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04-22-2008 02:35 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
I, for one, always thought you had a folder on your computer with different word documents so you could just copy and paste.
I don't but I should, huh!
04-22-2008 02:27 PM
4.0l sahara
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
but then whats the point of people making statements if they cant back them up? Thats why ask questions. Many times i'm curious so just because i'm asking a question doesn't mean i'm against it or something.

also as the currie goes.. whats the difference between the stock one and the currie? As far as i know the currie has multiple holes that make it "softer" or harder" but is that it?
A currie is soft enough to allow flex but also maintain off road stability. It works better with the rear sway bar witch like a currie is soft enough to flex but also still help maintain stability. He's not saying discos are bad bad. There better than stock but he is saying that a currie with a rear sway bar is better.
04-22-2008 02:27 PM
MR.CLIFFORD
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Who said we can't "back them up"? Once in a while these kinds of things get so drawn out that we (at least me) get a little tired of re-stating the same things over and over again over the years.
I, for one, always thought you had a folder on your computer with different word documents so you could just copy and paste.
04-22-2008 02:02 PM
JimmytheJeep does anybody know if you can buy a replacement drive train that is one piece? the one now moves a bit and has two separate pieces to it. I'm looking to get a new one that is just a solid piece.
04-22-2008 10:43 AM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
but then whats the point of people making statements if they cant back them up?
Who said we can't "back them up"? Once in a while these kinds of things get so drawn out that we (at least me) get a little tired of re-stating the same things over and over again over the years.
04-21-2008 11:24 PM
Triple88a
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
again
but then whats the point of people making statements if they cant back them up? Thats why ask questions. Many times i'm curious so just because i'm asking a question doesn't mean i'm against it or something.

also as the currie goes.. whats the difference between the stock one and the currie? As far as i know the currie has multiple holes that make it "softer" or harder" but is that it?
04-21-2008 11:19 PM
AzTJ
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
so discos are in fact a bad upgrade according to that theory?
That's why something like the Currie Anti-Rock comes into play.
04-21-2008 09:35 PM
MR.CLIFFORD
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Originally Posted by 4point View Post
You're thinking toooo much.
again
04-21-2008 08:55 PM
4point
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
so discos are in fact a bad upgrade according to that theory?
You're thinking toooo much.
04-21-2008 08:53 PM
Triple88a so discos are in fact a bad upgrade according to that theory?
04-21-2008 08:40 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
the one fighting the other if one is discoed and other isnt?

so what you're saying is its better to have both connected than both disconnected?
Yes, it's never good to have both disconnected.
04-21-2008 08:38 PM
Triple88a the one fighting the other if one is discoed and other isnt?

so what you're saying is its better to have both connected than both disconnected?
04-21-2008 08:34 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
Thank you
I added one more final note to the above...
04-21-2008 08:27 PM
Triple88a Thank you
04-21-2008 08:23 PM
Jerry Bransford
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
why is it you listen now and not the 100,000 other times everyone else told you?
Yeah, really.

The rear antiswaybar helps keep the body and frame under control on extra steep or very off-camber terrain, which could mean the difference in rolling or tipping or not.

Removing the rear antiswaybar does not increase usable axle articulation. The slight amount of additional movement it would gain comes at a price, that there is then no downforce on the tire with the least traction, which the antiswaybar helps provide.

For those and other reasons, those who are doing the very toughest trails in their TJs most often have their rear antiswaybars in place and connected. And if you haven't heard this from me before, I'll just say that John Currie WON the US national rock crawling championships in his FireAnt TJ that had front AND rear antiswaybars connected.

Both of the below are photos I took of John Currie in Johnson Valley in the final event where he won the overall championship. The first photo is of his Fire Ant TJ. The second shows his Fire Ant's rear Antirock antiswaybar which is essentially the same stiffness antiswaybar that comes in a stock TJ. His entire frame & suspension was custom made so he had to install his own antiswaybars (front and rear). If they didn't help, he wouldn't have them installed front and rear.

Plus if you have a rear antiswaybar plus an Antirock up front, it helps the front and rear suspensions work together instead of fighting each other as they do when one is disco'd and the other isn't. The front and rear suspensions are better balanced then so it all works together much better.
04-21-2008 08:20 PM
Triple88a oh i see.

Its quite nice when one gives a reason why they say something...

to back your statement up
04-21-2008 08:14 PM
MR.CLIFFORD
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
because many people explain it like this when one asks or did we forget?
when teaching falls on deaf ears you tend to quit helping.
04-21-2008 08:10 PM
4point
04-21-2008 08:06 PM
Triple88a
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
why is it you listen now and not the 100,000 other times everyone else told you?
because many people explain it like this when one asks or did we forget?

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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
replace speedo gear and calculate again. Newb.
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
because
04-21-2008 07:59 PM
MR.CLIFFORD
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
can you please explain why? I'm curious now.
why is it you listen now and not the 100,000 other times everyone else told you?
04-21-2008 07:58 PM
Triple88a
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
I'll also say that removing the rear antiswaybar on a TJ just degrades its performance offroad.
can you please explain why? I'm curious now.
04-21-2008 03:59 PM
Jerry Bransford Has anyone jacked around with the pinion angle? If so, that symptom points to it being too high.

That said, I'll also say that removing the rear antiswaybar on a TJ just degrades its performance offroad. On-road too, but those who remove it seem to think removing it helps the rear axle articulate better... it doesn't. At least not in a usable manner.
04-21-2008 03:38 PM
JimmytheJeep I have 33x12.50 now. It doesn't make a knocking sound, just doesn't seem to catch. I'm leaning towards it being the u joint.
Thanks
04-18-2008 05:41 PM
Triple88a
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
I don't run a rear sway bar either.
Mine used to have one Now its in the storage room

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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
Can you grab your driveshaft and make it move in any direction other than a hair bit of rotation?
Does it knock too? There will be "heavy" knocking from the gears but does the U joint knock?
04-18-2008 04:41 PM
1BLKJP Can you grab your driveshaft and make it move in any direction other than a hair bit of rotation? Probably a ujoint just getting old and wearing out. 12.50 and about 20 minutes and you'll be back in business.
04-18-2008 03:16 PM
MR.CLIFFORD what size tires do you have?
04-18-2008 03:15 PM
JimmytheJeep Its only in first gear. As soon as i start out of it it seems like it might stall. Kinda like when you start in 2nd and have to give more gas. It causes my entire frame to shake a bit. Feels like something is loose and is not catching all the way.
04-17-2008 09:16 PM
MR.CLIFFORD
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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
doesn't make it wrong either...
agreed. I don't run a rear sway bar either.
04-17-2008 08:55 PM
4Jeepn
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD View Post
That doesn't make it right.
doesn't make it wrong either...
04-17-2008 08:52 PM
MR.CLIFFORD
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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
FWIW.. I don't even have a rear sway bar on mine.
That doesn't make it right.
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