|03-25-2012 12:34 AM|
|03-24-2012 10:38 AM|
That explains everything! My brother's a music guy (went to Berklee for studio engineering), and he's wacky as shit!
Man, one little tidbit of info and my mental picture of ESP – the Man, not the Jeeper – is now complete.
I salute you, song meister:
|03-24-2012 10:08 AM|
|03-24-2012 07:27 AM|
SO put a dent in the Cowl area when he was putting the doors back on. Prime time spot to dent if you don't use a mirror relocation bracket, from what I gathered. He said he didn't remember anything out of the ordinary, but there it is! It really is the only thing that I can think would have happened and it lined up perfectly if one were to take the limiter strap off the door. To his credit, he has been putting them on and taking them off for years, so maybe this was just a one time thing. It is still painful to see the very first one....
At any rate, who makes a good cowl cover that is NOT plastic? It seems pretty difficult to find body armor that is not plastic. I've had this argument with him a few times, and my feeling is if we are going to truly get body armor, it should actually be functional and pretty!
He was actually very depressed about it, but this is what I told him.....
"Dear, this is just a perfect excuse to bump up the cowl cover mod to be right behind the Safari Straps and bolt kit!" Before, the cowl cover was loowww in the list. It really did not make him feel that much better though.
|03-24-2012 04:23 AM|
Cosmetic stuff where armor should be is not good IMO.
Just get the armor if you are going to go through the installation process anyway.
Man it makes me wish I still had access to a sheet metal shop.
|03-23-2012 11:59 PM|
|03-23-2012 10:16 PM|
purely for looks and are a waste of $$$ imo. but if that's what you like, don't let anyone stop you. it's your jeep and your money.
I put tail light guards on and I know damn well they won't do much to protect it, maybe in the parking lot or whatever, but they are cosmetic and I loved the way they looked.
|03-23-2012 09:58 PM|
|03-23-2012 09:56 PM|
|03-23-2012 01:44 PM|
FWIW, I plan to put these on mine. But, like Mike said, they are definitely mainly for the look. They will provide a little bit of protection from brush on the trails and such. However, a hard hit and they would just crumble and would do nothing to prevent denting of the body. If I wanted that, I would go with the AEV corners.
|03-23-2012 01:35 PM|
Well in fairness, it's a fine "mod" to do, but just know that it's purely aesthetic. Like how I bedlined my door hinges purely for the looks, or folks who plasti-dip or bedline their grille.
There is "real" body armor available, but it's heavy and much more expensive. So it's up to you. Just be aware of what you're getting--if you're actually looking for armor, this isn't it. If you just like the look, well, then maybe these are for you.
|03-23-2012 01:29 PM|
Thanks for the help guys.
I'd love to find these pieces in actual diamond plate, but a bit of research and it seems like making my own may be the best bet.
|03-23-2012 01:25 PM|
|ESP||Were here to help brother, good question.|
|03-23-2012 01:22 PM|
|CiDZillA||Okay I get it. Flimsy. Suspicions confirmed.|
|03-23-2012 01:19 PM|
|03-23-2012 01:18 PM|
I went with aluminum ones personally, and they are drilled and riveted. If you hit something, they dent up exactly like the body panel does. mostly just appearances, so if you like the way they look, then have at it
On my DJ5, I actually fabbed my own, and used 1/8" aluminum, which is probably 3 or 4 times thicker than the ones I bought for the JK (and cheaper), and those have taken several pretty solid hits with no noticable damage done at all. If you want actual "armor", then make your own.
EDIT- Oh yeah, and bare aluminum, if you go that route, will stain pretty easily from mud, tree bark, etc. and requires steel wool to get it cleaned up. rubber ones would likely be much easier in that regard.
|03-23-2012 01:14 PM|
Poor quality? (I am suspicious...)
Don't prefer the look?
|03-23-2012 01:06 PM|
|ESP||Don't do that.|
|03-23-2012 01:05 PM|
Rugged Ridge Black Diamond Plate Body Armor
Anyone on here have experience with these products?
Amazon.com: Rugged Ridge 11651.51 Black Diamond Plate Body Armor Kit: Automotive
I think it would give my Jeep a cool look and also offer some protection when in the woods, but I want to know what other Jeep people think about it.
Does it hold up a long time? Did you use the 3M tape or did you decide to drill? Does it look good on your rig? Pics if ya got 'em.