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12-16-2013 01:36 PM
goose39 Hate to do this to the thread, but could someone post the phone number to Chrysler? I keep searching, but my internet connection is about to give me a *&#*(^& brain aneurysm. If there is a secondary number that isn't "800", that would be very useful also. Thanks in advance.
10-16-2013 02:29 PM
mystery7574 Thought I would update everyone on my situation and hopefully someone has some suggestions for me. So I fixed my tipm. Out of my pocket of course. And my starter, and battery and all the recalls. And had back maybe two weeks and jeep already tried to not start. Turn ignition two more tines and it started the bolt.symbol and engine light were on when it wouldn't start any suggestions? Also now the 4wd light comes on sometimes when starting However doesn't engage goes out after ten seconds. Added another ground wire so far its starting but every now and then that engine light flashes when starting and it shouldn't. Tired of taking to stealership since they tell me if they can't reproduce the problem they can't fix it and it started each and every time there..
10-14-2013 02:31 PM
skeeter Got my rig back a week ago after they said they couldn't reproduce the problem. It's happened twice since. Once was in heavy traffic and I nearly got run over. This is bull shit.
10-01-2013 07:50 AM
satansmilkman
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Originally Posted by mystery7574 View Post
So after having jeep towed in they claimed it was starter. Wait time on starter was a week since it was labor day weekend. Brought damn jeep home fixed ourselves and what do u know fricken jeep is back to blowing the damn horn all over again. There is no warranty on this jeep.and I am so fed up I am about ready to just sell it .
Understand the frustration...have had my JKR 10A less then 30 days and less then 1000 miles but it has left me stranded three times with similar issues to what is being discussed here. TIPM has been replaced 5x, starter 1x and wiring harness 1x. It's being towed in again as we speak with the same issue - select power issues & won't turn over. Called the lemon lawyer this morning. He was very happy to get another chrysler case involving this issue. Seems that this issue is very common for chrysler products but they would rather wait to be sued then find a permanent fix for it. I am very disappointed and will go back to driving my Defender 90 until this gets resolved
09-30-2013 05:13 PM
skeeter I talked to the service manager today and explained what I'd found online, he said "yep, sounds like the problem" So I asked when they could get it done. They can't do anything until they can recreate the problem for themselves and since they aren't driving it who knows when it will occur again.
09-29-2013 03:33 PM
jackor
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Originally Posted by rics1997 View Post
You don't actually think that a circuit board is made in America do you?

...and to add to this, Fiat (which nearly outright owns Chrysler) isn't American either. I actually think it was a good thing for all of the Big 3 to get involved with foreign auto makers, their cars have come a long way since then with more japanese and euro tech trickling into the 'american" made cars.
09-29-2013 02:56 PM
skeeter
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Originally Posted by PT13 View Post
Hello Everyone,

New here and new to Jeep. I have 2011 Overland and loved it till last wednesday when it wouldn't start. It turned over but never started. I had it towed and they tell me its the TIPM and there are 1,400 on back order and part wil not be available till 9/28....and oh by the way we're at $1,220 in cost!! WTF! Really! I bought the car used last november "certifified Pre-owned" with 28K on it. It now has 43K. It's not covered. This is so not right or fair. I'm in medical sales and cover all of CT and need a reliable car! I traded in my 2009 Mercedes E350 (which all I ever did was regular maintenance) for this crap! That car had 110K on it and I should have kept it. Lesson learned! Anyways my Jeep has been in the shop since Wednesday and I don't know what to do now. I'm pushing back on the dealer and will call Chrysler today. Anyone have some helpful tips.......... FRUSTRATED!!!
Wouldn't a 2011 with only 43k still be under factory warranty?
09-29-2013 02:54 PM
skeeter Hmm, glad I found this. My new to me, 08 JKUR just went into the shop for the same problems. Wipers going full blast, horn blowing constantly, lights flashing, engine stalled in traffic almost getting me hit. Mechanic said he doesn't have any idea what the problem is. He's been working on it for 4 days and can't figure it out. Think I'll send him a link to this thread.
09-24-2013 08:13 AM
hannah bolton
charity jeep wrangler

Hi everyone
New to this forum
This is a shortened version of the long story

We bought a jeep wrangler sahara for our charity in the UK, after about 2 years and 10,000 miles it stopped and I saw smoke coming out of the engine.

