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05-29-2014 09:14 AM
tx2whlr
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Originally Posted by thefrog View Post
The order of importance of which bits of armor to attach to my Jeep was determined by observing the first things that got whacked the first few times I went wheeling when my Jeep was stock. The very first things that got bashed RIGHT AWAY (and over and over again) were the front lower control arm mounts. Next up was the front diff. Next was the rear shock mounts and lower rear control arm mounts, then the rear diff. For me anyway, this is the order of importance: 1. Front control arm skids (Skid Row) 2. HD diff covers (Riddler) 3. Rear control arm skids with integrated shock mounts (Synergy) 4. Rear differential rock slider (AEV) 5. Oil pan (Rancho) 6. Evap skid (Rusty's Off Road) 7. Mopar Rubicon Rock Rails
The stuff with the least ground clearance.......Your list makes sense.
05-29-2014 07:21 AM
ESP Bringing back an old thread here but are the Barricade enhanced rock rails available yet to get? Still seeing pre-order only at most places. Anyone already have a set installed?
04-02-2013 05:11 AM
thefrog The order of importance of which bits of armor to attach to my Jeep was determined by observing the first things that got whacked the first few times I went wheeling when my Jeep was stock.

The very first things that got bashed RIGHT AWAY (and over and over again) were the front lower control arm mounts. Next up was the front diff. Next was the rear shock mounts and lower rear control arm mounts, then the rear diff.

For me anyway, this is the order of importance:

1. Front control arm skids (Skid Row)
2. HD diff covers (Riddler)
3. Rear control arm skids with integrated shock mounts (Synergy)

4. Rear differential rock slider (AEV)
5. Oil pan (Rancho)
6. Evap skid (Rusty's Off Road)
7. Mopar Rubicon Rock Rails
04-01-2013 06:34 PM
56CJ5-01WJ-09JKURUBICON
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Originally Posted by jonboy View Post
Not sure I understand this logic. If the 2012 JK and JKU both have the same engine and the Rubi package has the same 4.10 gear ratio, seems that the 4 dr would be more affected since the 4 dr skids would weigh more than the 2 dr.
Hello all. Newbie.
something else I don't see mentioned and must be considered is that the Unlimited 4 dr. weighs more than the 2 dr. off the lot and has the same engine rating etc.

My factory springs on the 09 Rub Unltd. collapsed on the way to The Racetrack in Death Valley. I was sitting on the bumpstops. Even after the tent and camp gear were unloaded. Irt was the first outing with both Fr. and Rear Rockhard 4X4 full width bumpers ,Warn Powerplant winch and ARB rooftop Tent plus camp gear,people,dogs.....
03-07-2013 09:21 AM
brighton ^^Great info, thanks! I don't encounter a lot of rocks in Florida but I'd like to be better prepared for some upcoming trips planned.
03-07-2013 08:11 AM
lee indy this is from my local board but here is my answer to this question


[quote author=wconner link=topic=2672.msg46146#msg46146 date=1362662707]
I am looking to armor my JK and I am not sure of all the armor pieces that I need to get. I know oil pan, dif skids, tranfer pan.... what else? :ty:
[/quote]

you dont want diff skids. new covers maybe but thats further down the list

is yours an auto?


first priority should be fixing things jeep screwed up.

1. evap relocate. the 12s^ come with a pot metal skid that will keep road debri from jacking it up but will not hold up to a rock. the best thing ive seen lately is the 50 dollar relocate kit that jeepswag is selling now. moves it above your rear axle.
2. oil pan / transmission / cross member. if you have an auto this is arguably more important. the manual has less exposed crap. the auto has a transmission cooler line and a plastic fulid pan so very important that they get skidded up.
im running the evo protek kit http://www.offroadevolution.com/stor...TEK_medium.jpg
i like the 3 piece design and the full coverage on the cross member. mine was beat up pretty bad. and would have been alot worse after this last trip.
other alternatives include the reasonably priced rockhard skids, purejeep, M.O,R,E. skids, JCR, and the more expensive kits like the river raider, polly performance, synergy. pick a budget and ill help you find the best skids in it.
3. lower control arms. get the weld in type i can tack them in for ya. very important

a LCA skid ties the two sides together and keeps this from happening. you should see the scars in mine that might have been trailer time for me had i not welded them up
4. diff covers. no need for skids they rob clearance. better covers will keep the lip from peeling open on a rock and leaking. solid is the cheapest set you can get and very good. next step up in price is riddler after that its all pocket book
5. after that replace things as they get mangled. the Tcase skid is pretty damn sout. but the gas tank skid isnt. most of the after market ones go around it. the one i want is the poly as its a full replacement. ive lost about a gallon of capacity from beating on mine. i think what i may do is pound it out and put a piece of plate over top of it

some where in there when you feel your getting a little more agressive off road you need to loose the plastic side steps and get something thats frame mounted. ask V and Michael about the damage those things will cause when they hit. i take them off now and craigslist them before they get damaged and put that money towards something that will take a hit. ie ACE rails JCR even the ****tybilt rails will stand up better than those. dont get the ones dale got tho. those damn things rob you of so much clearance its pointless.
at a minimum i would find some rubi rails or get the smittybilt rubi rail look alikes.
03-04-2013 07:08 AM
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12-17-2012 11:26 AM
hwy1rubi
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
--ROCKHARD®--the strongest-




I've also got some Poison Spyder®--

JIMBO

Do you know if the RockHard engine/tranny skid will work on a 2012 with the 3.6?
09-28-2012 01:14 PM
Powderburn Have any of yaw made ur own skids? Or under armor? I have a friend that works at a steel place and he said he could get me pretty much what ever i wanted. But i know more about women then i do welding.....nothing.
09-21-2012 03:53 PM
suicideking
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Originally Posted by Lowerumble View Post
So I am also a little lost in this skid kit debate. I am wanted to get fully protected before I start wheeling. I may stay stock height for a bit now and stock up on armor. I have Poison Spyder Brawlers Rockers on the way. I have an arctec truss kit waiting in the garage. So now I have been looking and TNT customs complete belly armor .Jeep Wrangler JK 4 Door Unlimited : Modular Bellypan : Skid Plate : T&T Customs

Does anyone have any feedback. Would would I sitll want or need out of this kit? If I am changing my own oil, one of those fumoto valves seem handy. Will those work with this kit? Can I add the poison spyder or river raider evap protection next with this or would it interfere?

What about LCA skids. It seems some waht to remount the shock location. It this wise to do before I know exactly what lift I will be running? What about the front protection for a rubi? Would a new bumper and matchin skid protect that area, or will I still want some else.?

Any help, I am a mess here!
I have the Evo 2012 3 piece skid set:
EVO: Bumper/Armor/Skids, EVO MFG(5) ProTeK Skid System for 2012 Jeep JK Wranglers

You can't beat the price, nobody even comes close. I also have their front LCA skids, Riddler front diff cover, PSC rear diff cover. The factory diff covers get easily peeled of by rocks. Seen it happen a few times.

Plus relocate the steering stabilizer before you break it. $30 or so for the relocation bracket, closer to $100 if you break it. It's one of the most common things to get smashed in it's factory location.

Do you have a 2012? If not, you need to skid the evap or relocate it.
09-20-2012 07:32 AM
Sueby
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowerumble View Post
So I am also a little lost in this skid kit debate. I am wanted to get fully protected before I start wheeling. I may stay stock height for a bit now and stock up on armor. I have Poison Spyder Brawlers Rockers on the way. I have an arctec truss kit waiting in the garage. So now I have been looking and TNT customs complete belly armor .Jeep Wrangler JK 4 Door Unlimited : Modular Bellypan : Skid Plate : T&T Customs

Does anyone have any feedback. Would would I sitll want or need out of this kit? If I am changing my own oil, one of those fumoto valves seem handy. Will those work with this kit? Can I add the poison spyder or river raider evap protection next with this or would it interfere?

What about LCA skids. It seems some waht to remount the shock location. It this wise to do before I know exactly what lift I will be running? What about the front protection for a rubi? Would a new bumper and matchin skid protect that area, or will I still want some else.?

Any help, I am a mess here!
What kind of wheeling are you doing? I have found that the rocks are killer on the LCA/Shock mounts & I'm skidding them when the new lift goes on. I'm not sure if I'm relocating the rear shocks, I'd like to, but I'm not sure how it will work with the new shocks so I might just do the weld on skids.

That kit looks sort of like the RR set I have. I doubt an evap skid would be a problem.
09-20-2012 05:54 AM
Baby Huey I have a 07 JKUX, Factory Skids on the gas tank and transfer case.
I drive logging roads, graveled, some dirt cat and skid roads mostly when off the pavement.
Occasionally there are big rocks and limbs in the road so I gotta keep my eyes open.
I recently installed a Poison Spider Evap. Skid . A good solid unit.
Next will be maybe a Oil pan skid , Front Diff. cover in case I hit a big rock in the road.
And Radiator tank Armor....
Stuff like big rocks and chunks of wood like to hide in the snow.....Get to day dreamin and cruising in the snow and WAM!! Must have hit a Rock or a piece of Fire Wood...
"BH"
09-20-2012 01:47 AM
Lowerumble So I am also a little lost in this skid kit debate. I am wanted to get fully protected before I start wheeling. I may stay stock height for a bit now and stock up on armor. I have Poison Spyder Brawlers Rockers on the way. I have an arctec truss kit waiting in the garage. So now I have been looking and TNT customs complete belly armor .Jeep Wrangler JK 4 Door Unlimited : Modular Bellypan : Skid Plate : T&T Customs

Does anyone have any feedback. Would would I sitll want or need out of this kit? If I am changing my own oil, one of those fumoto valves seem handy. Will those work with this kit? Can I add the poison spyder or river raider evap protection next with this or would it interfere?

What about LCA skids. It seems some waht to remount the shock location. It this wise to do before I know exactly what lift I will be running? What about the front protection for a rubi? Would a new bumper and matchin skid protect that area, or will I still want some else.?

Any help, I am a mess here!
08-08-2012 10:20 AM
kurtz265 I'd like to see some more lion armor please, as well as some more discussion of the pros/cons of pincer movements vs lionish breast shields. thanks! (refer to page 3 of thread for reference)
07-26-2012 12:36 AM
jonboy
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
If you go "HOG WILD", with the skids, the added weight (300/600lbs, it'll affect a 2dr more than a 4dr and then your diff. ratios gonna really count--
Not sure I understand this logic. If the 2012 JK and JKU both have the same engine and the Rubi package has the same 4.10 gear ratio, seems that the 4 dr would be more affected since the 4 dr skids would weigh more than the 2 dr.
04-18-2012 07:35 PM
JIMBOX If you go "HOG WILD", with the skids, the added weight (300/600lbs, it'll affect a 2dr more than a 4dr and then your diff. ratios gonna really count--

My JKUR weighs 5200lbs +, what I add for trips and my mileage is still ok, even towing my trailer, power on demand !!

JIMBO
04-13-2012 02:17 PM
MarineHawk
Quote:
Originally Posted by bo9roadking View Post
Nice setup. Have you considered drilling a hole in the front trackbar bracket on the axle to relocate your steering stabilizer above the tie rod? It will make is less vulnerable to rocks and other obstacles.
Attachment 103722
Thanks again for the advice. It's fixed now:



The rest of the skids also are done:





I decided to relocate, rather than skid, the EVAP:



Front LCA skids:



You can kind of see them from the front here right below the tie rod:



Rear LCA skids:

