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09-01-2012 03:22 AM
1Topp
09-01-2012 02:31 AM
JKURz Wild "Why would you spend that kind of money on a bumper to then stubby it?"

Don't have a Jeep yet. Been looking at '12 JKUR autos and started thinking that a COD/MW3 solves some of my issues and as they are end of life there might be some deals ... so, the (inexpensive, no $$ left after buy) mod thinking started ... STUBBY!

Found these 2 threads that have pics of the AEV front bumper trimmed - 1st is apparently photoshopped, but the 2nd is very real.

1st = New AEV (Concept?) Bumper & Hood for real? - American Expedition Vehicles - Product Forums
2nd = AEV Stubby Bumper - American Expedition Vehicles - Product Forums

both look good to me
08-31-2012 01:20 PM
ndrugby I thought I saw pics once on another forum of the tube one stubbed. But why would you spend that kind of money on a bumper to then stubby it? Obviously it's your cash, so do what you like, but are there no stubbies that are similar?
08-31-2012 12:59 PM
JKURz Wild Has anyone 'stubbied' one of these bumpers?

I like the functionality, but the way the ends flip up to meet the fenders is kinda meh to me. I was thinking that trimming the ends would solve the look and add even more capability, but I haven't had any luck finding pictures.
08-31-2012 10:53 AM
bwbrown1
Use this to paint the white cap

Textured Black Touch Up Paint - Body / Exterior - Shop By Category

Perfect Match!
08-31-2012 12:08 AM
Pompie
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Originally Posted by NoTasker View Post
I installed the AEV Premium bumper with a Warn M-8000-s winch. I had considered the 9.5cti-s winch but it was $400 more than the M-8000-s. In my mind, the savings just went to other mods and I still got a quality winch.
Man, I love that AEV front and back bumper - I have 'em both - I just need to pain that darn bright white water cap black.

Trying to educate myself about synthetic rope, which it looks like you have on your Warn. I read that the synthetic rope breaks down in sunlight and needs to be covered. Did your rope come with any info about this requirement?

Thanks!
08-30-2012 02:35 PM
max-1
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Originally Posted by NoTasker View Post
I installed the AEV Premium bumper with a Warn M-8000-s winch. I had considered the 9.5cti-s winch but it was $400 more than the M-8000-s. In my mind, the savings just went to other mods and I still got a quality winch.
Hey No Tasker,
How do you like that LED light bar on your AEV? Can it be used On-road at all or is it just too bright for that and is really limited for Off-road use only? Also were you able to use the AEV mounting holes or?
Thanks
05-25-2012 05:56 AM
Glitchy
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Originally Posted by ndrugby View Post
You're good to go on everything until the winch delete plate, for many reasons. You need access to disengage the motor. You don't want the winch trapped in there with the amount of heat it creates. And you will want access to the line to make sure it gets rolled onto the winch drum correctly.

I considered the same thing since I have a winch delete plate that was given to me. Then I thought about it and came up with those reasons not to do it.
That all makes sense

Thanks

Jeff
05-24-2012 09:16 PM
ndrugby
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Originally Posted by Glitchy View Post
Hi all!

Need some input.

I'm brand new and don't know nuttin. Got my 2012 JKUR last Friday.

Planning on ordering AEV bumpers tomorrow.

For the winch after reading and looking at at lot of pictures, does anyone know if I could pull off the following:

Mount a VR8000-s in the AEV front bumper, mount the controller in the engine compartment, route a plug for the controller somewhere to use as needed and get a Warn "remote(wireless) controller? and to finish off still install the winch delete plate over the winch?

Thanks

Jeff
You're good to go on everything until the winch delete plate, for many reasons. You need access to disengage the motor. You don't want the winch trapped in there with the amount of heat it creates. And you will want access to the line to make sure it gets rolled onto the winch drum correctly.

I considered the same thing since I have a winch delete plate that was given to me. Then I thought about it and came up with those reasons not to do it.
05-24-2012 06:34 PM
Glitchy Hi all!

Need some input.

I'm brand new and don't know nuttin. Got my 2012 JKUR last Friday.

Planning on ordering AEV bumpers tomorrow.

For the winch after reading and looking at at lot of pictures, does anyone know if I could pull off the following:

Mount a VR8000-s in the AEV front bumper, mount the controller in the engine compartment, route a plug for the controller somewhere to use as needed and get a Warn "remote(wireless) controller? and to finish off still install the winch delete plate over the winch?