I got it towed to my garage who tole me it needed a new head gasket and that it was low on oil. The bill over £2000.

I called up Jeep and explained the problem and they said it was ourt of warrenty by a matter of weeks and that it was probably due to bad maintenance!!!!

After long e mails and phone calls we were told that we would not get it fixed on warranty and we have to pay for it ourselves (the charity does not have the money to pay for it).

We decided to take it further and have it re assessed anyway the new quote came in at £8000 because it had been too long and now it needed a new engine.

That was 2 years ago and it is still in the garage because we cannot raise funds to get it repaired.

With all the talk about recalls I wondered if it is worth having it reassed and maybe get them to take it?????

Any help on this would be gratefully received.

Many thanks
09-21-2013 11:55 AM
mystery7574 I got my jeep back Friday after fixing tipm. And now I am having a few different issues going on. 4wd light comes on even when not engaged, and when engaging transmission into drive almost a second hesitation. I am now extremely frustrated and think its just time to sell it
09-19-2013 11:15 AM
SwampfoxSC
I See Nothing Has Changed-Never Will

Little back ground on me.Since its my first post. I worked for Chrysler back in the 90s. As a parts guy,mechanic and eventually a service manager. Me and another guy even got a few TSBs to our credit. We found that dreaded valve float issue. So I have been around the block with their customer service. And parts quality. This was when they started the 5star program. We got our 5stars but it was hard as hell with what we had to work with. I was ashamed to be associated with Chrysler. Well I moved on in life to a national communications company. The only Chrysler vehicle I would own is GC 2wd with AW4 4.0 engine. We would see those 200k all the time. But with issues like shorted cam sensor wiring and fuel sending units. I was the guy who had to try and explain to these customers how shitty their car is. I remember one woman in tears about her car dyeing all the time. Scaring the hell outta her. And endangering her kids. Then after I left Chrysler. I did buy a GC for my wife. Her window regulator went out in her GC. A $360 part at the time. With no aftermarket options. We were 123 miles over mileage. But 8 months under on time for the warranty. Did they cover it? He'll no! This has been a issue fir over a decade. We would sell a half dozen a week. Always kept a few on the shelf. But the ladies in customer no service wouldn't give. I escalated as far as I could same response. I told em we were a young growing family in our twentys. With several more car purchases in our future. Are you really gonna lose me for life as a customer. Over your known defective part? I swore they would never get a dime outta me. And they haven't since. But I have always loved Wranglers. And am in the market for a new car. I currently have a F250 7.3 diesel with 230k on it no issues. And my toy 94 FJ80 triple locked and armored land cruiser with 220k miles no issues. So I test drove a 4 door the other night. And really loved it. But I know Chrysler quality. I kept telling myself. Maybe they changed like Ram. And stepped it up in quality and service. After all we did bail em out with our tax dollars. Maybe they used that as a turning point to restructure. So not even considering a Chrysler product for the last 12 years or so. I literally had no clue as to their current state. So I found this great site. Similar to IH8MUD for the land cruisers. And after reading this thread and few others. I see nothing has changed. It sux because Wranglers could be so much fun. I wish Toyota would build Wranglers for Chrysler. It's pretty sad when a 20 year old LC with 220 thousand miles on it. Is more reliable than a new $40k Wrangler. Maybe one day they will get it together before I die. So I can have some fun in a Wrangler. I want one so bad! But I need it to be my DD. And pull my flats skiff down to Keys and Glades every year. Damn it! Somebody talk some stupid into me. So I will buy one.
09-18-2013 06:21 PM
mystery7574 Chrysler reasoning on not paying is their is not currently an extended warranty issue on this part however, if they recall within the next 12 months we could get reimbursed. At this point after two weeks I just want my damn jeep back I guess. Its almost not even worth the fight anymore. If anyone else has anymore suggestion please pm imnat a loss right now.
09-17-2013 04:20 PM
mystery7574 I just found out after two weeks of an open star case with Chrysler that my tipm is faulty and they are not going to fix it at their cost. So now I have to cough up 800.00 . See you in court Chrysler
09-15-2013 10:32 PM
samric88 I have the same problem on my JK and could not figure out the problem until now. This forum helped me figure out what my problem was after changing the starter more than four times in the past few months thank god for autozone life time warranty lol I saved my $. I will buy the part and immediately replace it.
09-12-2013 02:50 PM
auburnJEEP
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Originally Posted by macfoo View Post
Being that this is an electrical issue, could it be related to problems with ABS?

