guy they bought drugs from burns down the neighborhood. Partys over worlds worst hangover in the morning. Bam done now thats a horrible plot.
03-09-2012 12:48 AM
armygreen omg, HOLLA!

can i get a whoop whoop?
03-09-2012 12:37 AM
armygreen
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Originally Posted by Coasttrash View Post
Also about the whole realism its a movie made in hollywood. Its your fault for assuming that it was gonna be realistic.
disagree.

i'm guessing you own a jeep if you're on here,
i'm guessing you were told it had 4WD and could go places a sedan cannot. told this by marketing, ads, other people, etc.

what if you got your jeep home and found it only had 2WD? and got stuck trying to roll over a tall curb into a driveway? i think you'd be unhappy.

this movie was hyped realistic in the way they advertise it; it's a lie. i for one don't enjoy being lied to, and would want my money back.

as i noted, "private ryan", "platoon", and a few movies out there were notable for being closer to realistic than your average WWII movie featuring Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye (though i love those guys and those movies).


2nd point i already made is objective opinion of what's enjoyable;
i for one find the closer to realism - the more enjoyable - when it's a certain kind of movie (ie: a war movie about a current war and advertised as using "active SEALs").

i didn't expect star wars to be realistic, light sabers to be real items and wookies to be actual creatures that look like walking dogs but can fly a spaceship.

i didn't expect that Bing/Kaye movie to be realistic for war either.

i heard the hype about realism for platoon, and private ryan, before i saw those movies,
and i was not disappointed, i enjoyed them both.

i clearly would've felt ripped off and lied to if i'd blown $11 to see this valor turd, so i'm super happy someone ranted about it in such good detail.


and THIRDLY to all you OP-rant h8'ers: ranting like this is part of the fun of being on the internet or any community. when i visit a friend i encourage them to tell me how work's been, and i expect some "shthead mgr" rants, and like a good friend i sit and listen. if i bitched at them for ranting, i wouldn't be much of a friend and they'd probably not have me over. let someone speak their peace/piece(not sure which word there...), don't chastise them at every zig and zag for doing so -- that's what we're all here for -- for each other.

03-08-2012 09:44 PM
InvertChaos I thoroughly enjoyed your review and had a good laugh! I can save my money now.

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Originally Posted by danatkins
to the OP do you know any seals. I've talked with plenty of sharpshooters and no doubt in my mind that a well trained person with a sniper rifle could get a headshot at 200 yards on a running target ;-)
No doubt they COULD, but snipers are trained to hit center mass where they have the highest chance of hitting their target.

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Originally Posted by armygreen
AWESOME RANT DaisyC, thank you!
you've saved me money, time, and frustration.

i rant enough as it is with movie posters with the horrid "finger inside the trigger guard" as i try to teach everyone i know about actual gun safety.

retardation like this from an everyday action movie is unenjoyable enough,
but from this particular movie based on how they hyped it, is sad, wrong, offensive, and will probably help get some stupid kid killed someday.
Trigger discipline!!!

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Originally Posted by AustinYJ
To the OP ... I am by no means a qualified SEAL sniper but i can hit a running coyote at 200 yards in the head and a coyote is a much smaller target then a human. maybe you should watch some of the sniper videos proving amazing shots and base your statement on facts. You are far from ordinary if you get to be a sniper in any branch of the military.

It doesn't make logical sense to take a head shot though. If a kill is mission critical, they're going for center mass.
03-08-2012 09:39 PM
AustinYJ To the OP ... I am by no means a qualified SEAL sniper but i can hit a running coyote at 200 yards in the head and a coyote is a much smaller target then a human. maybe you should watch some of the sniper videos proving amazing shots and base your statement on facts. You are far from ordinary if you get to be a sniper in any branch of the military.
03-08-2012 09:10 PM
Coasttrash I liked the movie, I really liked the SWCC guys since they train about 20mins away from my house ha. Also about the whole realism its a movie made in hollywood. Its your fault for assuming that it was gonna be realistic.
03-07-2012 02:19 PM
LaTuFu I all but assumed it would be typical Hollywood glamorization.

I agree, it is a well timed recruiting poster movie. They usually are. "We were soldiers," "Saving Private Ryan" and many others had similar motives.

One reason for the Hollywood glamification that we're all overlooking: OpSec.

These guys are active duty. Did anyone really think they're going to give away the playbook?
03-07-2012 11:57 AM
Dassquatch I'm reminded of the day (during my active-duty days) that a bunch of my buddies and myself went to see that God-awful FBI bomb-finding movie.... I forget the name. We were heckling (sober, amazingly enough) the actors, laughing at tactical mistakes, that kind of mess. We went outside, were cursing up a storm, as we hadn't been off-base in a couple months. Making fun of every aspect of the movie.

Then a cop (this is when I started to figure out there was more to Texas than a bunch of backwards jack*sses and flatness) walks up, and quietly says: "Could you boys watch your language, there's children here."

So, we realized what we were acting like, and apologized to the cop and the surrounding families. The cop gave us a knowing look and asked: "Marines?"

We replied in the affirmative, and he chuckled, gave us a Semper Fi, and walked away.

