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03-24-2012 12:16 PM
cf1
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Originally Posted by Celtic View Post
cf1,

Glad you got it put back together. Not sure what you had to "wire", but there has to be something amiss if you have to go through that kind of aggravation.

There are several instruction manuals and videos that give very detailed write-ups, step-by-step guides with pictures and video and YouTube Videos showing how to put the Sunrider and full soft top open and closed, down and up in a no muss / no fuss manner. They are on Jeep.com or just Google them.

IMPORTANT: Some of the above will point out a situation where one of the side straps on the top can become twisted and / or wrapped around one of the pieces of the top's hardware, not allowing the top to raise fully in the normal fashion. You may want to familiarize yourself with that circumstance if you do not already know about it.

Have a good weekend!
i had to wire the clip to hold the pin in.. the problem is the clip over the passenger door that hold the pin in wont stay in.. the part the pin gos in has to much tension on it. to get the clip pin in i have to pull forward toward the windshield for the pin to go in then when i go to put the front top down the clip pin pops out there for i had to wire it (the clip)somethings out of align..
03-24-2012 12:32 AM
Celtic
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Originally Posted by cf1 View Post
thats what i did.... but i had to get the neighbor boy to help me pull on that back bar (by the door post) then clip the pin and wire it in because it kept poping out. all there is is a cable for this thing and its to tight and no adjustment that i can see.. but after the clip was in top latched no problem.. thanks everyone.
cf1,

Glad you got it put back together. Not sure what you had to "wire", but there has to be something amiss if you have to go through that kind of aggravation.

There are several instruction manuals and videos that give very detailed write-ups, step-by-step guides with pictures and video and YouTube Videos showing how to put the Sunrider and full soft top open and closed, down and up in a no muss / no fuss manner. They are on Jeep.com or just Google them.

IMPORTANT: Some of the above will point out a situation where one of the side straps on the top can become twisted and / or wrapped around one of the pieces of the top's hardware, not allowing the top to raise fully in the normal fashion. You may want to familiarize yourself with that circumstance if you do not already know about it.

Have a good weekend!
03-23-2012 10:50 PM
cf1
Quote:
Originally Posted by InfernoGirl View Post
Flop the whole top up, and clip the pins first, then proceed with the installation.
thats what i did.... but i had to get the neighbor boy to help me pull on that back bar (by the door post) then clip the pin and wire it in because it kept poping out. all there is is a cable for this thing and its to tight and no adjustment that i can see.. but after the clip was in top latched no problem.. thanks everyone.
03-23-2012 05:50 PM
jp2611
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Originally Posted by InfernoGirl View Post
Flop the whole top up, and clip the pins first, then proceed with the installation.
x2 as I mentioned last Sat or Sun ran into same issue......low and behold the passenger side had "come undone" removed everything and clipped little clips above the door surrounds first..and everything else went fine from there.
03-23-2012 05:44 PM
InfernoGirl Flop the whole top up, and clip the pins first, then proceed with the installation.
03-23-2012 04:52 PM
cf1
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Originally Posted by Celtic View Post
Ken,

I believe the latch has a spring to hold it in the closed / latched position. Like Daggo said, these latches should not be disengaged when using only the Sunrider.

If the pin on only the passenger side becomes disengaged during normal driving with the Sunrider either open or closed you might want to look for weak or missing spring (if one is supposed to be there, I have not looked at mine lately).

I would also take a look at the plastic upper door surround and make sure that it is installed properly and is tight. If one or both of the two large knurl knobs / bolts on top of it has loosened up, the door surround may be mis-aligned which could be causing your problem. Personally, I find that mine loosen up a bit every few weeks, so I just have gotten in the habit of reaching up there and re-tightening them.

Just trying to help you figure out the root cause of the problem. If this is the second complete top assembly, I think I would most likely rule that out. That is why I suggested the upper door surround.

Hang in there!
heres the problem yes the clip has a spring to it not much but some..it takes all i have to pull like hell to get the clip pin in.. by the time i get the top ready to latch the pin in the passenger door pops out. the pin in the drivers door stays in..and this is with the sail out and side windows out.the drivers side still wont latch at the header its real tight. there to much tension on this.. the knobs on the door surround are tight. where do you adjust the tension on this so the pins just pop in and the latches close freely?
03-23-2012 12:09 PM
Celtic
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Originally Posted by cf1 View Post
on mine it the pin on the passenger door that wont stay in.i have to litterly undo this whole top to get it back in and it pops back out before i can latch it. there has to be some kind of adjustment on this or they drilled the whole for the pins off center.. i have my latches tied down with straps so i can drive.. when i get time im going to see what i can do.. the dealers are useless.. keep me advised if you find a solution for yours.. ken
Ken,

I believe the latch has a spring to hold it in the closed / latched position. Like Daggo said, these latches should not be disengaged when using only the Sunrider.

