|12-25-2013 03:51 PM|
Update to my 2012 Sahara intermittent wiper problem: It's been a few weeks since they replaced the entire signal stalk. So far so good. Based on others' posts, it looks like that was the problem all along.
To provide some background... I've had this problem for almost two years since purchased new in 2012. The first time I took it in, they dismissed it as "unable to replicate." Continued to occur, so convinced them to replace TIPM regardless of not being able to replicate the problem. That didn't work. Losing my patience, I took it in again a few weeks ago and they claimed they were able to replicate the problem this time and replaced the turn signal stalk.
Incidentally, now I'm getting a Check Engine light (coded as P0304), but this is most likely unrelated and a different thread.
Love my JK, but slowly falling out of love with all these time-sucking trips to the dealer. Still within standard warranty, but I'm feeling like a genius for having purchased the extended factory warranty.
|12-07-2013 10:42 PM|
Has anyone heard of this trick (please correct me if not right). I started up my 2012 Wrangler and the windshield wipers came on and I could not turn them off (they were already in the off position). After some research, my husband texted me this trick he found online:
1. Turn off the Jeep, take key out and then turn it back on.
2. Pull out the fog lamp switch to the "on" position.
3. Turn the wipers on and then off.
It worked! They turned off.
My problem is that we could not find the solution online and I am not certain these are the exact steps. I am kicking myself for not writing them down. Let me know if you have success or if the steps are different.
|12-06-2013 05:14 PM|
A multi-function switch takes about 10 minutes to replace. I swapped it when my wipers went to one speed and could not find the return to home. Turns out it was the wiper motor. I swapped it. I now have a smaller problem. The wipers whip back a couple of inches as it returns the home. i will figure that one out after it warms up a bit.
|12-06-2013 03:08 PM|
So I have been following this thread for a few months because I have this problem on my 2011 JKU since I purchased it used (Jeep dealership) in April 2013) and I am glad to see that 1) I am not completely alone in this phantom issue 2) some of you at least have finally been able to get it fixed.
My symptoms are the same, wipers turn on randomly. Mostly at ignition, but also during turning (with or without me activating turn signal), sometimes seem to be triggered by some other dash light going on like low fuel light, Hi-beam, etc. Usually when it is stuck in this "shorting out" mode at initial ignition it is always paired with: interior lights won't activate, fog lights flicker randomly, hi-beams flicker randomly, dash illumination is not adjustable and is set at lowest value, washer fluid sprays randomly, wipers won't turn off or speed up if I activate them intentionally. Sometimes I am stuck in this state for several minutes before things settle out and restarting ignition doesn't seem to clear it, just have to let it clear itself.
I took it in finally in August because, in addition, the cruise control started to rarely respond. They replaced the Clock Spring which fixed the cruise control however, did nothing for the wiper issue. Finally took it back in this week and dealer is telling me that there are no error codes therefore there is nothing they can do. I have quoted this forum trying desperately for them to at least replace something (i.e. multi-function switch as many have mentioned) but they keep telling me they can't replace parts without an error code. I keep making the argument that is BS since by that logic, even if they watch it freak out in their shop but no error code is logged then they wouldn't be able to replace anything.
The service manager is very nice and being very professional and I am trying to return that courtesy while still standing my ground...it will continue to fail and never log an error code so it makes no sense to me to do NOTHING. I'm waiting on today's update from them to see if they got it to freak out in front of them so that maybe they will finally take action.
Turns out also that my "used" JKU was a dealer "buyback", now I am worried that the previous owner had the same battle and got fed up with it...however, I'll never know, they are telling me they are not allowed to disclose details of the buyback.
Good luck to others with this issue, thanks to those that have shared their battles.
...final note, love my JKU, had a 97 TJ for 10 years and I finally feel normal again having given it up in 2006, despite this headache.
|11-30-2013 06:06 PM|
|GeckoJK||Took my Jeep in for some service and mentioned the wiper issue. They replaced my turn signal stock as it seemed to have a problem. So far it hasn't happened since it was replaced.|
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|11-24-2013 11:43 AM|
|Boddah||I didnt read the whole thread so forgive me if the problem has been solved, but after reading the OP I had the EXACT same problem in my 3500 Dodge ram. The solution was to change out the whole turn signal stalk and module. On the dodge it was a pain in the ass to do.|
|11-24-2013 11:19 AM|
|blkunlmtd9||So after fighting with service dept, they hooked me up and changed both the signal and the wiper tree. NOW, my rear driver side signal is out and it's not the bulb.... Fml.|
|11-15-2013 10:41 AM|
|blkunlmtd9||Is the TIPM what the service advisor calls the control module, or is that a different part? I was having issues with my clock where it would slow down a minute or so every day, and there was a bulletin out for it. they changed my "control module" and that is around the time when i started having these issues....just a coincidence, or could I have gotten a faulty module installed???|
|11-14-2013 06:27 PM|
|Xena1||This is all happening because Chrysler is buying cheap electronic components from China to boost profits! Quality is going down faster than a lead balloon! They will regret this when thousands move on to a quality oriented auto maker!|
|11-14-2013 12:57 AM|
|Mclunk||So I got it back today, they replaced the wiper multi-function switch. They said they found that it was faulty, only time will tell if it is "fixed". I have to take it back in so they can replace the heater core, which was plugged with casting sand.|
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|11-13-2013 01:05 PM|
|Mclunk||My jeep is in the shop right now, when I talked to the service advisor I got the impression they knew all about the wiper issues. Hopefully they do something.|
|11-12-2013 09:11 AM|
|blkunlmtd9||Im having the same exact problem with my 2012 JKU sport. starting going off once when I hit the turn signal....now they just take a few swipes out of nowhere as well!! Took it into the shop and they said they couldn't reproduce it and had no error codes. NOW my 36K warranty is up and I called the service dept to try and look into it AGAIN bc its getting worse and worse|
|11-12-2013 05:04 AM|
|gantulga||check battery ground|
|11-12-2013 04:32 AM|
|BigMike62||This has been a problem for quite a while. It happened on my '09. They changed the wiper stalk/switch and it still happened. Then they changed out the wiper motor itself which fixed the issue.|
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|11-11-2013 09:21 PM|
|garyokc6||Update! After dozens of calls to Jeep and different case managers I think they fixed the wiper issues. I made appointment after appointment taking the jeep back to the dealer. I told my case manage that I will take it back every week until they got it fixed. I was tired of hearing that they can not re-create the problem. The dealer had to get a cab to take me to work every time so it was adding up quick. The service manager replaced the turn signal switch in September and told me if it happens again to call him and he will change the TIPM. It has been 2 months and the wipers have not come back on by themselves since and it was happening at least twice a week before that. So for everyone else, STAND YOUR GROUND with Jeep. If you shelled out thousands for a new JK then you should not have to deal with the wipers coming on by themselves!!!|
|10-14-2013 08:59 PM|
Hopefully the final update
A little late, but better than never..
Brought the jeep in on Friday, 27-Sep. They reopened the star case, and gave me a rental and told me they would call once they had a prognosis and eta of when it would be completed....
Turns out I got a call that afternoon, telling me it was the Multi-Function Switch and would be fixed before noon on Saturday, 28-SEP.
Seems like when the rental and all the labor and parts are coming out of their pocket, they move real quick!
Anyway, I got it back, and have not had a problem since. Hopefully, this will be the fix...
|10-12-2013 04:11 PM|
Mine has been fixed. They have not come on by them selves since. I posted the work order with the parts they changed in another tread. They also fixed the clock losing time. All ok here.
Here is the link where I posted the work orders
|10-12-2013 03:22 PM|
|Mclunk||Was it something they were aware of before you brought it in? Just wondering if there is something specific I should be asking for if I take it in.|
|10-12-2013 01:20 AM|
|BlackOpsJeep||It's a software flash they did to mine that stopped it. Like a Ghost in the Machine!|
|10-11-2013 11:59 PM|
|Mclunk||Let us know what they find, everything I have been reading about this seems to point to the same sequence of events. First wipers randomly turn on, then progresses to horn, and washer fluid going on by itself, then the battery dying. So far mine is just wipers, and I haven't taken it I yet, as I know they will just tell me they can't find anything if it isn't doing it when they have it in the shop.|
|10-11-2013 10:47 PM|
|abject||I have a 2010 Sport Wrangler...its doing the same thing; wipers coming on randomly, but! I went out to it this morning and all the power is there when I turn it to "Ignition", but when I turn the key to "Start".... it all dies.... nothing, no crank... but a random solenoid click now and then... so we will see what happens Monday when I go in and ask about it....|
|09-24-2013 01:00 AM|
|Lusus_Naturae||Has the clockspring been ruled out yet? Has anyone put a different battery in?|
|09-24-2013 12:34 AM|
I also have a 2012 JKU have had the wipers come on 4 times now on their own, twice when activating the turn signal, and twice when just driving.
With no other symptoms, would anyone say it is this TIPM issue or just a multi function switch issue.
|09-14-2013 12:30 PM|
|GeckoJK||I have a 12 JKU Sport S, got it new April last year, have 20k km (just over 12k mi) and am having this issue. It is happening more and more. Next trip to the dealer I will be bringing it up. Seems strange most Jeeps with this issue are 2012s. Maybe a bad batch of parts?|
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