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11-02-2013 05:34 PM
NFRs2000NYC Check out my thread

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/don...ad-365322.html
11-02-2013 08:07 AM
Silverback51 I removed the Freedom panels and then applied a very light film of Vaseline to the seals after I cleaned them. Solved my leak problems.
11-02-2013 07:49 AM
G5peter
Leaking roof - new Wrangler 2Door UK

We are very disappointed.

The roof leaks badly on our brand new Wrangler but not all the time, it seems to depend on the incline we are on? Strange and disappointing.

It has been to the dealer 3 times. No solution yet.

St Albans, UK
04-01-2013 08:42 AM
Apollo-USAF I just bought a 2008 jk Sahara a month ago, taken the top of maybe twice since I bought it and have only had a few drops of water come in where the two front panels meet above the rearview mirror. Iv taken it to a high pressure car wash a couple times and its rained/snowed a couple times since I bought it as well and I haven't had any other problems. It rained last night and this morning on my way to work I heard water sloshing around in the sound bar, and saw water dropping out o the passenger side screw in the sound bar. Iv don't know why the roof would leak that much all of a sudden, or how I'm soup posed to get the water out of the sound bar. Iv yet to take off the roof to investigate further because I'm at work at the moment. Any advice?
09-08-2012 10:10 PM
nosvet I had the same leak since i drove it off the leak. It went to the dealer in GA 3 times with no luck and 3 times now here in Fla and they finally changed all the top gaskets and its finally not leaking. Make then find it and fix it.
05-02-2012 01:14 PM
Pattynole Up Hill Bill: thanks for sharing that manual. I've not had any problems (have taken my top of numerous times) but I saved the manual for future "in case" times.
05-02-2012 01:10 PM
adg44 I took a closer look at my top where it meets the windshield, and it appears that the driver's side panel sits slightly higher and further back than the passenger side panel. I removed it and reinstalled again, yet it still sits the same way.

Perhaps this is where my leak is coming from?
04-22-2012 09:58 PM
IBgeocaching I have only had my panels off once, last fall. Went through the rest of fall, winter with lots of rain and wet snow, car washes, nothing. Last week after an all night rain I had some leakage. Didn`t touched it and have had a couple of all day rains since and nothing. ??? We did have a temp change from high 70`s back to normal with highs in the high 30`s.
04-22-2012 09:34 PM
EchoThruMe Yup. Your under warranty and the dealer will fix the issue. You just need to hope it lasts. Many jeeps leak unfortunately but not all and not always. Good luck pal.
04-22-2012 09:32 PM
J.Thrasher
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Originally Posted by JeeperSter
I cant see how you drive without the screws? in my 11JK i under tightened them and the panels rattled driving down the road.. snugged em some more and they have been fine
Maybe its different for different years/models
I'm not sure if the freedom panels are the same between 11and 12 or 2 and 4 door. I only use the latches and they snug the panels down in the front, back to the hardtop and middle to each other. No rattle and no leak.
04-22-2012 09:18 PM
JeeperSter
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Originally Posted by J.Thrasher View Post
My arctic leaked right onto the nav. I removed and reinstalled and did not put the big soundbar screws back in. No leaks since. 11000 miles ago.
I cant see how you drive without the screws? in my 11JK i under tightened them and the panels rattled driving down the road.. snugged em some more and they have been fine
Maybe its different for different years/models
04-22-2012 09:12 PM
jk'n The screws help keep the roof in place in a rollover.
04-22-2012 09:08 PM
DblDuece
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Originally Posted by adg44 View Post
Well I thought I had fixed the leaks just by removing and reinstalling the top panels, but it has rained for the last two days and It is leaking again above the windshield where the two panels meet.
It might be the actual order you are securing the tops. Every jeep is special in their own way so you might have to figure out the best way for yours. I personally place the passenger side on first, seating it properly and clamping the windshield down, then side. The rears are always last and most of the time I don't even insert the screws. I believe screwing them in too tight will make the front looser.....possibly where your leak is coming from. Let us know.
04-22-2012 08:52 PM
Kelsey73 I had a small leak that has actually gone away by removing the panels and cleaning the seals thoroughly with 303 a few times and carefully reseating.
04-22-2012 08:44 PM
jk'n My first 08 JKU Sahara leaked. Chrysler owns that one now. The one they replaced it with leaked in the exact same spot. Whatever they did to it on their second attempt to fix it did the trick. I have had the panels off and on now for almost 4 years and no leaks. I have dual tops. I'm happy with both now. I can't give details of the buyback so please don't ask about that part.

Now that my jeep is out of warranty, I will fix any leaks that crop up. I don't expect any to for a long time because I maintain the seals using a product by Turtle Wax called Ice interior cleaner. It keeps the seals clean, looking black and lubricated (silicone lube I think). Whatever is in the stuff, it makes the seals work well.

