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06-27-2012 11:08 PM
dodge
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Originally Posted by hotrod6464
I didn't even realize I had A/C when I got my 11 JK. I had never owned a jeep with air before.
Now hand crank windows I can live with quite happily but no A/C I could not. It is supposed to be 100 degrees down here this weekend.
06-27-2012 10:55 PM
hotrod6464 I didn't even realize I had A/C when I got my 11 JK. I had never owned a jeep with air before.
06-27-2012 02:29 PM
N3M0
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Originally Posted by Jeeperz Creeperz View Post
Don't worry about people not being able to use crank windows.

Have fun watching people look for the window switch control. They never can find them in the middle of the dash. I had a 1992 Camarro that had the window switches in the center console, so I found them quickly.

Also with a Wrangler you can have 2 sets of doors. One power and one not. One set for the country girl friend who likes mudding, the other for the city girl you are taking to the opera. The third option is no doors for the one who likes going naked (jeep of course).

06-27-2012 02:28 PM
N3M0 specifically ordered mine without power locks and windows
06-27-2012 02:25 PM
Jeeperz Creeperz Don't worry about people not being able to use crank windows.

Have fun watching people look for the window switch control. They never can find them in the middle of the dash. I had a 1992 Camarro that had the window switches in the center console, so I found them quickly.

Also with a Wrangler you can have 2 sets of doors. One manual (zipper or crank) and the other power. One set for the country girl friend who likes mudding, the other for the city girl you are taking to the opera. The third option is no doors for the one who likes going naked (jeep of course).
06-27-2012 12:49 PM
Emaske Ha how bout windows with a zipper.
06-27-2012 12:06 PM
Than I have a 2dr jkx (cheapest one) now thats a jeep like they used to be, not all the power this and power that bull, thats not a jeep.
06-02-2012 06:54 AM
tommyjeep hmmm...trash talk about hand cranks would suggest you have windows..and doors to roll them up from? Nope! never had that complaint. All those doors, windows, tops make it hard to execute an 'over the top' jeep wave :-)
06-02-2012 06:22 AM
Scarlet Begonia
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Originally Posted by joe002 View Post
I thought it was Fix It Again Tony - that's what our tour guide told us when we visited Italy last year.
Growing up, my daddy had an old Fiat that had crank windows. It was a PITA when the crank part broke inside the door. We couldn't raise or lower the windows without grabbing the glass, too, and pulling it up along with turning the crank. Lucky for him, it was the passenger door.

When we were first shopping for a jeep for me, I wanted an older 2 door with manual everything, but it wasn't meant to be my primary mode of transportation. Instead, we traded in the minivan for my 4 door and I love all the "extras" that came with it.
06-02-2012 04:54 AM
Con Artist
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Originally Posted by joe002 View Post
I'm too lazy to get out of my Jeep and disconnect the sway bar - I need to push a button.
I dunno how to disconnect a swaybar so I need to push a button.

As for power windows/locks, I could definitely reach across the vehicle to crank down a pair of windows and press down some locks, and while it wouldn't really bother me per se, I do like having at least a few simple comforts built into my $35,000 vehicle.

FWIW, I don't plan on finding myself in any situation where I'm getting mud into the window motors, and even if I did plan on it, I'd be hard-pressed to find somewhere where it'd be possible.
06-02-2012 12:17 AM
iluvshoes
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Originally Posted by dodge View Post
I have nothing against power windows and locks. I have had them in my last two trucks but I have had issues with both. So I was happy to stay old school with my jeep.
I had a 2004 Jeep Liberty Limited with power window and they broke twice. I don't mind power locks and windows but without them, it's just less things that will break. I have to admit, it took me a few days to break the habit of not having keyless entry...lol. I keep forgetting to unlock the door for the BF all the time...still. The keyless is helpful when your hands are full and I did like the fact the doors would lock once you started to move. But not enough to pay extra for it.
06-02-2012 12:13 AM
Coach My friends are usually too busy trying to figure out where the doors are to worry about the hand cranked windows.
06-02-2012 12:09 AM
snochick Meh, my TJ didn't have power windows/locks. Both our JKU's do. Wasn't really something we looked for, but I wasn't being specific on color for both and that's what the dealers found.

Now being military I'm gonna admit, coming through that gate on base on a daily basis is not nearly as annoying when you can just push a button instead of unzip or roll a window down. Then again most people don't roll their window down as much as we do I'm thinking or I wouldn't have to get driver side windows replaced here every couple years due to grooves being worn from all the up and down. (Sand in the seal I'm assuming)
06-01-2012 10:06 PM
saharaguy
having no power windows about basics?

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Originally Posted by Thorshammer7 View Post
Its more about basics and durability
Hi...

Hey...if you buy a 2012 Wrangler...like mine...ordering it with NO power windows has near zero effect on basics and reliability...

ALL new Wranglers have the same 'computer controlled' drivetrain...

Power windows are relatively crude electrical devices compared to the rest of the stuff...

So, claiming to go 'basic' with no power windows?...Keep dreaming...

EVERYTHING else is controlled by the computer...

It's NOT like the 'old days' when having power windows and locks was a technical tour-de-force...

Just my 3 cents worth...