Moral of the story?

If you know what you're looking at, it generally isn't an issue. I'm no specops guy, I actually was the POGiest of POGs: Intel. But, having worked with SEALs, SF, all that mess, they do things like that. It seems ridiculous, but they weren't gonna hype it up for some little POG punk like me. I was just a likable guy who wouldn't go making a big deal about it.

Can't speak to the sound effects, though. I only almost got shot once. In training.

Point being, you don't have to like it. But, for God's sake, just sit back and enjoy it.
03-07-2012 11:21 AM
Jerry Bransford I saw it Saturday with my wife and son and really enjoyed it. I must not be sophisticated enough to be able to find as much fault and be as critical of it as the OP is.

My son, who had actually been accepted for a contract with the SEALs after trying out at the SEAL base in Coronado for nearly two months before he had a major motorcycle accident last year that postponed everything, liked it too.

I don't understand the need to be so critical of a freaking movie. It was a movie about the SEALs and what some of their missions can be like, it was not supposed to be an artistic endeavor.
03-07-2012 10:50 AM
MuddyMO 64055 Movie was just ok for me... but I do suggest keeping a couple things in mind..

First, it is a movie
Second, it was stated as being INSPIRED by Seals... and not as depicted from the REAL LIFE EVENTS of Seals.
Third.... it is a movie

either way... opinions are just one of the great things about our country
03-07-2012 09:53 AM
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03-07-2012 01:40 AM
lovecheese When a military movie comes out... people automatically jump to the YOU ARE NOT A PATRIOT if they say the movie sucks. I will go see this movie to make my decision up myself.

Just because he didn't like it doesn't mean he's not a patriot. Hell, I dislike a lot of military movies and I'm in the military.
03-07-2012 01:32 AM
s3nt3nc3d
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Originally Posted by armygreen View Post
AWESOME RANT DaisyC, thank you!
you've saved me money, time, and frustration.

i rant enough as it is with movie posters with the horrid "finger inside the trigger guard" as i try to teach everyone i know about actual gun safety.

retardation like this from an everyday action movie is unenjoyable enough,
but from this particular movie based on how they hyped it, is sad, wrong, offensive, and will probably help get some stupid kid killed someday.

I agree...

I think some people are missing the OP's point thinking he's insulting the men and women of our military and that's not at all what he's getting at...he's insulting Hollywood for putting such a "movie spin" on the military which insults the military and as an effect is insulting to him. And while I have never been in the military, I do have many friends who are/have been...and I think seeing something like this marketed as being "realistic" or "something Navy SEALS do on a daily basis" would be quite insulting to them as well.

Bloopers in a movie really add up...and for something as realistic as this is supposed to be, you definitely don't want a lot of super noticeable bloopers or unrealistic action.
03-07-2012 12:18 AM
armygreen
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Originally Posted by klkb View Post
Thank you.

I suppose this is the same reason why real surgeons didn't watch ER, or real cops didn't watch NYPD Blue. It's entertainment, not a documentary. I think if you go into it expecting all kinds of realism then you're setting yourself up for great disappointment.
welp it's the moviemakers fault here based on how they marketed it.

george lucas never marketed star wars as remotely realistic,

this movie clearly is,
as was "Saving Private Ryan", and "Platoon",
and most people (viewers not professional reviewers) said both those movies did infact have a lot more realism than your average war movie. Same for "Black Hawk Down" if that's what it was named, i forget the actual movie name but you probably know the one i mean.

bottom line a movie is supposed to be enjoyed, and i for one simply don't enjoy fake-ish movies unless it's intended to be, like "Scary Movie", a spoof of horror films.

the orignal "Night of the Living Dead" was truly scary to me and a lot of people,
i'm convinced that has a lot to do with why it became such a classic still talked about today.

Have you ever seen the very first Bond movie? it has gritty fight scene with Sean Connery and some whitehaired German looking guy (looked like Rutger Hauer but long before his time), that movie and that fight scene were really enjoyable to watch -FOR- their realism and not bullsht you see in most fight scenes. it remains today a talked-about scene for those reasons, it's actually kind of ugly and violent like a real situation of grappling for your life, not Price Line Negotiator Judo Chops.

i'm glad this rant was posted and i read it, now i know that movie isn't worth my time. it was clearly marketed as "worth my time", the movie Platoon was certainly worth my time , as others i mention.

03-06-2012 11:56 PM
fan of fanboys
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Originally Posted by Wrangler06
wow, i actually read your whole review.. did you really notice all those tiny little things? did you even get the whole picture and meaning of the movie? i hate when people nit pick like that....if you could direct a movie better then why don't you do and do it?...i thought it was one of the best movies ive seen in a while...you dont think a navy seal could catch a 200lb man and lower him into the water like that? you dont think a seal sniper could drop a man with a headshot 200 yards away? id say they could...loved the movie..but then again i didnt pay 9.50..only paid 8
just like you i had to get my rant out ;]
To be fair, just bc someone thinks/believes a person did a bad job (this case directing) doesn't mean they believe they are better.

When Tom Brady has a bad game I may criticize but il under no illusion I woulda done better.
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