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04-09-2012 12:06 PM
12JKUR About test drives, I tested one 12 jkur auto w/4.10's and it felt like a dog. The one I bought had some bite unheard of in a stock jeep, which is everything I read.

My son bought an 11 jku not even a year ago. Hard top, auto it gets 20MPG on average w/50/50 highway/town driving. Pretty nice jeep, just slow, safe w/tranny cooler. No programmers for go-fast stuff now from my understanding, or perhaps ever, being a one year change from 07-12+

I traded a 2008 soft top 6 speed w/20k miles about 6 mos ago. It had e-disco and rear lockers. Not quite a Rubicon. It was great, came w/mesquite pin stripes and I added a few more , w/typical 07-10 issues (burning oil, clunk in driver and passenger pillars etc etc) for a 12 and got $20K.

08 was a blast but I won't look back. 12JKUR is the $hitz even at nearly 2X the price and 15mpg.
04-09-2012 12:12 AM
Casotakar1229
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Originally Posted by MudRunner View Post
Options-
2007: First year for JKs and had 4.10 gear ratio optional in non-rubicon models
2010-2012: New Soft top cable system, eliminated some of the leaking problems and is just easier
2011-2012: New Interior
2012: New engine and drive-train
Thing to look out for:
2007-2008?: They made 4x2 models
2007-2009?: They had fuel tank spillage problems when filling up
Some 2010: Being investigated for fire problems by NHTSA

I went with a 2011 because i got it for alot less than a 2012 and didnt really feel the Need for the new engine. It all depends on what your budget is and what you need/want. Good Luck
I didn't know some of that.

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Originally Posted by MTH View Post
^^Wow, that's a pretty good answer.

You need to testdrive the 2012 and a pre-2012 to decide whether the power improvements are worthwhile. There's no advice anyone can give other than that on that topic.

One of the major improvements of the 2012 is the new automatic transmission. So if you're a manual transmission driver, a pre-2012 may be more worthwhile depending on the cost savings of going used.
yes. test drive is always the best.
04-08-2012 10:52 PM
tropical36
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Originally Posted by snikt View Post
I was thinking about that actually, if you brought JKs and Subarus you could make some serious bucks here if you bought them in something like FL? Can't imagine they are that desirable there?
Actually they are everywhere and sell well. It's just the huge numbers and so many dealers that keeps them competitive.
04-08-2012 10:37 PM
snikt
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Originally Posted by tropical36 View Post
WOW, sounds like it's time to find one of those big truck haulers and deliver a few loads out there.
I was thinking about that actually, if you brought JKs and Subarus you could make some serious bucks here if you bought them in something like FL? Can't imagine they are that desirable there?
04-08-2012 10:31 PM
tropical36
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No it doesn't make sense. 2008 Unlimited Rubi with 100K miles would sell for 25K here
WOW, sounds like it's time to find one of those big truck haulers and deliver a few loads out there.
04-06-2012 08:55 PM
blackforestgreen i have 08 jku and a 12 2 door. the new 12 with auto trans is much better on the road. some have had a knocking problem, mine has been perfect with six thousand on the odo. the new engine has been around for on the grand cherokees for over a year and a half, most are very happy with the engine.
04-06-2012 08:52 PM
Ballandchain
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Originally Posted by Panther57 View Post
I've had a 97, an 04 and now a 12 .... I miss the fun that I had driving the 04, but I love everything about the 12. I almost bought an 11, but decided that since Jeep promised to offer the 12 at nearly the same cost of the 11 I would wait. Really, really glad I did.
My favorite was my 97 (bought brand new) 4 banger with half doors, 3 inch body lift (I know, but I was 20 and money was tight), and 33" tires. I've owned another 97, 01, 08 Rubi and now a 2012 Sahara. I guess it was the simplicity that I liked about it..
04-06-2012 08:48 PM
Ballandchain I would just test drive a 12 and 11. The dealership here in Richmond has an 11 Sahara with an advertised 4k off. I'm sure they would let it go for less than that since there has been a lot of 12's being sold and Its still on the lot. Hell, If that would have been there when i bought my 12 Sahara in December with the 4k off, I might have considered it.
04-06-2012 08:45 PM
ksdindy I actually got a fully loaded 12 JKU sport for the same price as an 11 Rubi with less equipment. Since off roading is a non issue for me, it was a no brainier
04-06-2012 08:40 PM
Panther57 I've had a 97, an 04 and now a 12 .... I miss the fun that I had driving the 04, but I love everything about the 12. I almost bought an 11, but decided that since Jeep promised to offer the 12 at nearly the same cost of the 11 I would wait. Really, really glad I did.
04-06-2012 05:22 PM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by mjmcmahon View Post
Thanks for all the feedback, guys! I'm looking at a number of different options and a number of you have hit the nails on the head: time to drive a few and see what I think. Still a little shocking that the older ones (even some 2008's) are still over the $25K mark!
But it's nice if you're the one selling.
04-06-2012 05:12 PM
mjmcmahon Thanks for all the feedback, guys! I'm looking at a number of different options and a number of you have hit the nails on the head: time to drive a few and see what I think. Still a little shocking that the older ones (even some 2008's) are still over the $25K mark!
04-06-2012 04:20 PM
Thorshammer7 I'm my honest opinion The 2009 JKU is by far the toughest, fastest, most nafarious Jeep, particulary in red rock crystal. With that being said I would look into the new more powerful 3.6 auto. Best of luck to ya.
04-06-2012 04:19 PM
snikt It also depends on where you are, it's stupid to buy a 2011 in my area for example since Jeeps hold their value like crazy. 2011 used are like the same price, sometimes more than new.