Thanks

Jeff
04-28-2012 03:21 PM
Duffyc04 Nice choice buddy, that's awesome equipment!
04-28-2012 10:52 AM
ndrugby
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Originally Posted by Duffyc04
Rugby - What winch did you end up going with? If you opted for the VR, what's your impression of the quality? Tried it out yet?
Ended up with M8000-s. haven't gotten to try it yet.
04-28-2012 10:47 AM
Duffyc04 Rugby - What winch did you end up going with? If you opted for the VR, what's your impression of the quality? Tried it out yet?
04-27-2012 09:24 PM
ndrugby Here are some pictures. This is the section. If you look through the hole you can the nut that you need to attach to the bolt that comes up from the bottom of the skid plate. That piece is not touching the skid plate or interfering with it in any way, so I think the removal is just for installing the nut (you have to do it on both sides).

The last picture is of the hole in the front of the skid that I went through to secure the nut.

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04-27-2012 09:01 PM
ndrugby
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Originally Posted by max-1 View Post
I thought that there was a mechanical interference with the skid!
So you did not have to do this;
It's not mechanical. You actually need the side open in order to reach in for the nut that goes into the bolts in the final step. You have to cut both sides. I have no issues with it the way it is.

I made it work somehow, but it was a real PITA.
04-27-2012 07:41 PM
max-1
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Originally Posted by ndrugby View Post
Squeezed behind it and it doesn't move at all



I didn't cut the frame. Since I didn't have the tools I needed I figured I would try to make it work. It cost me some serious time, but I finally made it work.

I used a 14MM Flex head wrench. Then used one of my kids' Elmers's glue stick to put some glue on the nut to keep it in the flex head. Worked the head in through the hole in the front of the Skid plate and then had to try multiple times to get the bolt threaded into the nut. It finally worked!

I thought that there was a mechanical interference with the skid!
So you did not have to do this;
04-27-2012 06:52 PM
ndrugby
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Originally Posted by KarlG View Post
Is the plate just squeezed between the hawse fairlead and the bumper or mounted to a bracket or mounted through license plate holes and fairlead?

It doesn't hang as low as parts of the suspension or pumpkin, so you may get by for quite awhile, I hope.

The last time I trailed before the winch, I had to be winched twice over an obstacle, once coming and once going. After the winch, haven't needed a winch on the last two rides
Squeezed behind it and it doesn't move at all

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Originally Posted by max-1 View Post
That bumper just completes the front end IMO!
Did you have to modify the frame as indicated in the installation guide to install the skid plate?
Thanks
I didn't cut the frame. Since I didn't have the tools I needed I figured I would try to make it work. It cost me some serious time, but I finally made it work.

I used a 14MM Flex head wrench. Then used one of my kids' Elmers's glue stick to put some glue on the nut to keep it in the flex head. Worked the head in through the hole in the front of the Skid plate and then had to try multiple times to get the bolt threaded into the nut. It finally worked!
04-27-2012 06:27 PM
jmcd On my 2011 JKUR I was very impressed with the instructions, followed them to the T, and the fit was perfect.
04-27-2012 05:37 PM
max-1
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Originally Posted by ndrugby View Post
Got my bumper and installed it same day. Love it.

It took about 6 hours to get the bumper and winch plate on and another hour to get the skid plate on. A few things to note for installing the AEV bumper.

1. Don't fully tighten/torgue the tow hooks and end brackets until the bumper is on. You can access them still at that point. That helps with alignment to the bumper later.

2. Relocating the vaccum pump was a bit of a struggle until I disconnected it completely. Even then, it fits in a tight spot.

3. The instructions are incomplete, the internet is your friend.

4. Having a second person would have helped, but it's possible with one person.

5. It takes time to line things up really well. When putting on the bumper, you need to tighten the bolts in phases making sure that the previously tightened bolts didn't move the holes for the fairlead.

I have a winch delete plate I'm picking up soon (a take off from someone else). I'll use it until I decide on/save up for a winch.




That bumper just completes the front end IMO!
Did you have to modify the frame as indicated in the installation guide to install the skid plate?
Thanks
04-27-2012 04:44 PM
KarlG Is the plate just squeezed between the hawse fairlead and the bumper or mounted to a bracket or mounted through license plate holes and fairlead?

It doesn't hang as low as parts of the suspension or pumpkin, so you may get by for quite awhile, I hope.

