Jeep Wrangler Forum - Reply to Topic
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ General Discussion Forum > had a horrible install experience

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Thread: had a horrible install experience Reply to Thread
Title:
  
Message:
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
03-20-2012 04:19 AM
distortedtj
Quote:
Originally Posted by wavebacktothetj View Post
3 HOURS!!! your kidding I really wish I had your skills how about taking a little trip down to lower Alabama ive got an ultimate kit just dying to get installed
I've got a bit of practice. And no I was not kidding. Add another hour to it and I can have the steering alligned too. By my self you can double the time for the lift install. But I've had wrenches in my hands since just a young pup.

I'd more than willingly come down and install it for you but you'll have to talk uncle sam into sending me home first. Good luck with that.
03-19-2012 03:42 PM
IslandTJ MML install was the hardest project I've done on my Jeep.
03-19-2012 03:03 PM
Hammerwalk Yeah it's just an absolute pain in the ass to get that driver side bracket off and re installed since the AC compressor prevents that bolt from coming out. Do your self a favor and install that bolt opposite direction when putting back together.
03-19-2012 01:19 PM
TJWenatchee I don't know anybody who hasn't had problems with the MML. Had the body lift done in less than an hour. MML took another 3.
03-19-2012 11:44 AM
wavebacktothetj
Quote:
Originally Posted by distortedtj View Post
And it's always more fun with a friend.

Me and a buddy have that kit install down to a hair under 3hrs now. All hand tools minus the drill.

Doesn't help that when I am home I'm just down the road from DPG.
3 HOURS!!! your kidding I really wish I had your skills how about taking a little trip down to lower Alabama ive got an ultimate kit just dying to get installed
03-19-2012 11:39 AM
wavebacktothetj
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrussblues View Post
4" coils dont mix well with stock control arms. The problem you will see is that even with the track bar removed the ridge at the top of the arm will bind on the axle side mount and that's as far as it will droop. From there you will be looking at compressing the spring. Now think of that in terms of flex. No matter what...they will bottom out on that control arm and not flex through their full range as designed. My 2" coils were a pain when I installed them for this reason. You may want to look at some aftermarket lower control arms. Because of the Dom tubing typically used it allows for more clearance within the lower mount. Also, the rear track bar sucks and I hate it. I feel your pain.
your exactly right I noticed that while putting the old junk back on
03-19-2012 12:59 AM
jrussblues
Quote:
Originally Posted by wavebacktothetj
MAN after reading this no wonder it was so rough I didnt loosone the CA bolts nor did I removed the trackbar while trying to get the coils out. my coils distorted were from a 4" procomp lift. THank you hammerwalk for the post its making alot more since I have just never installed a lift kit before and this was just not happening for me I will attempt this again next weekend
4" coils dont mix well with stock control arms. The problem you will see is that even with the track bar removed the ridge at the top of the arm will bind on the axle side mount and that's as far as it will droop. From there you will be looking at compressing the spring. Now think of that in terms of flex. No matter what...they will bottom out on that control arm and not flex through their full range as designed. My 2" coils were a pain when I installed them for this reason. You may want to look at some aftermarket lower control arms. Because of the Dom tubing typically used it allows for more clearance within the lower mount. Also, the rear track bar sucks and I hate it. I feel your pain.
03-18-2012 11:26 PM
distortedtj And it's always more fun with a friend.

Me and a buddy have that kit install down to a hair under 3hrs now. All hand tools minus the drill.

Doesn't help that when I am home I'm just down the road from DPG.
03-18-2012 11:23 PM
Hammerwalk Feel free to contact me. Jsbrandon and I did our lifts at just about the same time but 400 miles apart. Did a lot of talking and comparing notes.

Distorted had some good point as well, be sure to research all options. Doing this solo is tough. You really should have someone to help with.
03-18-2012 11:17 PM
wavebacktothetj MAN after reading this no wonder it was so rough I didnt loosone the CA bolts nor did I removed the trackbar while trying to get the coils out. my coils distorted were from a 4" procomp lift. THank you hammerwalk for the post its making alot more since I have just never installed a lift kit before and this was just not happening for me I will attempt this again next weekend
03-18-2012 11:14 PM
Hammerwalk
Quote:
Originally Posted by distortedtj

Just disco the frame side on the rear trackbar then drop the axle down. The Torx bit on the axle side gets plenty of room to remove then.

Also a good ratchet strap works good also for pulling the axle if you don't have a come along handy.

Never needed to remove/disco the control arms.
The pain I had the that T55 was the self holding bolt. Took forever cause it was a bit on the corroded side so it didn't just come right on out. There wasn't enough room to have the ratchet plus T55 cause the gas tank was in the way. I should clear what i an saying i had enough to get it loosened with the ratchet and t55 socket but could only back out so much before the tank got in the way Once it came out though it was smooth sailing. Just time consuming with only being able to turn the bolt 1/4 turn each time.