S-Guy
06-01-2012 09:28 PM
lindolyn13 We test drove a 2 dr with hand crank and my daughter did not know how to open the window, it was very funny... the hand cranks are usually very stiff at first so she had to put alot of "arm" into rolling down the window lol I should have video taped her. We ended up with a 4 dr and they come standard with power locks and windows as much as I would have loved the manual ones in the 4 dr. My husband made a comment about the A/C since it was the simplest fan and auto dial temp "no climate control" yeah right take the doors and top off theirs your climate control lol... He drives a chryslar 300 (loaded) and has decided that the Jeep is really his style and the 300 is my style, I told him he could have his luxuary car any day I love my jeep!
06-01-2012 08:46 PM
suicideking Power windows is essential in the JKU -- I like to roll all 4 windows down. With just the front 2, the breeze is kind of harsh. With all 4 down, it's really nice.

Is that power top a factory item? How much is it? I know there's an aftermarket one that's around $5K. Don't think I could ever pay that much when you can get a soft top for under $1K.
06-01-2012 08:29 PM
wassup8687 When I started looking for a JK I was going to go with manual windows but that was in a 2door. I ended up with the 4 door and i'm glad I have power.
06-01-2012 04:51 PM
DJL2 It's nice that as a country we no longer consider power windows a luxury item...not just that, but we don't expect to hold the button down, either!

Plenty of folks would just as soon not spend that money, especially in places where people don't but their cars on credit.

Looking at someone willing to save money on a feature they don't want and giving them crap for it...might that be related to all the people in this country that buy far more than they can afford?

Yeah, why save money on power features when you can get those AND a set of dub-deuces for your 42 inch tires...all with a magic plastic card?!
06-01-2012 04:37 PM
JeepHerz Got my power window kit installed this weekend. Works great. Sounds like robocop is in my door. Not easy to install but primarily due to crappy instructions. $250. And came with quick disconnects so I can still get her naked.
06-01-2012 01:46 AM
Braveheart12JK I've seen that! I believe it's only available for the four door at this time.
06-01-2012 01:39 AM
BlackOpsJeep
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Originally Posted by Braveheart12JK View Post
I love the Wrangler. This is my third Wrangler, previous two were TJs with no power. One had no AC either. My JK has power package and I love it! I hated having to key into the vehicle in the winter with icy locks. It's just more convenient with a key fob. As a poster said earlier, I would get a power top option if it were available too!
there is actually a power top...
Rugged Ridge Jeep Power Top Demo - YouTube
06-01-2012 01:30 AM
Braveheart12JK I love the Wrangler. This is my third Wrangler, previous two were TJs with no power. One had no AC either. My JK has power package and I love it! I hated having to key into the vehicle in the winter with icy locks. It's just more convenient with a key fob. As a poster said earlier, I would get a power top option if it were available too!
06-01-2012 12:12 AM
bilbowbone My 75 year old father in law is visiting and got in my new jeep today and immediately noticed hand roll up windows and manual door locks and said "cool, good for you!"
05-31-2012 11:57 PM
Climb59 Let's see how the power locks and windows work if your crossing water
05-16-2012 09:32 PM
hoosiergirl it's pretty simple, and I find this fits MOST situations in life: there are two types of people in this world...those who get the joke, and those who don't.
05-16-2012 08:35 PM
IowaRaider
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Originally Posted by VaderJK12 View Post
My previous car that I had for nearly 10 years (9 yrs and 7 months), had power locks and windows and neither of them had to be replaced.

As far as the Jeep, I enjoy the ability to power all 4 windows down without moving from my seat. Now if I had a 2 door, that's a different story...crank windows for sure.
Might have gotten power if I had a 4 door but on a 2 door didn't see the point since they will be off most of the time when its nice enough to open them anyway. Moved on to the zipper version so glad I went manual as the full doors will only be on in winter...unless I sell them.
My kids already knew how to work them as I replaced the VW power ones with crank ones from the junk yard after replacing 6 motors in 8 years and it only has 4 doors. Got good at replacing window motors though.
05-16-2012 07:23 PM
Rick K The power package came with my Liberty and I like it just fine. But when I looked around to buy a Wrangler the only Rubicon I could find without the power package was 75 miles away. So I drove there and bought it! Like a lot of you, I figured that with the doors coming off a lot it would be easier without extra wires to fool around with and what good are power mirrors when they're home? And since I don't have a garage the doors don't stay off for long periods of time, so it's fewer plugs - or at least less complicated ones - to worry about crimping or cracking. This is the first vehicle I've had in - I don't know, 15 years or so - without power locks and windows and it's actually kind of fun without them.
05-16-2012 07:01 PM
firehawk
crank windows

hi, i have had 3 jeeps with crank windows, and 3 with power windows, it's just what u like, however the power package msrp$650,
invoice $590,,for that amount u get p/windows with auto down,
p/mirrors that are great & heated, p/locks, alarm system (saves money on
car insurance) self locking doors@25mph, this package is a great deal, however if it's not ur thing then get the standard crank windows..
all the best it is ur jeep!!!
05-16-2012 06:00 PM
teknoid Guess I'm stuck opening my windows the old fashioned way, until somebody invents power zippers.
05-16-2012 05:18 PM
IndyJeepMan I dont even have a crank my windows slide open lol.

If they are on the Jeep.
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