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06-30-2008 09:52 AM
dave@rokmen
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Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
Nico, i am pretty sure rokmen make 8-9" tall lifts. Will they be fine with that and some 44s? I mean they are made specifically for jeeps

To clarify this statement above - Rokmen/we do not make complete lifts, let alone any 8-9" lifts.
06-29-2008 09:29 PM
mr4x4 I read that before

along with a driveshaft from an explorer cut down to jeep size with the sye kit the guy got it cut down and ballanced for $150
06-29-2008 09:14 PM
bpowa the link you posted said stock is 90a.. which truck did you specifically pull yours off of?^^ not a bad upgrade..
06-29-2008 08:37 PM
slf41002
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
only a 136A alternator?
i have a mean green 200A alternator...

btw. how much A does the stock 4.0L TJ alternator have?
Yeah you Germans must be a little more well off than I am I had to get mine from a bone yard Actually I did look a time or two at the Mean Green but didn't really want to upgrade my wiring also.They recommend to change the wires going to the starter and the one going from the batt to the alt with more than the 136 amps.I think the stock was like 75 amps.I think???
06-29-2008 08:21 PM
nicolas-eric only a 136A alternator?
i have a mean green 200A alternator...

btw. how much A does the stock 4.0L TJ alternator have?
06-29-2008 07:22 PM
slf41002 Mine came from a 98 Ram 1500.Here is a link to the web page I went by.Mine 136 alt was the same one this guy used same part # an all.http://www.bc4x4.com/tech/2004/jeepalt/
06-29-2008 05:35 PM
Triple88a nice, Sherman did you get a jeep specific alternator or did you yank one off a durango or whatever fits?
06-29-2008 05:26 PM
slf41002
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Originally Posted by mr4x4 View Post
the taurus fan was $20 at the local bone yard and the rest of the cost was for wireing it in

as far as casino's go I live in a little town about 60miles from vegas and I hate going into those places they smell like a giant ashtray and I dont gamble
Yeah I know what you are saying.Living even that close to Vegas not gambling is a good plan I would say.There are 2 gambling boats within 50 miles from me and I have been to each one once just to say I have been there and done that.
Also ..Hey Trip by the way I got my 136 amp alternator in today.I can turn the stereo up past 30 with all my lights on and use my winch without holding the gas pedal down at all now.before I had to give it gas just to us the winch with everything else off.So far so good.
06-29-2008 12:43 PM
Triple88a lol mr4x4 smoking in public buildings is banned here in illinois, imagine you go into a bar and there is no smoke anywhere in there. lol now thats one feeling you dont forget.
06-29-2008 12:33 AM
mr4x4
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Originally Posted by slf41002 View Post
Were did you steal it???? The Jeeps sitting outside the casino is easy targets huh!!!

the taurus fan was $20 at the local bone yard and the rest of the cost was for wireing it in

as far as casino's go I live in a little town about 60miles from vegas and I hate going into those places they smell like a giant ashtray and I dont gamble
06-28-2008 09:49 PM
slf41002
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Originally Posted by mr4x4 View Post
I did my E-fan was a total of $65 that was including the fan
Were did you steal it???? The Jeeps sitting outside the casino is easy targets huh!!!
06-28-2008 09:44 PM
mr4x4
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Originally Posted by bpowa View Post
damn nico,, what do you do for a living? lots of mods.. tripp and I are trying to do this mod for less than a 100. and the kit you ordered is 300.

I did my E-fan was a total of $65 that was including the fan
06-28-2008 09:15 PM
nicolas-eric rokmen doesnīt ship to germany.

dont laugh...
i talked to a buddy who works as a car inspector some weeks ago and asked him about a fabtech 6" and a 5.5" rockkrawler longarm suspension.
he said that this would be ok. he only needs to see that the parts are strong enough and manufactured in a professional way.

perhaps sometimes in the future when i have 3000$ too much....

06-28-2008 09:08 PM
Triple88a Nico, i am pretty sure rokmen make 8-9" tall lifts. Will they be fine with that and some 44s? I mean they are made specifically for jeeps
06-28-2008 08:51 PM
nicolas-eric 1. my TJ is only 2 years and only 11000 mls old. i donīt want to install a used 15 y.o. part into such a new jeep.

2. the german car inspectors donīt like to see that you install parts that are not produced for the car. our cars are inspected all 2 years and i donīt want to uninstall more and more parts before this inspection...

06-28-2008 08:46 PM
bpowa damn nico,, what do you do for a living? lots of mods.. tripp and I are trying to do this mod for less than a 100. and the kit you ordered is 300.
06-28-2008 08:16 PM
nicolas-eric thank you !!!

but the fan i wanted to buy is already sold. i ordered a flex-a-lite black magic x-treme fan yesterday.
06-26-2008 01:00 PM
mr4x4
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Originally Posted by bpowa View Post
IS THE TauRuS fan noisy/loud?
no you wont even notice the noise from inside the jeep


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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
So what happens if it burns up on you? Game over on the trail or is there a back up plan?

the electric fan cools better on the trail then the mechanical fan does
I did this swap over a year ago and it still works great

if it stoped working on the trail or traffic you will just have to watch the temp untill you get it home just like if the mechanical fan clutch goes out you lose your cooling ability
06-26-2008 12:40 PM
Triple88a YOu might be able to run the vehicle on the high way without a fan so.. I just finished my swap last night and i'm satisfied with it. My work is 10 minutes away and my fan just turned on while i was pulling into the work place parking. Same thing on the way back. It just turned on as i was parking and currently its 85ish degrees here. You WILL need a fan when idling though. No question about it.

GRN without a fan, my jeep over heated while just idling in front of my house at like 70 degrees ambient temperature. No ac, no load of any kind, just idling in neutral.

To remove the stock fan you might need to hit it couple of times. Simply put the wrench on there and turn it towards the passenger side so when standing on the bumper and you're looking at the engine you will turn the wrench to the left. If it spins, put the wrench on and hit it with a hammer to the left to break it loose. No do not do the little 4 screws as thats for the actual fan. You want to remove both. I found it easy to undo the 2 lower screws on the plastic shroud. Then loosen the fan up, then undo the 2 upper bolts on the shroud and undo the fan and at last remove both of them together. Be careful not to damage the radiator once the fan breaks loose... dont drop the fan basically.
06-26-2008 08:07 AM
GrnTJ
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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
So what happens if it burns up on you? Game over on the trail or is there a back up plan?
Vehicles can run without a fan. If it stopped working you would very likely still be fine unless it was very hot outside. The only time a fan really does anything more than suck up a little horsepower (mechanical fan) is when your sitting in heavy traffic on a hot day. Or, for Jeeps, crawling at a slow speed in the heavy heat. The fan is basically a backup to make sure things stay cool but the engine will generally not over heat if you dont have one. I had a professor in college who ran an engine for 10 years in his truck with no fan and he only had it overheat on him a handful of times. And if that happens all ya really gotta do is open the hood and let it sit for a sec to cool down. But still, I would recommend running a fan no matter what. Electric fans are the best way to go.
06-26-2008 07:45 AM
4Jeepn So what happens if it burns up on you? Game over on the trail or is there a back up plan?
06-26-2008 05:02 AM
bpowa IS THE TauRuS fan noisy/loud?
06-26-2008 03:17 AM
mr4x4 heres a pic of the fuses I used they are those maxi fuses


and the relays I used a 75 amp relay for the high speed and a 45/55 amp relay for the low speed
06-26-2008 03:12 AM
mr4x4 heres a write up
http://www.nakedjeep.com/Projects/TFan/TFan02.html

heres a small write up in a CJ
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?p=96437

heres one with a wiring diagram going into an older tj with a 4 cylinder
http://www.creeperjeepers.org/Electr...2.5L%20TJ.html
06-26-2008 03:05 AM
nicolas-eric A wiring diagram would help me very much.
I didn't wire up an electrical fan in a car before.
06-26-2008 03:03 AM
mr4x4
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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
All that sounds very gooid to me.
Do you have something a wiring diagram?
Can i only use a switch for changing the fan speed? Or does that work automatically?
Can I use the stock thermostat or do I need another one?


you need a diffrent thermostat
and you have to use the switch to change the fan speed

I can find you a wiring diagram but I dont have one

its kinda like wiring up two fans into on switch
06-26-2008 02:51 AM
nicolas-eric All that sounds very gooid to me.
Do you have something a wiring diagram?
Can i only use a switch for changing the fan speed? Or does that work automatically?
Can I use the stock thermostat or do I need another one?

06-26-2008 02:43 AM
mr4x4 its easy to remove the stock fan it took me about 3-4 hours to install the electric fan most of it was wiring
the second only took me about 2 hours

to remove the stock fan you put a big wrench on the big nut at the base of the fan thats were it conects to the water pump and you break it loose
then remove your fan shroud bolts and pull the fan shroud and the fan at the same time
then you just start to trim the taurus fan to fit bolt it up and wire it in

I wired the fans to an on off on switch so I can turn it off for water crossings
on the low speed setting I wired it to a thermostat so it turns on when the jeep warms up to a certain temp I only turn the high speed on for additional cooling (I havent had to use the high speed yet and its been around 110 out here in the day)
06-26-2008 02:10 AM
nicolas-eric Hey thazt looks good. Itīs the 3.8L fan with 2500 and 4500 cfm.

How difficult is it to remove the stock fan?
06-26-2008 02:04 AM
slf41002 There is a couple more write up about it but I will have to find them.Well there not lost just me,I can't find the bookmarks for them but here is one

http://www.jeephorizons.com/tech/fan/
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