I didn't have to remove the rear control arms at all, just the front. Discos had to be removed anyway so I could install the longer adjustable ones that came with the Ultimate kit.

Once everything gets installed and alignment is done, the ride is well worth it for sure though!!
03-18-2012 11:03 PM
distortedtj
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammerwalk View Post
Rear trackbar is a pain in the ass cause it's right in front of the gas tank with a star bolt. Youll need a t55 and monkey wrench or something similar to grab ahold of that bolt with to continue threading it out once you put the rear end back down. You'll need a come-along to center the axle as well

Just disco the frame side on the rear trackbar then drop the axle down. The Torx bit on the axle side gets plenty of room to remove then.

Also a good ratchet strap works good also for pulling the axle if you don't have a come along handy.

Never needed to remove/disco the control arms.
03-18-2012 10:57 PM
Hammerwalk Sorry to hear about your pain. I had a hell of a time but I was dealing with all stock stuff and mainly by my self with the help of my neighbor and his tools from time to time.

Motor mount was a pain. Especially that driver side.

Did you disconnect the upper and lower control arms to get the axle to droop more? I had rented a spring compressor but immediately found it worthless. Once I got the UCA and LCA disconnected from the frame, springs popped right in. It was getting everything lined back up that was a pain.

You will need to go to ACE hardware or some other hardware store and get you a 9/16" metal bit. Costs about $15-20 and you'll use it for roughly 30 seconds to bore out the factory tapered point for front track bar.

Once you can get everything aligned with a cone-along and control arms back on, the rest is smooth.

Rear end is much much easier. Remove shocks and sway bar connects, jack up rear end, let droop as far as you can, push down a little, springs pop right out. Remove the bump stop because you will be installing the spacer anyway , put in new springs, then install spacer, cup, and bumps top. Plenty of room in the spring to do this. Took me all of 30 minutes to get rear end disassembled and rear springs in with bumps tips and I have no clue what I was doing at the moment.

You will need something to cut with to adjust your rear adjustable sway bar connectors.

Rear trackbar is a pain in the ass cause it's right in front of the gas tank with a star bolt. Youll need a t55 and monkey wrench or something similar to grab ahold of that bolt with to continue threading it out once you put the rear end back down. You'll need a come-along to center the axle as well

If you need PM me and I'll call you to help if I can. I can explain a bit more better than I can type. Plus it's a lot faster. All in all it took me a combined ~35 hours spread out over the weekend and 3 additional days to do everything included with the OME Ultimate kit, solo mind you. If you have a friend that can turn a wrench it will go that much smoother.

Good luck and sorry to hear about your misfortune.
03-18-2012 10:51 PM
distortedtj How large are the procomp springs?

I've never needed any spring compressers for the DPG kits and I've installed a share of them.

Set the front or back up on jack stands right behind the control arm mount.
Remove wheels.
disco sway bar.
remove shocks.
Remove track bar.
LOOSEN CONTROL ARM BOLTS.....yes there is a reason. Just loosen them.
Lower axle with jack.
Place jack on opposite side of axle you are removing/installing the spring on. Jack it up. It will push the other side down some.
Remove spring.
Install bump stops extentions.
Install springs.
Move on to other side.
Complete other side.
Install new tracbar. (set length using factory trackbar and add 3/8'' in length. (this will get you close to center. You will still need to tweek it after you get in set on the ground)
Install tires.
Lower vehicle to the ground.
TIGHTEN CONTROL ARM BOLTS.
Install shocks (can do this at any time after the springs are in)
Install new swaybar links.
Center axle with trackbar.

Move to rear.
03-18-2012 10:34 PM
wavebacktothetj
had a horrible install experience

man ok so I went in to install the dpg ultimate kit and everything went wrong I dont know if it was my previous kit making so difficult but oh my gosh! the body lift went on smooth no hangups at all, then the motor mount I got the passenger mount off grinded off 3 threads for the jks extended stud and motor mount and after fighting trying to get it to line up after like half an hour I decided to move it seemed like me engine shifted and I couldnt get it back to make the bottom bolt and stud flush on to the coils well the coil spring compressor would not compress my pro comp coils and I couldnt get it to flex enough to remove them that way broke my track bar ball joint and didnt have a drill to enlarge the driver side track bar mount for the jks adj track bar. So I already removed all the sway bars shocks and tires thinking it would all go on smoothly but I was wrong so I had to put it all back together because the shop I rented was closing soooo after 8 hours all I got was a body lift and a broken trackbar... any tips or tricks

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:04 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC