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02-10-2013 11:48 PM
Ben-o
Quote:
Originally Posted by goatman
I tried it once, built a tank and a large circuit board to provide 80v DC to stacked copper electrodes separated by nylon washers. It would bubble a little and made flammable gas for sure, but nowhere near enough to do anything useful.

Think about it, earlier comments claim 8-12hp increase... In what size engine? Can't be the same for all engines.. The power source I was using to make a steady stream was a 220v 40 amp circuit powering quite a few diode bridges wired together. No way could an automotive alternator produce enough juice to make enough gas to increase fuel economy when factoring in all that extra weight.

My project was based on scientific knowledge and I was proving that the technology was not anywhere near useful in a vehicle.

I got enough gas to power a weed wacker consistently.
Did you add electrolyte to your water?
02-04-2013 03:17 PM
goatman I tried it once, built a tank and a large circuit board to provide 80v DC to stacked copper electrodes separated by nylon washers. It would bubble a little and made flammable gas for sure, but nowhere near enough to do anything useful.

Think about it, earlier comments claim 8-12hp increase... In what size engine? Can't be the same for all engines.. The power source I was using to make a steady stream was a 220v 40 amp circuit powering quite a few diode bridges wired together. No way could an automotive alternator produce enough juice to make enough gas to increase fuel economy when factoring in all that extra weight.

My project was based on scientific knowledge and I was proving that the technology was not anywhere near useful in a vehicle.

I got enough gas to power a weed wacker consistently.
02-04-2013 07:59 AM
shaftymon
HHO Myths......

I obviously can't say either way whether it works or not, at least until I get my baseline and test the kit out myself. However, from what I have read, worst case scenario you significantly reduce the harmful emissions produced by your vehicle. As far as general upkeep goes, so what!? We are Jeepers, tinkering is what we do ...... If I can increase my mpg's by even 10% AND reduce emissions, I'll be satisfied.

7 more days till I'm back stateside!! Happy Jeeping!
02-03-2013 11:58 PM
Ben-o
Quote:
Originally Posted by DILLIGAF
When I first discovered the HHO video's I thought wow this is kinda cool. So being very mechanically capable, I set off to tackle this wacky project. We also happen to have a professor in the family, who also is a wrench turning tinkerer, his passion is the Saab Sonet. In my opinion the worst driving platform ever..

We did the math, as you will too. This is a tinker toy idea at best and is prone to issues. As wonderful as it sounds, and as much as I would like to avoid sending money for crude oil to the opec nations. In the end you are setting yourself up for a disapointment but it does challange one's mental proscess. just be careful and dont put it on your favorite car.

But I digress. It just seems Detroit or China would have incorperated it into the latest hybrid if it was a winner..
I get what your saying there and if you read up on these systems there is a little maintenance and tweaking of electrolyte and running the system out if water may kill it, my run in with people and maintenance is pretty poor, my dad owns a ford dealership and the mechanic part of the business is sometimes comical because of what people do and don't to there cars. One lady came in Cus there was a noise in here engine, oil was 10k passed due and running two quarts low...I mean that's just my take is the maintenance part but then again maybe it's something else idk
02-03-2013 11:51 PM
Ben-o
Quote:
Originally Posted by roadyrob

I'll tell you the ending, it doesn't work. the machine doesn't produce enough HHO to make a difference.
a local police dept. did a test on a couple of their cars. state of the art system. ran it for 6 months. no benefit, local collage had the same results.
Do you have any info on this? Like article and what not?? I'd love to read and see what it says
02-03-2013 11:50 PM
Ben-o
Quote:
Originally Posted by CPLSeraphim
Well, I just ordered a kit to install, and still learning the specifics. I will be putting it on my 97 ford escort wagon, so we will see what happens. I get good milage now, 26 in town, 40 highway, but I just changed the air filter, and that thing was black, so it clearly needed replaced, so I wll got through 2 full tanks of gas to get a new base line mpg, and then do the install (when it is a little warmer) and give it a whirl. Since the thread and knowledge was killed off before with crappy luck, hopefuly I can inject some new hope. I didn't get the most expensive set up, and I still need to get some parts, so timing is pretty good for an install the 1st weekend of next month at the latest. Alrighty, thats enough for now.
Good glad to hear it, and looking forward to seeing your results! My brother had a ford escort wagon, I loved that thing
02-03-2013 09:38 AM
DILLIGAF When I first discovered the HHO video's I thought wow this is kinda cool. So being very mechanically capable, I set off to tackle this wacky project. We also happen to have a professor in the family, who also is a wrench turning tinkerer, his passion is the Saab Sonet. In my opinion the worst driving platform ever..

We did the math, as you will too. This is a tinker toy idea at best and is prone to issues. As wonderful as it sounds, and as much as I would like to avoid sending money for crude oil to the opec nations. In the end you are setting yourself up for a disapointment but it does challange one's mental proscess. just be careful and dont put it on your favorite car.

But I digress. It just seems Detroit or China would have incorperated it into the latest hybrid if it was a winner..
02-03-2013 08:17 AM
CPLSeraphim
Quote:
Originally Posted by roadyrob View Post
I'll tell you the ending, it doesn't work. the machine doesn't produce enough HHO to make a difference.
a local police dept. did a test on a couple of their cars. state of the art system. ran it for 6 months. no benefit, local collage had the same results.
Well thanks for ruining the movie for me. lol. I've just been looking at it, and everything seems heresay. I figure WTH? lol. even if it may just clean or something, so oh well.
02-03-2013 06:30 AM
roadyrob
Quote:
Originally Posted by DevilHawk View Post
Cool, looking forward to hearing the outcome!
I'll tell you the ending, it doesn't work. the machine doesn't produce enough HHO to make a difference.
a local police dept. did a test on a couple of their cars. state of the art system. ran it for 6 months. no benefit, local collage had the same results.
02-03-2013 12:57 AM
Frenz
02-02-2013 04:12 PM
DevilHawk Cool, looking forward to hearing the outcome!
02-02-2013 11:02 AM
CPLSeraphim Well, I just ordered a kit to install, and still learning the specifics. I will be putting it on my 97 ford escort wagon, so we will see what happens. I get good milage now, 26 in town, 40 highway, but I just changed the air filter, and that thing was black, so it clearly needed replaced, so I wll got through 2 full tanks of gas to get a new base line mpg, and then do the install (when it is a little warmer) and give it a whirl. Since the thread and knowledge was killed off before with crappy luck, hopefuly I can inject some new hope. I didn't get the most expensive set up, and I still need to get some parts, so timing is pretty good for an install the 1st weekend of next month at the latest. Alrighty, thats enough for now.
01-28-2013 12:45 AM
DevilHawk AAHHH I wanna know how this ends up so bad! That's one thing I want to get more of out of my I6 is MPG's. Any other ideas as to improving them? Mines carbureted btw.
01-23-2013 09:22 PM
Frenz hello Ben.. and Hello ShaftyMon.. it's good to see you both here. My build has also taken longer than expected.. Turbo Jeep sounds pretty cool, my little 2.5 (tractor like I hope) has the tri county gear inertia ring and should be ready by Spring. ah but still looking forward to the hho blog.
01-23-2013 01:47 AM
shaftymon
HHO Jeep STATUS....

Update..... I still have my "professionally" built HHO Kit in my garage, Not installed on my CJ .... After last years Afghan deployment I came back to Denver and married my best friend, then got deployed again.

My new wife can't drive the CJ (standard), and we will be starting a family soon.,. So it is currently for sale (if anybody is interested in a BADASS CJ7).
I did however find a slightly used JK Unlimited with a RIPP Supercharger.

As soon as I get back home and settled ill be tracking my gas mileage with the JK as is, then install my HHO Kit and posting the results.

Cheers from the desert!
01-22-2013 11:32 PM
Ben-o I didn't have it in my jeep long enough to confirm or deny...BUT I'm back in the jeep family I picked up a 1976 jeep Cherokee I'm going to steal the HHO back from my bro (because he doesn't use it, for what ever reason) and hopefully be back at it even tho this is a wrangler forum
More info on the Cherokee
4.2 amc i6
3 speed standard
Pics to come
01-22-2013 03:26 AM
allblackedout No way I'm reading this entire thread! Sooo any results or anything on the HHO?
06-22-2012 04:55 PM
Frenz money should bea by product.. should not have to go collecting. hurry home soldier.. the desert's only nice at night. or after it rains.
06-20-2012 03:39 PM
shaftymon Thanks for the kind words guys.... It's been another rough spring out here in the desert, but looking forward to coming home one month from today!!

It is probably best for everyone to continue this thread, less hassle of transferring over...... So thanks Ben, and I hope you get your money soon and the YJ works out for ya!

Cheers for now...
06-18-2012 07:40 AM
CPLSeraphim Sounds like a plan, Ben-o
06-18-2012 01:01 AM
Ben-o As an update on me, still waiting to get paid and have my eyes on a beautiful yj I'll keep ya posted if anything changes
06-18-2012 12:56 AM
Ben-o
Quote:
Originally Posted by shaftymon
I came across this thread, and feel bad for Ben's unfortunate jeep events.... However, I have the best rated, highest quality HHO generator kit waiting for me at home to install in my 1980 CJ7 I6.

Still currently deployed in Afghanistan, but I arrive back in Denver at the end of July, and hope to have the kit installed and tested by middle August. I will start a post or maybe continue on this one, to give you all an actual NO BS result.

For good easy to read hho generator information check out this HHO Generator site.

Feel free to contact me and I'll get back with y'all in a couple months...

-Cheers
Thanks for your service man I appreciate it beyond words and a beautiful looking cj to

Ya man that's great, your more then welcome to use this thread if you choose if not def throw a link up for yours, can't wait to hear your results and see your set up.
06-15-2012 11:28 PM
whiteyj
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
While i can sort of figure out what this is.. um what does HHO stand for?
H+H+O = H2O or water.....
06-15-2012 11:13 PM
CPLSeraphim X2 and good luck in the Ghan, bro. I did 2 tours in Iraq, never made it to the ghan, so keep on keeping on (Joe Dirt reference) and come home safe.

And do keep us posted.
06-15-2012 06:22 PM
SandyMushYJ Hey Shafty, if you start a thread in a different section of the forum, post a link here, woulda?
06-15-2012 06:16 PM
shaftymon
Hi guys, results will come in a couple months......

I came across this thread, and feel bad for Ben's unfortunate jeep events.... However, I have the best rated, highest quality HHO generator kit waiting for me at home to install in my 1980 CJ7 I6.

Still currently deployed in Afghanistan, but I arrive back in Denver at the end of July, and hope to have the kit installed and tested by middle August. I will start a post or maybe continue on this one, to give you all an actual NO BS result.

For good easy to read hho generator information check out this HHO Generator site.

Feel free to contact me and I'll get back with y'all in a couple months...

-Cheers

05-03-2012 06:04 PM
Ben-o That's very true too, could just add more mpg to that
05-03-2012 01:59 PM
Drix There are easier and safer ways to get 23-24 mpg out of a diesel then an HHO kit.
05-03-2012 01:03 PM
Ben-o That's pretty good I wanna trade my f150 for powerstroke take all the restrictions off and put one of these on there....if only money wasn't an issue haha
05-03-2012 12:21 AM
Ga jeep family
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-o

Really? I tried looking...maybe I shoulda jumped on some diesel forums, but ya that's a bummer to hear cus iv also heard it is supposed to work better on diesels lol I guess I'll have to see either way tho
It works better on a diesel cause the diesels don't have o2 sensors. I know a guy that builds them for 18 wheelers. He has one on his 05 f-250 crew cab 4x4. He went from 16-17 mpg to 23-24.
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