If the pin on only the passenger side becomes disengaged during normal driving with the Sunrider either open or closed you might want to look for weak or missing spring (if one is supposed to be there, I have not looked at mine lately).

I would also take a look at the plastic upper door surround and make sure that it is installed properly and is tight. If one or both of the two large knurl knobs / bolts on top of it has loosened up, the door surround may be mis-aligned which could be causing your problem. Personally, I find that mine loosen up a bit every few weeks, so I just have gotten in the habit of reaching up there and re-tightening them.

Just trying to help you figure out the root cause of the problem. If this is the second complete top assembly, I think I would most likely rule that out. That is why I suggested the upper door surround.

Hang in there!
03-23-2012 11:20 AM
cf1
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Originally Posted by NavySportsDoc View Post
I'm been having lots of problems with the sunrider pins coming loose while driving; then you notice it when you go to close it, b/c the roof shifts backwards about 1/2 inch and won't close. ...PITA. I've taken it to the dealer about 3 times; they've tried some adjustments and also a new roof. I think the design is nice, but if the roof doesn't exactly fit just so, those pins are going to pop. Instead of just closing the sunrider in a few seconds (the way it was designed to do), you end up having to pull off the back and side panels from their bottom tracks, then lift the whole top/middle roof bar up...that moves the frame forward, then you can pop those pins back in the hole. Bad news. I'm taking mine back to the dealer AGAIN. They did fix & adjust the roof well the 2nd time, but then the back window was very tight and eventually the zipper tore. They had to replace the roof and now we're back to square one. The dealer and I are still trying to figure out a solution. Jeep will probably need to design a better pin system that holds better. I love the sunrider option, but until they re-design the pins, it's a PITA.
on mine it the pin on the passenger door that wont stay in.i have to litterly undo this whole top to get it back in and it pops back out before i can latch it. there has to be some kind of adjustment on this or they drilled the whole for the pins off center.. i have my latches tied down with straps so i can drive.. when i get time im going to see what i can do.. the dealers are useless.. keep me advised if you find a solution for yours.. ken
03-23-2012 10:29 AM
NavySportsDoc
sunrider top clips

I'm been having lots of problems with the sunrider pins coming loose while driving; then you notice it when you go to close it, b/c the roof shifts backwards about 1/2 inch and won't close. ...PITA. I've taken it to the dealer about 3 times; they've tried some adjustments and also a new roof. I think the design is nice, but if the roof doesn't exactly fit just so, those pins are going to pop. Instead of just closing the sunrider in a few seconds (the way it was designed to do), you end up having to pull off the back and side panels from their bottom tracks, then lift the whole top/middle roof bar up...that moves the frame forward, then you can pop those pins back in the hole. Bad news. I'm taking mine back to the dealer AGAIN. They did fix & adjust the roof well the 2nd time, but then the back window was very tight and eventually the zipper tore. They had to replace the roof and now we're back to square one. The dealer and I are still trying to figure out a solution. Jeep will probably need to design a better pin system that holds better. I love the sunrider option, but until they re-design the pins, it's a PITA.
03-18-2012 11:45 PM
cf1
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Originally Posted by daggo66 View Post
^This! The only time you should release the side latches is when you are folding the entire top down.
thats what i did i released the side latches. looks like around the back windows the top is loose. and it moved back.. its raining here now tomorrow i will loosen the velcro around the sides and see if i can clip it.. if not i will take the top all the way back..thanks everyone for the help
03-18-2012 04:39 PM
daggo66 ^This! The only time you should release the side latches is when you are folding the entire top down.
03-18-2012 04:36 PM
Cruise missile I had this issue the first time also.

The sunrider clips weren't engaged and the entire top pulled back. Which made it nearly impossible to close.

I had to unhook the sail panels and sorta start over with the top, making sure the clips were engaged before re-hooking the sail panels.

Make sure they are engaged befor flipping it back!!
03-18-2012 03:58 PM
Celtic
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Originally Posted by Texas10Sahara View Post
The only time I've had a problem getting mine to reach was when I didn't have the latch wide open. Need to hold front of latch and push back up to stretch open.
X2

Post a picture of the position of your interior latches. The Sunrider is designed to open and close without loosening anything past the B pillar. Mine opened and closed first time in fifty degree weather with no issue. But, like Texas10Sahara said, the latches need to be fully open.
03-18-2012 03:44 PM
jakbak if your having trouble putting the top back up you're most likely doing it in the wrong order. If you are only using the sunrider do not undo those little clips above the door frame (i made this mistake at first, and it makes connecting the windshield clips a total pita.) If you have the whole top down make sure you connect those clips above the door frame first then put the rear back into the channels then clip the windshield clips in the front.