While the jeep was under warranty and since it leaked from delivery, I had Chrysler take care of it for me. Some people try to solve the problem themselves. New jeeps shouldn't leak upon delivery. I went that way.
04-22-2012 08:05 PM
Iamjrad79 I have a '12 JKU and remove my tops all the time, never had a leak. Yesterday I put my tops back on without the soundbar screws and went through a carwash without any problems. I'm careful about making sure they seat properly when I put them back on, but I've never had a leak.
04-22-2012 07:57 PM
Rubicon_Jim Removed my freedom panels many times, no leaks and I put the sound bar screws back in at medium tension. Mines a '12 jkur
04-22-2012 07:49 PM
adg44 Well I thought I had fixed the leaks just by removing and reinstalling the top panels, but it has rained for the last two days and It is leaking again above the windshield where the two panels meet.
03-02-2012 06:52 PM
Ronk
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Originally Posted by Up Hill Bill

Yeap, Jeep knows about leaking tops. They even published this manual on how to fix them:

http://www.jeep-club.net/graphics/ma..._Leaks_All.pdf

I had the same freedom top center seal leak the OP has and was able to fix it by carefully cleaning all the top seals with 303 Aerospace Protectant and VERY careful attention to detail when reinstalling the tops. It took a few tries, but no more leaks.... We had snow, then hail, then very heavy rain over the last few days, and absolutely not a drop of water in the Jeep!

Try to fix it yourself before resorting to the dealer. Many here have reported worse leaking after the dealer's "leak specialist" messed with it!
I looked over the leak manual and fixed my leak. It rained all day and no water.
03-02-2012 01:00 PM
CiDZillA
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Originally Posted by adg44 View Post
OK, if you guys are leaving them out and not having leaks, then that tells me that over-tightening the bolts can adversely affect the seals (perhaps causing them to be too compressed).

I have no proof but I think this is correct. I have a '10 with Freedom Top. I've had leaks before where the two front pieces meet. I removed the panels and replaced them, making sure the rubber was lined up right, and only screwed in the sound bar bolts til they were snug, not super tight.
03-02-2012 12:59 PM
wrangler0 My 2 year old 2010 Sahara has never leaked (knocks on wood) yet. I've removed the front panels several times and cleaned off the seals before reinstalling them and made sure things were seated properly.
03-02-2012 12:54 PM
adg44 OK, if you guys are leaving them out and not having leaks, then that tells me that over-tightening the bolts can adversely affect the seals (perhaps causing them to be too compressed).
03-02-2012 12:09 PM
pdubois64 Actually I did leave those big sound bar screws out as well with no issues.
03-02-2012 12:08 PM
J.Thrasher My arctic leaked right onto the nav. I removed and reinstalled and did not put the big soundbar screws back in. No leaks since. 11000 miles ago.
03-02-2012 11:40 AM
pdubois64
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Originally Posted by adg44 View Post
Well I removed the front two panels yesterday as it was very warm, and then reinstalled them last night. Perhaps the panels weren't sitting perfectly from the factory and that allowed the slight water leak.

How tight am I supposed to screw the bolts into the rear (sound bar) area? I assume this doesn't want to be over or under tightened, as then It can tweak how the panels are sitting.
I used to tighten them by hand as tight as I could. Then after driving around awhile I'd tighten them again.
03-02-2012 11:04 AM
adg44 Well I removed the front two panels yesterday as it was very warm, and then reinstalled them last night. Perhaps the panels weren't sitting perfectly from the factory and that allowed the slight water leak.

How tight am I supposed to screw the bolts into the rear (sound bar) area? I assume this doesn't want to be over or under tightened, as then It can tweak how the panels are sitting.
03-02-2012 06:38 AM
pdubois64 I had my 09 for 2 years and never had a leak either. The panels were off many times and I never paid any attention to how I put them back on. I'm not sure what's going on with these ones that leak, hope you can get it fixed. My 2012 is too new to tell yet, but I've washed it once and no leaks. No rain here yet, still snow.
03-02-2012 06:31 AM
Ballandchain Out of 5 Jeeps, none has leaked......
03-02-2012 12:49 AM
flyinion
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Originally Posted by treames192 View Post
And if u don't want it to leak, never remove the top.
That's just not true. My hardtop has never leaked since I took delivery in January. It's been through rain and pressure washer type touchless car washes and not a single drop comes in. I've had the freedom panels off multiple times in between the water events and have also popped the seals on the rear though I did not fully remove it from the Jeep.

From what I've read around here since I started looking way back in September is that in most cases the leaks can be fixed by either the dealer or the user themselves. There are for sure cases where someone just has a bad Jeep or top or something, but to say never to take the top off if you don't want it to leak is bogus IMO.
03-01-2012 11:41 PM
treames192 Well the good news is, your jeep is band new and under warranty. Take it to a dealer and have hem fix it. Even then it will probably still leak. And if u don't want it to leak, never remove the top.
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