The last time I trailed before the winch, I had to be winched twice over an obstacle, once coming and once going. After the winch, haven't needed a winch on the last two rides
04-27-2012 04:28 PM
Rwilliamjacob Well AEV actually makes the bumpers and the hood for the MW i think they actually make them with AEV right in the ohio plant now. Thought that was kind of cool. Looks good on yours.
04-27-2012 04:14 PM
ndrugby
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Originally Posted by Rwilliamjacob
isnt that the same one they're putting on the MW3's i should know this i sell em haha
Yup. Was looking for a front tubeless bumper when they first posted pics of the MW3. Decided then I'd wait to get one when AEV started selling them.
04-27-2012 04:08 PM
Rwilliamjacob isnt that the same one they're putting on the MW3's i should know this i sell em haha
04-27-2012 03:52 PM
Posts On Percocet Sometimes I wish I kept my cars long enough to do mods like this. You guys have awesome set ups.
04-27-2012 03:34 PM
ndrugby And the winch is in! Working on which solution I want for relocating the license plate. It's fine for now, until I go out and hit something with it and rip it off.

04-21-2012 07:44 PM
ndrugby Looks like it's designed for roller fairlead. From their install instructions:

ATTENTION:
• THIS FLIP-UP LICENSE PLATE HOLDER WAS DESIGNED TO
WORK WITH STANDARD ROLLER-STYLE WINCH FAIRLEADS
04-21-2012 07:34 PM
KarlG
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Originally Posted by ndrugby View Post
Thanks! I saw this yesterday. Adding it to your options. We'll see what I end up with.

https://www.tuffyproducts.com/p-426-...te-holder.aspx
Looks like another good option if you go with a fairlead instead of a hawse. It might even work with a hawse or mounted to the light bracket mounting holes or just mounted to holes drilled above the hawse. At $16, you can always get one to play with and if it doesn't work, put it up for sale and not be out much $$$. You could also email them and ask if their product works with a hawse lead.
04-21-2012 06:51 PM
ndrugby
Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlG

Your new bumper looks great and the tubeless bumper has more grill clearance room that the Premium tubed until all the "old stock" bumpers are sold by the Vendors and replaced with the newly redesigned Premium hooped bumper that AEV has had in production since @ early march which has the same grill clearance cut out as the COD/tubeless bumper.

As far as plate mounting, we are required in NY to have front plates. You basically have two options. If you end up with a wire rope winch with conventional fairleads, you can just buy two maglight mounting brackets and mount your plates to the back and they will clip to the rollers on the fairlead.

If you go with a synthetic rope you have two options.

Option 1-replace metal roller leads with Daystar plastic rollers and use Mag clips as per above:

Option 2-if you go with an aluminum hawse, Warrior Products makes a hawse lead mounting bracket that mounts between the hawse lead and bumper and uses knobs to attach the plate.

Be aware some hawses are too thick to work with the Warrior bracket and you have to do some minor tabbing which using the WP bracket and screws as a base, and mounting plate can work. My Warn hawse lead that came with the 9.5cti-s was too thick to use the bracket and here are some pics of the solution.
Thanks! I saw this yesterday. Adding it to your options. We'll see what I end up with.

https://www.tuffyproducts.com/p-426-...te-holder.aspx
04-21-2012 06:21 PM
KarlG
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Originally Posted by ndrugby View Post
I've been getting creative thinking about where to mount my plate after winch install. Sometimes the simplest solution is the best: the fairlead. Looks like that's where I'll put it.
Your new bumper looks great and the tubeless bumper has more grill clearance room that the Premium tubed until all the "old stock" bumpers are sold by the Vendors and replaced with the newly redesigned Premium hooped bumper that AEV has had in production since @ early march which has the same grill clearance cut out as the COD/tubeless bumper.

As far as plate mounting, we are required in NY to have front plates. You basically have two options. If you end up with a wire rope winch with conventional fairleads, you can just buy two maglight mounting brackets and mount your plates to the back and they will clip to the rollers on the fairlead.




If you go with a synthetic rope you have two options.

Option 1-replace metal roller leads with Daystar plastic rollers and use Mag clips as per above:




Option 2-if you go with an aluminum hawse, Warrior Products makes a hawse lead mounting bracket that mounts between the hawse lead and bumper and uses knobs to attach the plate.



Be aware some hawses are too thick to work with the Warrior bracket and you have to do some minor tabbing which using the WP bracket and screws as a base, and mounting plate can work. My Warn hawse lead that came with the 9.5cti-s was too thick to use the bracket and here are some pics of the solution.


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04-21-2012 02:40 PM
NoTasker JKashat - PM sent.
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