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05-04-2012 08:38 AM
Green Bay TJ sounds like a JK burned at Rausch Creek this past week. Was an auto trans, sounds like fluid dripped on the exhaust. There's a thread on the RC forums discussing the need to carry fire extinguishers. It sounds like the owner did not, by the timesome folks got over with someextinguishers it was too late and i believe they went through 20 extinguishers trying to keep the tires and gas tank from catching fire before the firedepartment arrived to put out the fire. So glad no one was hurt. I just ordered 2 and some quick release mounts for my tj. Message on the RC forum from somone in the club this guy is with is that they will now require 2 extinguishers on all club vehicles.
04-05-2012 07:53 PM
Jurhip Car fires happen to all makes.
There is an advisement by the NHTSA not to park your 5 series BMW in the garage due to an unsolved fire case. Imagine that.

It sucks and I can see why one wouldn't buy that brand again. But, I don't think its anything to worry about. Fires are investigated at very small population numbers because they can quickly cause life threatening damage if they spread to surrounding structures (the probability of getting hurt while driving a vehicle that lights off is almost nill)

Perform due diligence. After that, have fun. You worry too much and life will pass you by
04-05-2012 07:42 PM
JK NotLimited
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Originally Posted by kkeating
This discussion is interesting--and one's sympathy has to go out to those who have lost vehicles to fires--but let's not jump to confusions.

Unless we know how many Jeeps catch fire each year and the proportion of fires to the total number of Jeeps, and unless we have similar data for other vehicles, we can't say whether this is especially a problem for Jeeps.

If there were 3,000,000 Jeeps on the road and, in any one year, 30 caught fire, that would be one out of 100,000. Even if that proportion were double the proportion for other vehicles, it wouldn't be anything to lose sleep about.

I'm not saying the problem isn't real or that Chrysler shouldn't be held to account if the ultimate fault lies with the manufacturer, but I don't see any reason for Jeep owners to think they've purchased fire hazards.
U'd be speaking very different if it happened to u
04-05-2012 04:58 PM
rics1997 All you have to do is look up Ford Explorer and even FJ Cruiser and will find videos of them on fire too. Wranglers have just become so popular there are so many on the road. If there is a similar amount of percentage of unknown fires per models you would expect the one with the most on the road would have more fires but percentage wise, the numbers are pretty close

FJ Cruiser on FIRE!!! - YouTube

Ford Explorer on Fire - YouTube
04-05-2012 01:40 PM
dubious1
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Originally Posted by Casotakar1229 View Post
kind of disappointing to hear, but they have to cover their tail as well...I mean, when it boils down to it, it is still a business. processes like that I am sure have an entire legal aspect that have to be taken into consideration that we may not even know about (watching my dad go through the legal system as an attorney sometimes takes 2-3 years before settlement or even a case it heard in trial while both sides are not being accommodated any sort of benefits). that all being said, I hope that jeep is able to make up for some of the distrust that they have instilled in you during this whole ordeal. best of luck to you!
No doubt. I wasn't expecting overnight service by any means. My goal now that if this happens again to another Jeeper, Jeep shows the level of customer service to that person that I would've expected.
04-05-2012 11:08 AM
Casotakar1229
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Originally Posted by dubious1 View Post
I see your point, and I agree with most of it. However, I personally can't see myself signing a purchase agreement for a new Wrangler. Sure, it could have been a 1 in a million chance that mine was messed up, but for a consumer, that's enough for me to be worried. It didn't help matters that Jeep didn't do a damn thing to try to resolve this issue sooner than a month after it happened. That's just my $.02.
kind of disappointing to hear, but they have to cover their tail as well...I mean, when it boils down to it, it is still a business. processes like that I am sure have an entire legal aspect that have to be taken into consideration that we may not even know about (watching my dad go through the legal system as an attorney sometimes takes 2-3 years before settlement or even a case it heard in trial while both sides are not being accommodated any sort of benefits). that all being said, I hope that jeep is able to make up for some of the distrust that they have instilled in you during this whole ordeal. best of luck to you!
04-05-2012 10:20 AM
dubious1 I see your point, and I agree with most of it. However, I personally can't see myself signing a purchase agreement for a new Wrangler. Sure, it could have been a 1 in a million chance that mine was messed up, but for a consumer, that's enough for me to be worried. It didn't help matters that Jeep didn't do a damn thing to try to resolve this issue sooner than a month after it happened. That's just my $.02.

