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05-05-2014 04:47 PM
suicideking
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Originally Posted by Anvil_14JKU_DJR View Post
@kbwwolf - good info. what are your thoughts on control arm geometry correction drop brackets ~$99 vs adjustable control arms ~$200+ ???
If you're not going to wheel it, the brackets are fine. If you are planning to wheel it, get control arms.

The brackets hang lower and get bent/damaged.
05-05-2014 04:38 PM
Anvil_14JKU_DJR
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
Gotcha.

If you wanna install a lift that fits your current setup, but is still flexible enough to allow you to run larger tires in the future, go with the 2.5" lift. No need to mess with aftermarket driveshafts with the 2.5, and it'll accommodate up to a 35" tire, if you decide to go that way later on.

Adjustable trackbars and control arms often aren't included with lifts that size, because they're not always necessary. The TB's simply recenter your axle IF it gets pushed outta whack when you install your lift. The adj CA's are for setting your Jeep's caster. No other reasons to get either one.

Best bet, if you do go with a 2.5" lift, is to install it, then drive the Jeep and see how it rides/handles. If your steering feels twitchy on the freeway, then your caster is probably less than it should be (~ +4║ - +6║), and you should add a pair of adjustable lower front control arms.

Your kit should come with springs, shocks, new sway bar end links and brake line relocation brackets. Some kits have new bump stops or extenders for existing bump stops. You don't need a new steering stabilizer unless your stock one is broken. The stocker is skinny, but it's just as good as most of the aftermarket ones. Don't waste your $$.

To run a 2.5" lift such as the TF with Bilstein 5100's (which is not listed on Northridge 4x4's site...you gotta call Dave and order it), you want wheels with backspacing around 4.5", or less. The smaller the #, the more your Jeep's wheels will stick out. Don't go too low, however, or it'll put unnecessary stress on your wheel bearings.

Since you've got a '12, if you buy new shocks with your kit you'll also need a TF exhaust spacer to give you more clearance between your stock driveshaft and the exhaust pipe crossover. Otherwise, the two will hit when you offroad, or when you disco your sway bar. The TF exhause spacer is around $50 and is simple to install.
@kbwwolf - good info. what are your thoughts on control arm geometry correction drop brackets ~$99 vs adjustable control arms ~$200+ ???
05-05-2014 04:27 PM
Anvil_14JKU_DJR good info. what are your thoughts on control arm geometry correction drop brackets ~$99 vs adjustable control arms ~$200+ ???
03-07-2012 09:46 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by clakebewije View Post
I called Northridge. The TF 2.5" with 5100s is $775 but since I mentioned the $750 price, he honored it. Thanks for the recommendation. I was going to get the lift with the TF shocks but wanted bilsteins and this price was better than what I had priced the straight TF setup.
The Bilsteins are far superior to the stock TF shocks. Sounds like you got in before they closed the door. Enjoy.
03-07-2012 07:59 PM
rwhinkson
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Originally Posted by pluke the 2 View Post
good idea. its always recommended to see what shes capable of doing.

and also, you can save yourself some cash by researching DIY mods.

my fenders are stock. all it took was ten minutes.

i like it....i think i might do that, see if i can save some wallett for something like bumpers....thanks!!
03-07-2012 07:47 PM
clakebewije
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Originally Posted by clakebewije

Thanks! will do it right now!
I called Northridge. The TF 2.5" with 5100s is $775 but since I mentioned the $750 price, he honored it. Thanks for the recommendation. I was going to get the lift with the TF shocks but wanted bilsteins and this price was better than what I had priced the straight TF setup.
03-07-2012 06:38 PM
agenbro 3" TF coil lift, $762, Bilstein 5100s $340 and JKS front Adjustable Track bar $180. All to fit my 315/75 16 GY MTRs on Mickey Thomson Classic II rims $1100... Cant wait to see how it handles the Jersey elements....
03-07-2012 06:05 PM
JkJared
Quote:
Originally Posted by pluke the 2

Original Poster,

Do yourself a favor and DO NOT listen to anyone who has or advises:

A. BDS Lift kit

B. Replacing stock steering stabilizer with an aftermarket Steering Stabilizer

__________________________________________________ _____

I'm in Southern California. If you need any help putting on your suspension it should be done in the driveway in less then 12 hours.

Post up in the Local Section for help and we will flock to your assistance.
Why what do you know about that kit all I'm saying is its good for the price and the warranty.. Do yourself a favor and NOT belittle my opinion.
03-07-2012 05:09 PM
-JC- Thanks I noticed they were significantly more expensive, but wasn't sure what they did.
03-07-2012 05:04 PM
kjeeper10
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Originally Posted by -JC-
While we are on newb questions, what is the difference betweena long arm kit and a short arm kit and why are they better than the TF 2.5.
Extend your control arms for more articulation (flex) Some kits require welding of new brackets.
Long arms were more popular on the Tj.
The Jk will take a 35 with only 2.5.
A long arm suspension is not needed.


Big money $$$$$$ also
03-07-2012 04:48 PM
-JC- While we are on newb questions, what is the difference betweena long arm kit and a short arm kit and why are they better than the TF 2.5.
03-07-2012 04:17 PM
clakebewije
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
It's not offered as a package on their site. You need to call them on the phone. Dave (or somebody) will hook you up.
Thanks! will do it right now!
03-07-2012 04:13 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by clakebewije View Post
kbw,

I just checked out Northridge 4x4 and did not find the TF 2.5" with 5100 for $750. I had to build the package and the total is $812. Did I miss it prepackaged as a special deal?
Thanks in advance.
Clake
It's not offered as a package on their site. You need to call them on the phone. Dave (or somebody) will hook you up.
03-07-2012 04:07 PM
clakebewije
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Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
A good lift in the size you're looking for is the TeraFlex 2.5" lift with Bilstein 5100 shocks, $750 from Northridge 4x4.
kbw,

I just checked out Northridge 4x4 and did not find the TF 2.5" with 5100 for $750. I had to build the package and the total is $812. Did I miss it prepackaged as a special deal?
Thanks in advance.
Clake
03-07-2012 12:37 PM
pluke the 2
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Originally Posted by rwhinkson View Post
Sweet, thanks. I think i'm gonna leave it for now, maybe get done new fenders, at least till I get nacho to SoCal. Thanks!

good idea. its always recommended to see what shes capable of doing.

and also, you can save yourself some cash by researching DIY mods.

my fenders are stock. all it took was ten minutes.

03-07-2012 12:31 PM
rwhinkson Sweet, thanks. I think i'm gonna leave it for now, maybe get done new fenders, at least till I get nacho to SoCal. Thanks!
03-07-2012 12:24 PM
pluke the 2
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Originally Posted by MickeYJ View Post
I need assistance too :/

post up in the socal section and we'll get you done!
03-07-2012 12:08 PM
MickeYJ I need assistance too :/
03-07-2012 11:30 AM
pluke the 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by JkJared View Post
BDS kit and I'm very happy with it running 275/65/R18 I believe they are almost 33'. I'd upgrade your whimpy stock steering stabilizer this kit came with one. It took me a while to pick a kit but BDS offers the best bang for its buck at 750$ and a lifetime warranty by the manufacturer no BS. Jared-

Original Poster,

Do yourself a favor and DO NOT listen to anyone who has or advises:

A. BDS Lift kit

B. Replacing stock steering stabilizer with an aftermarket Steering Stabilizer

__________________________________________________ _____


I'm in Southern California. If you need any help putting on your suspension it should be done in the driveway in less then 12 hours.

Post up in the Local Section for help and we will flock to your assistance.
03-07-2012 08:52 AM
namasste With that tire/wheel combo, I honestly wouldn't lift it. If you really want clearance, go with flat fenders. That way, if you decided you want 35's for your next wheels, you'll already be able to clear them or at worst, add a small lift and clear them. Just my two cents but even with sway links disconnected, I doubt you'd rub your current setup in even some relatively tough wheeling.
03-07-2012 08:06 AM
kbwwolf
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwhinkson View Post
Brah Mobile
Gotcha.

If you wanna install a lift that fits your current setup, but is still flexible enough to allow you to run larger tires in the future, go with the 2.5" lift. No need to mess with aftermarket driveshafts with the 2.5, and it'll accommodate up to a 35" tire, if you decide to go that way later on.

Adjustable trackbars and control arms often aren't included with lifts that size, because they're not always necessary. The TB's simply recenter your axle IF it gets pushed outta whack when you install your lift. The adj CA's are for setting your Jeep's caster. No other reasons to get either one.

Best bet, if you do go with a 2.5" lift, is to install it, then drive the Jeep and see how it rides/handles. If your steering feels twitchy on the freeway, then your caster is probably less than it should be (~ +4║ - +6║), and you should add a pair of adjustable lower front control arms.

Your kit should come with springs, shocks, new sway bar end links and brake line relocation brackets. Some kits have new bump stops or extenders for existing bump stops. You don't need a new steering stabilizer unless your stock one is broken. The stocker is skinny, but it's just as good as most of the aftermarket ones. Don't waste your $$.

To run a 2.5" lift such as the TF with Bilstein 5100's (which is not listed on Northridge 4x4's site...you gotta call Dave and order it), you want wheels with backspacing around 4.5", or less. The smaller the #, the more your Jeep's wheels will stick out. Don't go too low, however, or it'll put unnecessary stress on your wheel bearings.

Since you've got a '12, if you buy new shocks with your kit you'll also need a TF exhaust spacer to give you more clearance between your stock driveshaft and the exhaust pipe crossover. Otherwise, the two will hit when you offroad, or when you disco your sway bar. The TF exhause spacer is around $50 and is simple to install.
03-07-2012 07:45 AM
rwhinkson Brah Mobile

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03-07-2012 07:08 AM
rwhinkson
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Originally Posted by suicideking View Post
Unless you're planning on getting larger tires, you probably don't want to go higher than 2.5" or it will give you the 'roller skate' look. Since your tires are on the smaller side, might want to do a 2" lift. I think Rubicon Express makes a 2" kit.

You can save money if you get shock adapters instead of shocks, but new shocks that are correct for your lift size will give you a better ride.

Btw, what tires did you get? All terrain? Are you sure they're 265-75-16?
the tires fit just fine with the stock suspension, i just want more...and the ability to put bigger tires on it too when its time for new ones. when i was asked last night what size, i literally went out and took a picture of the tire with my cell, so yeah, im sure thats the right size. when i bought tires, i was immediatlly looking to put about 5000 miles on it, so they are more of a street tire.

Quote:
Where in SoCal are u? I'm in LA
just left San Diego, and will be back in Azusa in 2 months or so
03-07-2012 05:49 AM
kjeeper10 2.5 TF bought with adapters.
Replaced with 5100's soon after

Like mentioned TF and RK's stock mod are great starter kits.

I've added TF's LCA's and ordered their front adj track bar. The kit uses a bracket for extending the rear.

Happy jeeping
03-07-2012 05:31 AM
Lowflier I'm looking into getting a Zone 3" lift for my '12 JKU. If you look in the special deals for members section you will see a few different vendor deals on the kit. There is even one with a video of what the install entails. Basically for ~$400 (Depending on which discounts you qualify for and who you go with) You get new Springs, Shocks, Rear Trackbar Brackets (to keep the rear end centered after the lift), Rear swaybar brackets (The old rears move to the front to compensate for the lift), new bumpstops and exhaust spacers since you need to move the exhaust slightly on the '12's to clear the front driveshaft on a lift. There is also some hardware to slightly move the brakelines to ensure you have enough slack at full extension.

That seems like everything you would want in a entry level lift kit. You could also potentially add an adjustable front trackbar to keep that more centered, but from what I've seen/read, the difference isn't worth bothering with on the front.
03-07-2012 01:48 AM
MickeYJ Where in SoCal are u? I'm in LA
03-07-2012 01:32 AM
Militaryman4455 You shouldnt need a lift at all to clear 31's... Stock Rubi tires are 32's.
03-07-2012 01:10 AM
suicideking Unless you're planning on getting larger tires, you probably don't want to go higher than 2.5" or it will give you the 'roller skate' look. Since your tires are on the smaller side, might want to do a 2" lift. I think Rubicon Express makes a 2" kit.

You can save money if you get shock adapters instead of shocks, but new shocks that are correct for your lift size will give you a better ride.

Btw, what tires did you get? All terrain? Are you sure they're 265-75-16?
03-06-2012 11:47 PM
rwhinkson im sure i will, thanks for the help....haoppy wheeling!
03-06-2012 11:42 PM
JkJared Hhah right on good luck hope you eventually find exactly what your looking for!
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