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03-13-2012 10:08 PM
desertgoose
Quote:
Originally Posted by aroseto

We're these Synergy LCAs also?
Yes, got their lca's and balljoints. The rest is teraflex.
03-13-2012 09:20 PM
aroseto
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertgoose
Final report on this thread. Installed the synergy balljoints Saturday, beat up the undercarriage Sunday and got my alignment done yesterday. Today I couldn't be happier with the way my jeep is handling, much better than stock for my preference.

My caster from synergy's recommended 23.5" was 7.3-7.4 deg. I had the shop adjust to 6.1-6.2 deg. My eyeball alignment in garage wasn't bad as the toe in was just a bit out of spec. (Double the target setting) Camber is on edge of spec but running on inside of tires which IMO will wear even on tires since outside seems to wear faster due to sharp turning. Best part of it all... the shop discounted my alignment job $20 to $60 because the lca's were so easy to adjust! They told me how much of a pita the other adj lca's are and that they charge more to adjust them. But for some reason discounted my job instead of charging normal price. That's it for now.
We're these Synergy LCAs also?
03-13-2012 11:45 AM
the Kolector
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertgoose View Post
Final report on this thread. Installed the synergy balljoints Saturday, beat up the undercarriage Sunday and got my alignment done yesterday. Today I couldn't be happier with the way my jeep is handling, much better than stock for my preference.

My caster from synergy's recommended 23.5" was 7.3-7.4 deg. I had the shop adjust to 6.1-6.2 deg. My eyeball alignment in garage wasn't bad as the toe in was just a bit out of spec. (Double the target setting) Camber is on edge of spec but running on inside of tires which IMO will wear even on tires since outside seems to wear faster due to sharp turning. Best part of it all... the shop discounted my alignment job $20 to $60 because the lca's were so easy to adjust! They told me how much of a pita the other adj lca's are and that they charge more to adjust them. But for some reason discounted my job instead of charging normal price. That's it for now.

Glad it rides better now, I can't believe the difference after replacing my Ball Joints and LCA's, night and day.
03-13-2012 11:26 AM
Imped You'd be REALLY impressed if you'd replace all the rubber bushings with Currie JJ's. That's when things get really awesome.
03-13-2012 11:10 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertgoose
Final report on this thread. Installed the synergy balljoints Saturday, beat up the undercarriage Sunday and got my alignment done yesterday. Today I couldn't be happier with the way my jeep is handling, much better than stock for my preference.

My caster from synergy's recommended 23.5" was 7.3-7.4 deg. I had the shop adjust to 6.1-6.2 deg. My eyeball alignment in garage wasn't bad as the toe in was just a bit out of spec. (Double the target setting) Camber is on edge of spec but running on inside of tires which IMO will wear even on tires since outside seems to wear faster due to sharp turning. Best part of it all... the shop discounted my alignment job $20 to $60 because the lca's were so easy to adjust! They told me how much of a pita the other adj lca's are and that they charge more to adjust them. But for some reason discounted my job instead of charging normal price. That's it for now.
03-13-2012 09:57 AM
desertgoose Final report on this thread. Installed the synergy balljoints Saturday, beat up the undercarriage Sunday and got my alignment done yesterday. Today I couldn't be happier with the way my jeep is handling, much better than stock for my preference.

My caster from synergy's recommended 23.5" was 7.3-7.4 deg. I had the shop adjust to 6.1-6.2 deg. My eyeball alignment in garage wasn't bad as the toe in was just a bit out of spec. (Double the target setting) Camber is on edge of spec but running on inside of tires which IMO will wear even on tires since outside seems to wear faster due to sharp turning. Best part of it all... the shop discounted my alignment job $20 to $60 because the lca's were so easy to adjust! They told me how much of a pita the other adj lca's are and that they charge more to adjust them. But for some reason discounted my job instead of charging normal price. That's it for now.
03-08-2012 09:01 PM
12JKUR
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Originally Posted by Barrie View Post
You have 15 minutes after you post to edit.
Ah!
03-08-2012 08:56 PM
12JKUR
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbwwolf View Post
When you install a lift, it can often move your axles off-center. If it's severe enough, you'll be able to tell simply by looking at your Jeep head- or rear-on. You can also measure the tires (in relation to the fenders) to see if one side sticks out farther than the other.

It's not a terrible thing...your Jeep will be fine with the axles slightly off center. Some people freak over it; some just don't like the way it looks. Regardless, the way to fix it is with an adjustable track bar.
OK, so with enough lift your axles can shift right to left.

How can adjustable LCA's fix that or was I reading that post wrong?

ETA: NM, adjustable trac bar, that makes sense.
03-08-2012 12:10 PM
kjeeper10 Me too lol

I did see that

They sell all that as a kit ..... But near $400
03-08-2012 12:07 PM
pkmcd99 ^^up there at gooses link. Thanks. God I hate my phone
03-08-2012 12:06 PM
pkmcd99 PN OGS161 is there part number.140 bucks. Sector shaft is also good investment.
03-08-2012 12:04 PM
desertgoose
Quote:
Originally Posted by pkmcd99

Your silly. Its front track bar frame mount. Its on there site, under front trac arms
You so silly Ken.
03-08-2012 12:04 PM
desertgoose http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/me...bar_Components
03-08-2012 12:04 PM
pkmcd99
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10

I think what you are taking about is for the rear.
Your silly. Its front track bar frame mount. Its on there site, under front trac arms
03-08-2012 12:01 PM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by pkmcd99
Im on my cell, that bracket could be it, the pic is microscopic on my phone go to www.jksmfg.com it doesnt just piggy back the oem mount. It braces to the frame using syeering box bolts etc... Doing so, almost eliminates flex there which contributes to hamdling issues etc. Cheap insurance my friend. JP mag does a jk build in aprils issue and installs one. Im getting one to be safe.
I think what you are taking about is for the rear.
03-08-2012 11:49 AM
pkmcd99 Im on my cell, that bracket could be it, the pic is microscopic on my phone go to www.jksmfg.com it doesnt just piggy back the oem mount. It braces to the frame using syeering box bolts etc... Doing so, almost eliminates flex there which contributes to hamdling issues etc. Cheap insurance my friend. JP mag does a jk build in aprils issue and installs one. Im getting one to be safe.
03-08-2012 11:38 AM
pkmcd99
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10

This ?

Looks like all it does is beef up the stock mount
Nope. JKS makes it. I believe you can only get it direct from their site. Its 3/8 steel I believe. Very beastly.
03-08-2012 11:33 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by pkmcd99

It obviously will further tighten the JKU front end also. Uses existing steering box bolts and trac arm bolt. Good quality braket. Does not relocate, just reinforces frame side front trac arm bracket
This ?

Looks like all it does is beef up the stock mount
03-08-2012 11:20 AM
pkmcd99
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10

Interesting. Thanks.

Good "2 door" point.

It does seem the 4 door does better with a small lift.

I just ordered a front adj. TB
Will check into that mount.. Whatever it is
It obviously will further tighten the JKU front end also. Uses existing steering box bolts and trac arm bolt. Good quality braket. Does not relocate, just reinforces frame side front trac arm bracket
03-08-2012 11:17 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Kolector
My Jeep drives so much nicer after installing the Synergy ball joints, front LCA's and front trackbar. Its nice to not have the wobble after hitting a bump in the road.
I still have a small wobble hitting bigger bumps. Hopefully the TB fixes that.
03-08-2012 11:15 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertgoose

Instructions on mine said 23.25" center of hole to other center. Because of the curve I went to the side that was easiest to get a good measurement. I was careful to make sure the Johnny joints were straight as that could affect the measurements a little.
Yep ... Ok

I bought mine from a member. They were at 23.25 and I liked the way the jeep handled. Now set to stock specs

Could think they are a cake to adjust
03-08-2012 11:14 AM
the Kolector My Jeep drives so much nicer after installing the Synergy ball joints, front LCA's and front trackbar. Its nice to not have the wobble after hitting a bump in the road.
03-08-2012 11:13 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by pkmcd99

Jks makes a front trac bar frameside bolt on reinforced mount to correct frame flex which occurs on 2 drs with 2 or more inches of lift. Its cheep, ive got friends that use it and it fixes most mystery/ death wobble beginings before they start or progress. You should check em out.
Interesting. Thanks.

Good "2 door" point.

It does seem the 4 door does better with a small lift.

I just ordered a front adj. TB
Will check into that mount.. Whatever it is
03-08-2012 11:04 AM
desertgoose
Quote:
Originally Posted by kjeeper10

What is the best way to measure?

The arms are curved. Does it matter witch side?

I've heard that TF's instructions say to set the drivers side 23 1/8 and passenger 23.
Instructions on mine said 23.25" center of hole to other center. Because of the curve I went to the side that was easiest to get a good measurement. I was careful to make sure the Johnny joints were straight as that could affect the measurements a little.
03-08-2012 11:02 AM
pkmcd99
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertgoose
TF 2.5". It wasn't horrible, but now drives better than stock and still need balljoints. Maybe not as noticeable with longer wheelbase on your JKU.
Jks makes a front trac bar frameside bolt on reinforced mount to correct frame flex which occurs on 2 drs with 2 or more inches of lift. Its cheep, ive got friends that use it and it fixes most mystery/ death wobble beginings before they start or progress. You should check em out.
03-08-2012 11:01 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by pkmcd99
What size lifts are you guys experiencing handling problems with? My tereflex 3" is sick. I enjoy it more then the stock handling. I installed it this past Sunday. Ive driven 400 miles on it and I love it.
Deff not "better then stock" the caster adj made it better IMO
03-08-2012 10:59 AM
kjeeper10
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertgoose
I have mine preset to 23.25" but easy to fine tune the caster without removing the bolts. Shouldn't have to pay extra when I get my alignment.
What is the best way to measure?

The arms are curved. Does it matter witch side?

I've heard that TF's instructions say to set the drivers side 23 1/8 and passenger 23.
03-08-2012 10:59 AM
desertgoose TF 2.5". It wasn't horrible, but now drives better than stock and still need balljoints. Maybe not as noticeable with longer wheelbase on your JKU.

I changed mine to fix the caster, I feel that with caster being off it puts more wear on balljoints and steering components.
03-08-2012 10:56 AM
pkmcd99 What size lifts are you guys experiencing handling problems with? My tereflex 3" is sick. I enjoy it more then the stock handling. I installed it this past Sunday. Ive driven 400 miles on it and I love it.
03-08-2012 10:51 AM
desertgoose I have mine preset to 23.25" but easy to fine tune the caster without removing the bolts. Shouldn't have to pay extra when I get my alignment.
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