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Originally Posted by kkeating View Post
This discussion is interesting--and one's sympathy has to go out to those who have lost vehicles to fires--but let's not jump to confusions.

Unless we know how many Jeeps catch fire each year and the proportion of fires to the total number of Jeeps, and unless we have similar data for other vehicles, we can't say whether this is especially a problem for Jeeps.

If there were 3,000,000 Jeeps on the road and, in any one year, 30 caught fire, that would be one out of 100,000. Even if that proportion were double the proportion for other vehicles, it wouldn't be anything to lose sleep about.

I'm not saying the problem isn't real or that Chrysler shouldn't be held to account if the ultimate fault lies with the manufacturer, but I don't see any reason for Jeep owners to think they've purchased fire hazards.
04-05-2012 10:19 AM
Casotakar1229
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I've been on the road for most of the month with business, so I haven't needed a loaner. I'm going into the dealership tomorrow to pick one up.

ah, alright. well when you get it, I'm interested to see what they give you...maybe a brand new rubi to try and change your mind or if they'll go with something like a cherokee and avoid the wrangler...
04-05-2012 10:17 AM
dubious1
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Originally Posted by Casotakar1229 View Post
man. just a bunch of finger pointing. sucks. what loaner vehicle are you driving?
I've been on the road for most of the month with business, so I haven't needed a loaner. I'm going into the dealership tomorrow to pick one up.
04-05-2012 09:26 AM
kkeating
Let's Get Some Facts First

This discussion is interesting--and one's sympathy has to go out to those who have lost vehicles to fires--but let's not jump to confusions.

Unless we know how many Jeeps catch fire each year and the proportion of fires to the total number of Jeeps, and unless we have similar data for other vehicles, we can't say whether this is especially a problem for Jeeps.

If there were 3,000,000 Jeeps on the road and, in any one year, 30 caught fire, that would be one out of 100,000. Even if that proportion were double the proportion for other vehicles, it wouldn't be anything to lose sleep about.

I'm not saying the problem isn't real or that Chrysler shouldn't be held to account if the ultimate fault lies with the manufacturer, but I don't see any reason for Jeep owners to think they've purchased fire hazards.
04-05-2012 08:41 AM
Casotakar1229
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Jeep investigated after multiple fires | News - Home

Here's my story from the local news station.
man. just a bunch of finger pointing. sucks. what loaner vehicle are you driving?
04-05-2012 07:29 AM
dubious1 Jeep investigated after multiple fires | News - Home

Here's my story from the local news station.
04-03-2012 06:26 PM
cvomike I have seen 2 two in the Charlotte NC area that have burned in the last 2 mounths see the video at WCNC.com . the reporter that covered the story is really digging into this ...
04-03-2012 06:24 PM
Jayy
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Originally Posted by mijku View Post
What type of vehicle was that???
That is a 2011 Kia Sorento. To be fair, the suspected cause of the fire was the aftermarket Curt tow wiring harness.
04-03-2012 06:08 PM
Riccochet
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Originally Posted by mijku View Post
What type of vehicle was that???
looks like it used to be a 2012 Ford Explorer.
04-03-2012 04:33 PM
mijku
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Originally Posted by Jayy
I just bought a new 2012 JKU last week with the insurance money from my previous ride...... that mysteriously went up in FLAMES while parked in my driveway.

What are the odds of getting struck by lightning twice? LOL
What type of vehicle was that???
04-03-2012 02:25 PM
Jayy
How Ironic

I just bought a new 2012 JKU last week with the insurance money from my previous ride...... that mysteriously went up in FLAMES while parked in my driveway.