We have a 2008 Sahara and have had both the front and back brakes locks up in the last 8 months. We were told in both cases it could possible be an issue with the ABS but no "root cause" was ever found.

We are now facing the occasional but un-reproducable issue of the horn fluttering, doors locking and unlocking quickly, lights blinking, wipers going off, and washer fluid shooting all at the same time. Most of the time it's been happening when we were parked, but this last time it happened when we were driving.

The Jeep was in the shop just two weeks ago to diagnose the issue and they said they replaced a shorted passenger door lock switch actuator.

We had a case open for the brake issues, but trying to get ahold of someone to re-open it or someone to even listen to us that we have an issue has been impossible.

I've been trying to get Chrysler to open a Customer care case to no avail. About ready to turn to the social media route or FB/Twitter shaming to get someone to listen.
Yes it can. I had all kinds of problems. It all started last year with my anti-skid activating for no reason- the Jeep started breaking to one side and acting like it was running out of gas. At that time, no problem code was activated so they would not look into it further. Later on I would have all kinds of codes generated for multiple electrical problems. I had to have a rear locker replaced. I believe the TIPM caused my rear locker failure as well--It controls everything. You can read my post in this thread for my history of the issues. The TIPM (aka fused box) replacement seems to have fixed all of my problems. I have a 2012 JKUR. So far I am happy. It was like night and day after the TIPM replacement. Chrysler changed manufactures of the TIPM. I was told I got one of the newer ones.
09-09-2013 10:33 AM
PT13 Hello Everyone,

New here and new to Jeep. I have 2011 Overland and loved it till last wednesday when it wouldn't start. It turned over but never started. I had it towed and they tell me its the TIPM and there are 1,400 on back order and part wil not be available till 9/28....and oh by the way we're at $1,220 in cost!! WTF! Really! I bought the car used last november "certifified Pre-owned" with 28K on it. It now has 43K. It's not covered. This is so not right or fair. I'm in medical sales and cover all of CT and need a reliable car! I traded in my 2009 Mercedes E350 (which all I ever did was regular maintenance) for this crap! That car had 110K on it and I should have kept it. Lesson learned! Anyways my Jeep has been in the shop since Wednesday and I don't know what to do now. I'm pushing back on the dealer and will call Chrysler today. Anyone have some helpful tips.......... FRUSTRATED!!!
09-07-2013 04:15 PM
macfoo Being that this is an electrical issue, could it be related to problems with ABS?

We have a 2008 Sahara and have had both the front and back brakes locks up in the last 8 months. We were told in both cases it could possible be an issue with the ABS but no "root cause" was ever found.

We are now facing the occasional but un-reproducable issue of the horn fluttering, doors locking and unlocking quickly, lights blinking, wipers going off, and washer fluid shooting all at the same time. Most of the time it's been happening when we were parked, but this last time it happened when we were driving.

The Jeep was in the shop just two weeks ago to diagnose the issue and they said they replaced a shorted passenger door lock switch actuator.

We had a case open for the brake issues, but trying to get ahold of someone to re-open it or someone to even listen to us that we have an issue has been impossible.