No it doesn't make sense. 2008 Unlimited Rubi with 100K miles would sell for 25K here
04-06-2012 04:10 PM
jyp I asked myself the same question this year. Thing is, there hasn't been any significant changes since 2008 until they changed the engine in 2012. So it's not so much a question of 2012 vs. 2011 but rather 2012 vs. 2008-2011. And in the latter (2008-2011) you also have to decide how much mileage and wear you're ok with. Wranglers can last forever so mileage on a wrangler counts for less in my mind than for another vehicle.

Anyways, if you do go with a non-2012, I'd say don't get a 2011. The only reason to get an older model of the same generation is to save money, and you'll save more with an identical 2009 or 2008. I'd would shop around until you find a jeep that is exactly what you want and has been used exclusively for bringing the kids to soccer practice and has mileage you're comfortable with... and if it's a 2009 or so, you'll save tons of money.

After 3 weeks of looking, i found a 2008 rubicon that had 40k miles and was in absolutely impeccable condition. Not a scratch.... and i mean on the skid plates too, clean- as- new interior, perfect maintenance record, bone stock, and with all the options i wanted. Paid about half of what i would have paid new.
04-06-2012 04:07 PM
tropical36
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Originally Posted by mjmcmahon View Post
Hi all -

I've been eye-balling Jeep Wranglers for a long time and with the birth of my wife and I's first child, I think it's time to make the switch from my 2009 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x King Cab to a Wrangler Unlimited. The question becomes whether the performance differences between the 2012 and 2011 year outweigh the significant cost difference of buying new versus used? I tried to research the differences between the various years, but didn't find a lot. Reading here, it's clear that the V6 in the 2012s is superior to the 2011's engine, but is it $5000 better??? What about a 2010?

Thanks in advance for all your help!
If it was me, I'd go for the 2010 or wait for a 2013 and if you read through enough of these threads, you might see where I'm coming from.
We have all the skid plates, no leaks so far, and no engine ticking, just for beginners. I don't even care for the interior changes on the 2011, either, but that's just me and I'm sure you'll be getting a lot of different opinions here.
04-06-2012 04:06 PM
MTH
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Originally Posted by MudRunner View Post
Options-
2007: First year for JKs and had 4.10 gear ratio optional in non-rubicon models
2010-2012: New Soft top cable system, eliminated some of the leaking problems and is just easier
2011-2012: New Interior
2012: New engine and drive-train
Thing to look out for:
2007-2008?: They made 4x2 models
2007-2009?: They had fuel tank spillage problems when filling up
Some 2010: Being investigated for fire problems by NHTSA

I went with a 2011 because i got it for alot less than a 2012 and didnt really feel the Need for the new engine. It all depends on what your budget is and what you need/want. Good Luck
^^Wow, that's a pretty good answer.

You need to testdrive the 2012 and a pre-2012 to decide whether the power improvements are worthwhile. There's no advice anyone can give other than that on that topic.

One of the major improvements of the 2012 is the new automatic transmission. So if you're a manual transmission driver, a pre-2012 may be more worthwhile depending on the cost savings of going used.
04-06-2012 03:59 PM
MudRunner Options-
2007: First year for JKs and had 4.10 gear ratio optional in non-rubicon models
2010-2012: New Soft top cable system, eliminated some of the leaking problems and is just easier
2011-2012: New Interior
2012: New engine and drive-train
Thing to look out for:
2007-2008?: They made 4x2 models
2007-2009?: They had fuel tank spillage problems when filling up
Some 2010: Being investigated for fire problems by NHTSA

I went with a 2011 because i got it for alot less than a 2012 and didnt really feel the Need for the new engine. It all depends on what your budget is and what you need/want. Good Luck
04-06-2012 03:29 PM
zuber I have a 2010jku, and I am approved finacially for a 2012. I went and drove and looked at the numbers. 8k is what I would pay, and for me its not worth it. If you can afford it and it makes sense financially, then go for the 12. I think they are better as far a power and interior upgrades. In my case its not worth $8k.

8k pays for a lot of upgrades.

You will be happy either way.
04-06-2012 03:20 PM
mjmcmahon
I think it's time for a Jeep...now WHICH YEAR??

Hi all -

I've been eye-balling Jeep Wranglers for a long time and with the birth of my wife and I's first child, I think it's time to make the switch from my 2009 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x King Cab to a Wrangler Unlimited. The question becomes whether the performance differences between the 2012 and 2011 year outweigh the significant cost difference of buying new versus used? I tried to research the differences between the various years, but didn't find a lot. Reading here, it's clear that the V6 in the 2012s is superior to the 2011's engine, but is it $5000 better??? What about a 2010?

Thanks in advance for all your help!

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