What are the odds of getting struck by lightning twice? LOL


04-03-2012 12:37 PM
jannikt Here is an interesting twist on the story.
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Things got interesting when Heiney was apparently offered "hush money" from Chrysler in the form of a payout if he signed a non-disclosure document to keep the incident under wraps. Obviously, he declined
NHTSA probes Chevrolet Cruze, Jeep Wrangler engine fires

If you check the NHTSA database, there are 13 reported incidents of 2010 Wranglers catching fire spontaneously, under normal driving conditions or while parked. I'm sure many more will surface as soon as this issue gets a little bit more publicity.
04-03-2012 12:31 PM
JIMBOX I carry two fire extinguishers, but as you say, sometimes it's no good, but it's still safer for a, if you carryem--

17 years ago My Lotus Esprit- engine comp caught fire and it took two fire truks ALL WATER, to extinguishit !!

Total destruction-

JIMBO
04-03-2012 11:04 AM
DaisyCutter I've only ever experienced 1 vehicle fire. I caused it whenI was 17YO, and wired my own KC lights without a fuse. A radiator bracket abraded it's way through the wire insulation, and the "+" wire burned itself. I had some flames under the dash, but they died out before anything else caught.


Point being, that Wranglers generally receive a lot of owner modifications. Some fires could've been caused from haphazard mods.



I carry a fire extinguisher, top of the window behind the passenger seat.






As stated before, an extinguisher is okay in a pinch, but it likely won't be enough for a fully engulfed engine compartment.
04-03-2012 10:38 AM
Casotakar1229 sucks that your experience was so bad you aren't going to buy another. guess sometimes we just get the lemon...well, good luck with your next purchase and I hope one day you'll come back to wrangler!
04-03-2012 09:12 AM
dubious1 Hey y'all. Thought I'd give a little bit of an update.

Both Jeep and Chrysler have finished their investigation, but I have not heard any results yet. I plan on having Geico pay off my Jeep, and they'll deal with Jeep if they are found to be liable for the fire.

So, after this week, I'll be back at square one, looking for a new vehicle. As much as it pains me to say this, I can't see myself buying another Wrangler. For one, I can't wait around without a car until they decide what's wrong. Two, I don't want to run the risk of this happening again. I know the chances are small, but it's still a large risk in my eyes.
04-02-2012 10:10 AM
dukedallas Wont the insurance companies replace the vehicle anyway? Or the difference in what jeep gives you?
04-02-2012 09:20 AM
jannikt This is a known, well documented issue that has been bugging Jeep for many years, but they always managed to get around it with half-measures. In 2010 Chinese government stopped importation of Wranglers into China because of several spontaneous fires. Apparently authorities in China act more expeditiously than NHTSA / DOT.
Finally, NHTSA has decided to open a formal investigation into the problem. There is another thread on this subkject
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/nht...on-150623.html
Hopefully this time they will get to the bottom of the issue and force Chrysler to act and implement a real solution before somebody gets killed.
04-02-2012 09:10 AM
Riccochet Be happy it wasn't parked in your garage at home.
04-01-2012 09:37 PM
JK NotLimited THIS IS NOT JUST A JK ISSUE!
My Commander burned down back in '07 absolutely out of nowhere, when i parked in front of a restaurant going for Sunday's lunch with my gf. I do not wish that feeling to anyone, the most helpless feeling in the world.
04-01-2012 09:28 PM
blw2000 Have you seen this?

U.S. to probe Wrangler, Cruze on engine fire reports - Yahoo! Finance

Apparently it is common enough to warrant an investigation. Maybe this and the death wobble probe will get these problems solved!
03-27-2012 03:29 PM
dubious1
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Originally Posted by Sunflour View Post
OMG Im glad you were ok and not in it when that happened..
Any idea why that happened??
Can't say for sure. HFD has the cause as electrical failure/malfunction in the engine area. I've probably said too much already lol
03-27-2012 03:18 PM
Sunflour OMG Im glad you were ok and not in it when that happened..
Any idea why that happened??
03-27-2012 03:06 PM
CiDZillA
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Originally Posted by dubious1 View Post
Just thought I'd chime in here. Search for "dubiouscubanx" on YouTube. You will find 2 videos of my 2012 JK Sport; one while it's burning, and the other while it's being towed away.

Still waiting to hear back from Jeep about their investigation. That takes place on Thursday morning. Car was brand new (bought it that afternoon with 11 miles), and it burned about 4 hours after buying it. I only got to drive it for about 20 minutes total.
Damn that is rotten. I hope they take care of ya.
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