I've been trying to get Chrysler to open a Customer care case to no avail. About ready to turn to the social media route or FB/Twitter shaming to get someone to listen.
09-06-2013 03:04 PM
mystery7574
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Originally Posted by cwb1242 View Post
Mine started acting up. Headlights went out driving down the road at 50. Seems like a safety hazard. Unhooked battery and when you hook it back up the horn goes off.
Every one that was diagnosed with tipm issues please pm me. I need your help.
09-03-2013 09:39 PM
cwb1242
08 jeep tipm

Mine started acting up. Headlights went out driving down the road at 50. Seems like a safety hazard. Unhooked battery and when you hook it back up the horn goes off.
09-03-2013 07:51 AM
mystery7574
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Originally Posted by Frankie3040 View Post

Same thing happened to me today with the exeption that my fuse box in the front caught fire.
Report to nhtsa then they should make Chrysler do a recall. If jeeps r catching fire that is not a good thing at all. And to the people that are getting their tipm paid for. Are they voluntarily paying for them or do u have to bitch and scream. Just wondering
09-03-2013 06:25 AM
mystery7574
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Originally Posted by Frankie3040 View Post

Same thing happened to me today with the exeption that my fuse box in the front caught fire.
At least they r paying for yours. However. I still say we all start a class action lawsuit. I have to drive mine to work this am but it goes back in tonight. Hopefully mine doesn't catch on fire if so. Whose fault would it be? Since it has been in for the past 3 weeks for the same damn issues
09-02-2013 09:39 PM
Frankie3040
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Originally Posted by TexasRay View Post
JK 2008 Wrangler Sport 38,500 miles. Sorry for this being so lengthy, but this is the cut and pasted complaint that I have submitted to the NHTSA. After reading numerous similar complaints, I realize now that is is a bigger problem than Chrysler/Jeep wants to admit. I have had my Dream Ride for 11 months and it has become my nightmare! I bought used, at 28,000 miles, to save some cash. Lessons learned! All feedback is much appreciative!

The first of many times happened one morning as I was getting into vehicle. The horn, windshield wipers, lights and instrument indicator lights all activated. The wipers sprayed all the fluid in the reservoir. I could not turn these off. After disconnecting the battery, the engine would not crank for some time and the horn no longer worked. The dealership diagnosed the problem as a faulty horn and replaced the clock spring, horn and a fuse. A few weeks later, while driving, the horn, wipers and lights all came on and I could not turn these off! Even after removing the key, the engine and all the above would not shut off! Once again, I had to disconnect the battery in order to shut these components off. This has happened numerous times since! Now the airbag light comes on periodically! The dealership is now saying the problem is with the TIPM. There seems to be a backorder of more than 400+ of these components. Every week that goes by, the dealership says that the ETA has been moved back a week and they will call me when it gets in. To the dealer's credit (after I went a little crazy in the manager's office), they have agreed to pay for the est. cost of $600. But, in the meantime, is this vehicle safe to drive? Shouldn't there be a recall since there are 400+ of these parts on backorder? Today, I called Chrysler Customer Service and they told me that they would document this. NOT GOOD ENOUGH! After insisting that something else be done, I was told that a Service Manager would be contacting me tomorrow. We will see. In the meantime.......I am somewhat fearful of driving my Jeep for the simple reason of the unknown. Not to mention the embarrassment that this brings when stopped at a busy intersection and my horn and wipers start blaring uncontrollably. This must be stopped and Chrysler should declare a recall!
Same thing happened to me today with the exeption that my fuse box in the front caught fire.
09-02-2013 05:56 PM
mystery7574
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Originally Posted by BJK2080 View Post
Had mine in 3 times for electrical issues. Replaced wireless control module and starter.. Nothing. Replaced TIPM and all was fine. Chrysler knows of the prob as my brother works for them but not enough complaints or safety concerns for them to broadcast a recall. They are addressing them as they come up bc they are a very expensive part. Heard a tech comment that they are hoping most fail after factory warranty expires.
That's bullshit though. My warranty is up. I have replaced all the recalls. Now the starter now it has to go back in for the same issues I am in already 1000 . I see lawsuit if they know there is a problem and don't want to recall it. Evidentally there are a lot of complaints
09-02-2013 04:44 PM
BJK2080 Had mine in 3 times for electrical issues. Replaced wireless control module and starter.. Nothing. Replaced TIPM and all was fine. Chrysler knows of the prob as my brother works for them but not enough complaints or safety concerns for them to broadcast a recall. They are addressing them as they come up bc they are a very expensive part. Heard a tech comment that they are hoping most fail after factory warranty expires.
09-02-2013 12:45 PM
CM2112 I have to bring mine into dealer this week while under warranty. Several weeks ago I was leaving for work and after I started my jeep no dash lights came on and I couldn't put it into gear. I flipped the headlights on and off and everything came on and I haven't had an issue since, really weird.
09-01-2013 12:59 PM
mystery7574
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Originally Posted by legitposter View Post