04-13-2012 10:34 AM
DrHolliday
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliRubicon
At river raider they offer a couple of options I have not run into before. "Also available with replaceable UHMW*(Ultra-high molecular weight)*Polyethylene panels specially designed for sliding over rocks." has anyone tried these? Seems like it should be lighter then metal. Any opinions? I don't do much rock crawling more of a expedition rig. Want some extra protection with as little whieght as possible. Also anyone tried alluminum vs steel?
Those skins bolt to the steel skids so it adds weight. Its like a non stick or plastic cutting board type material to help the steel skids slide over rocks.
04-13-2012 10:19 AM
steve31 Not to pull this thread too far off topic, but is armor one of those you get what you pay for things? I am looking at sliders and they run anywhere from $250-$800. I'm not doing real heavy off roading, but the sliders would help for what I am going to do. They I was planning to add just a couple of skid plates where needed based on this thread. I just want to do some light armor when when I do run trails with some rocks, I'll never crawl (I say that now). I just dont want to waste a ton of money on something I dont need, but at the same time dont want to go cheap and end up having to replace things first time I hit a rock.
04-13-2012 10:10 AM
JIMBOX If you have a 2dr (JK), then your total weight could mean something, but


Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliRubicon View Post
At river raider they offer a couple of options I have not run into before. "Also available with replaceable UHMW*(Ultra-high molecular weight)*Polyethylene panels specially designed for sliding over rocks." has anyone tried these? Seems like it should be lighter then metal. Any opinions? I don't do much rock crawling more of a expedition rig. Want some extra protection with as little whieght as possible. Also anyone tried alluminum vs steel?
If your driving a 4dr-(JKU), weight isn't very important, unless your saddled with 3.21 gears !

JIMBO !
04-13-2012 10:02 AM
CaliRubicon At river raider they offer a couple of options I have not run into before. "Also available with replaceable UHMW*(Ultra-high molecular weight)*Polyethylene panels specially designed for sliding over rocks." has anyone tried these? Seems like it should be lighter then metal. Any opinions? I don't do much rock crawling more of a expedition rig. Want some extra protection with as little whieght as possible. Also anyone tried alluminum vs steel?
03-30-2012 07:30 PM
Unlimited.Kev
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sueby

Would love it if you could let me know - I'm looking into this myself but am a tiny bit concerned about how much it weighs. Their website doesn't say specifically, but I know they have an aluminum option that I'd really rather not consider...

Just to get an idea - I do have a JK so I know it wont be the same.
I'll definitely let you know what they end up weighing.
03-30-2012 04:32 PM
Sueby
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unlimited.Kev

No, but it is due to ship today so it will probably be on the tracking info.
Would love it if you could let me know - I'm looking into this myself but am a tiny bit concerned about how much it weighs. Their website doesn't say specifically, but I know they have an aluminum option that I'd really rather not consider...

Just to get an idea - I do have a JK so I know it wont be the same.
03-30-2012 10:53 AM
Unlimited.Kev
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Originally Posted by Sueby View Post
Any idea what the weight is on this kit?
No, but it is due to ship today so it will probably be on the tracking info.
03-30-2012 07:57 AM
Sueby
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unlimited.Kev

Not everything but a good start. The set of 4 as shown in black powder coat is just over $1100 delivered.

www.riverraider.com
Any idea what the weight is on this kit?
03-19-2012 09:43 PM
Unlimited.Kev
Quote:
Originally Posted by IP0VV3R

Does that cover everything necessary? How much?
Not everything but a good start. The set of 4 as shown in black powder coat is just over $1100 delivered.

www.riverraider.com
03-19-2012 09:40 PM
IP0VV3R
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unlimited.Kev
Just ordered the JKU skid set from River Raiders!
Does that cover everything necessary? How much?
03-19-2012 09:15 PM
Unlimited.Kev Just ordered the JKU skid set from River Raiders!
03-12-2012 12:19 AM
MarineHawk
Quote:
Originally Posted by bo9roadking View Post
Nice setup. Have you considered drilling a hole in the front trackbar bracket on the axle to relocate your steering stabilizer above the tie rod? It will make is less vulnerable to rocks and other obstacles.
Attachment 103722
That's a good idea. I'll look into it.
03-10-2012 11:23 PM
Casotakar1229 great thread. I am a newb to off roading and this is helping a lot...just wish I knew more about the terminology and more about off-roading.
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