I've got a 12 jk and have had no issues putting it back up even on those chilly 50 degree days.
03-18-2012 02:34 PM
3TimeOwner Haven't had soft top on the JK yet, but on the TJ in the "warm" San Francisco evenings, I would need to hook the front b4 doing anything on the back side. Even after having it a couple a years, the top would shrink as the fog rolled in and make it impossible to hook the windshield latches if any of the back was already seated. If it doesn't warm up enough for you, try unhooking 1 side of the back and as stated, be sure to hold open your latches, hook 1 side, and the other side should catch. Then work like hell to reseat your bottom clip on the back
03-18-2012 02:11 PM
mastenp The temp drop is the main cause of your problem. The warmer weather makes the material more pliable. As previously suggested make sure that the clip is all the way open, it forces the latch forward a little more. If that doesn't work there is a little front/back play in the release to take the top all the way down. Try and push that forward a little to give you another 1-2 inches at the front. Hope that helps
03-18-2012 02:07 PM
Texas10Sahara
Soft Top Clip

The only time I've had a problem getting mine to reach was when I didn't have the latch wide open. Need to hold front of latch and push back up to stretch open.
03-18-2012 02:00 PM
jp2611 I was a little "irritated" last Sun when we flipped back the top on our '12 JK. because (as you) when it came time to close it up it was a PIA!!! And again this past week the only day I drove the JK it was the same deal. I was spoiled from the TJ everything is stretched to the max so much so that I put pads above the sound bar to keep it flapping so much and be a little more quiet.

( My issue was the passenger side latch) I don't know that it will help....but I loosened the velcro on the passenger side above the back window. My next step would have been to "remove the passenger side window in the rear. Last step would have been to "untuck" the rear corner passenger side by the rear window, get latch "started" re-install the whatever was "undone" than flip the latch closed.



From my experience with my TJ I know that there is a specific order to "reassemble"
a soft top. Not too sure the "sun rider" feature is the best idea/ design for ease of use and the nice quiet ride. The reason the ride is so quiet is the material is very tight.

Hope this helps.
03-18-2012 01:59 PM
cf1
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 View Post
You need to fold the upper clip entirely up, so the lower clip will extend as low as possible. Press your palm to the top of the windshield and fingers over the top and pull together, use the other hand to work the clip. It should go on. Whats the temp there?
right now its 60 and cloudy yesterday was 79 and sunny, first time down.went down nice.. but comeing home last night it was a bit chilly..my dog loved the sunrider.....
03-18-2012 01:50 PM
GoldenSahara00 You need to fold the upper clip entirely up, so the lower clip will extend as low as possible. Press your palm to the top of the windshield and fingers over the top and pull together, use the other hand to work the clip. It should go on. Whats the temp there?
03-18-2012 01:48 PM
cf1
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Originally Posted by Casotakar1229 View Post
you aren't strong enough to rip the material these tops are made of...I'd be shocked if you can rip it lol.
im talking a strap and come along. beive me it will rip.i thinks its just new and need to stretch in the sun a bit.. i thought maybe unzipping the rear window to take the tension off..
03-18-2012 01:42 PM
Casotakar1229
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Originally Posted by cf1 View Post
thats what im afraid of is stretching it or ripping it. its to far to clip..
you aren't strong enough to rip the material these tops are made of...I'd be shocked if you can rip it lol.
03-18-2012 01:30 PM
cf1
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Originally Posted by 3TimeOwner View Post
cool off quite a bit prior to trying to clip? try clipping it when it warms to the temperature it was when you dropped the top. first couple of times, it is going to be tough getting it back on, the fabric needs to stretch
thats what im afraid of is stretching it or ripping it. its to far to clip..
03-18-2012 01:03 PM
the Kolector I'm in the market for the Sunrider top, how do you like it?? My old TJ soft top just went all the way down, no sunrider option. Seems like a nice feature.
03-18-2012 12:59 PM
3TimeOwner cool off quite a bit prior to trying to clip? try clipping it when it warms to the temperature it was when you dropped the top. first couple of times, it is going to be tough getting it back on, the fabric needs to stretch
03-18-2012 12:56 PM
cf1
top wont clip

put my sunrider top down yesterday , now i cant get it to clip in the front, its about 1 inch away. i didnt put the whole top down just the front sunrider..

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