Wow...
So after having jeep towed in they claimed it was starter. Wait time on starter was a week since it was labor day weekend. Brought damn jeep home fixed ourselves and what do u know fricken jeep is back to blowing the damn horn all over again. There is no warranty on this jeep.and I am so fed up I am about ready to just sell it .
08-26-2013 04:46 PM
auburnJEEP Well, I tested out my Jeep on 4x4 roads this weekend and everything is working great. So it looks like it was a TIPM failure causing the problem.
08-21-2013 09:51 PM
auburnJEEP
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Originally Posted by auburnJEEP View Post
I have a 2012 JKUR. Third time in the shop and they believe it is the TIPM causing my problems.

My history:

-Last year pulling out of a parking lot my ESC activated causing the Jeep to stutter/stall and brake to one side. After turning the Jeep off and on the problem went away. The dealership could not find a problem.

-A few months ago while testing my e-lockers I had problems with the rear locker light not turning off right away. On another outing it took 45 minutes for it to disengage. The dealer got it stuck and could not disengage the locker at all. They said it was physically jammed. They ended up replacing the rear locker.

- After the e locker issue, my e-disconnect light would come on and start flashing randomly after driving on bumpy roads. Then my ESC light would turn off and on. Next my ABS, Brake, ESC e-disconnect, and downhill assist lights would flash off and on at the same time. I notice that my GPS, which was plugged into the power invertor, was turning off and on with the lights. One time my radio clock reset itself. Another time after one of these incidences, my trip computer went crazy and stated I was getting 138 MPG. My ESC light then would turn on and stay on until turning the Jeep off and on.

Bumpy roads would set this problem off, but the bumps themselves would not cause the lights to come on. They seem to come off and on random and the power converter seems to mostly switch on and off with the lights.

I had the JK into the dealer 3 times . They are seeing a number of error codes generated. The first time they thought it was a control module for the dash lights. The second time they called Chrysler. They told them to replace the brake sensor. The third time they said it might be the TIPM. They plan on replacing the TIMP on Monday.

I am wondering if this problem caused my rear locker damage. I hope it fixes the other problems. I can work on my own Jeep, but Iím starting to wonder if I should buy a life time warranty before I canít just for the part cost and time. I have 22K on the JKU so far.
They replaced my TIPM. I just got back from a short test drive and so far so good. I will do more extensive testing this weekend. I was told I got one of the newer TIPM models. Hopefully this solves the issues.The dealer has been very good about trying to get it fixed so hats off to them.
08-21-2013 07:38 PM
legitposter
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Originally Posted by mystery7574 View Post
Picked jeep up again this evenin. Horn went off. Will take her back first thing in the morning
Wow...
08-21-2013 07:23 PM
mystery7574
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Originally Posted by mystery7574 View Post

Picked her up today said she was fixed. Didn't hear the horn. Or see wipers go off. The gas light came on and went to fill her up.and gas came spewing back at me. No matter what way I put that nozzle in .it came back out so I turned around went back to stealership and she sits again for another night until they figure out whatever they screwed up on her. Not even the thing I took her in for. Just a stupid recall
Picked jeep up again this evenin. Horn went off. Will take her back first thing in the morning
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