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10-09-2013 07:41 PM
Ragnar of Ballard Do you know off hand if the 651 are a marine (weather resistant?) speaker?
06-02-2013 10:23 PM
spencerlj I got the speakers in last week but was traveling so I just got to the install today. I will say to Clark that while they did fit, it was not exact. I had a little trouble getting them in and they are not flush mounted as the stock speakers were. However, it is not obtrusive to me. I installed the Speakers and the Grills that came with the Polk Audio DB651s. I took some pictures while installing and loaded them up in the Gallery. You can search the gallery for my name or for "Replace Rear Speakers in 04 TJ" and you can find them all.

Difference between stock speakers and DB651:


First, I found after trying to install with the pod attached to the roll bar, that it was much more difficult working upside down. So if you are going to do this, take the pods off and work on the ground. Much easier and quicker.

Remove the speaker by taking out the 4 #1 Phillips Screws. With the factory speakers they have a harness that clicks into the speaker. I cut that out, leaving just the wire, not the connector, crimped on a quick connect to attach to the new Polks. One for each post (+ and -). You could just spot weld the wires to the terminal, but I don't see the need myself and this is still a clean way to do it. I can also remove this and reattach the original speakers, should I ever trade this in.

To attach the speakers to the pods, I used the original screws that came out of the stock speakers to set the first screw in place. Since I was going to use the Polk Grill, I left the other 3 original mounting holes empty and used the other screw holes in the speaker to screw into the pod. For this, I used the screws that came with the DB651s (self tapping) to screw in 3 other holes, not the original mounting holes though. Then after getting the speaker in, I set the Polk Grill on top of the 4 original holes and with the 3 remaining holes not used, I screwed the grill into place.
Here is the look post install from the Top down.

Here is a look post install from the side to show how much the grill will stick up.

After this, just reattach the pods into the jeep. My finished look is as follows:


More pictures in the Gallery if you are interested. Thanks to KentClark for the reassurance that they would fit. I suppose as they say your mileage may vary but this was not an exact fit as KentClark said but it looks great to me and sounds much better!
06-02-2013 10:13 PM
spencerlj Speakers are in. Writeup to follow this.
05-22-2013 11:37 PM
spencerlj
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Originally Posted by _plaisance View Post
6.5 inch pioneers will definetly fit i put some in my one piece sound bar yesterday sound way better than the 5 1/4
Since I don't have the single piece Sound Bar and have the 2 Separate Pods, we will see how well they fit in the Pods.
05-22-2013 06:34 PM
_plaisance 6.5 inch pioneers will definetly fit i put some in my one piece sound bar yesterday sound way better than the 5 1/4
05-21-2013 05:34 PM
spencerlj
Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkkent View Post
I also have 6.5s in my 04 with separate speaker pods. I didn't have to modify them just screwed in new holes.

Polk Audio DB651 6.5-Inch Coaxial Speakers
I had just looked at these on Crutchfield and was told by the Crutchfield tech they would not fit. I saw your post and ordered a pair of Open Box for $59. If they don't fit, they go in my boat, so this was a no lose scenario for me! I will post pictures when I get them in. This will complete my stereo upgrade.

btw, would love to see a picture of your Jeep. I notice you have an LJ and wonder if that has anything to do with the difference in the Soundbar or not?
05-21-2013 05:30 PM
spencerlj
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
I'm betting you'd like the sound of 5.25" Polk DB series speakers.
I have the Polk Audio DB 5251's in the front matched to a Kenwood KIV-B901 Media Player head unit with a Kicker SubWoofer in the Console and they do sound great. Matching Polk's in the back would be much better. I like the Polk's for quality as well as Marine capable so I don't worry about weather when the top is off.

I see several people posting here that not just 5.25's but also 6.5's will fit in the '04 soundbar. I just ordered the Polk DB 651's based on ClarkKent and Neil F's experience. The 5251's are nice but I don't want to have to add the hassle of installing the component pieces as once I had the ones in front installed, I have not touched them since. The sound is nice with the woofer and tweeter separated, but installing this in the bar, it seems, would be a real hassle, and all I really want is good clean sound.

They had an open box pair of DB 651's on Crutchfield for $59. On the way to me now . For that price, if they don't fit in my Jeep, I will put them on my boat.
05-21-2013 12:43 PM
clarkkent I also have 6.5s in my 04 with separate speaker pods. I didn't have to modify them just screwed in new holes.

Polk Audio DB651 6.5-Inch Coaxial Speakers
05-21-2013 08:34 AM
Neil F.
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Originally Posted by Buzzf117 View Post
Is there a way to identify if your sound bar is stock or aftermarket?

What year is your TJ? Post a picture of the sound bar would be the best way.
05-21-2013 08:21 AM
Buzzf117 Is there a way to identify if your sound bar is stock or aftermarket?
05-21-2013 07:14 AM
Neil F. What brand/model was it that would not fit? Even still, trimming the plastic opening is not a big deal.
05-21-2013 07:04 AM
Jerry Bransford My bet is the reason some have no problems & others do with 6.5" speakers in the newer speaker pod has to do with the speaker itself. The 6.5" speakers I test-fit wouldn't drop in deeply enough to mount without enlarging the hole. Perhaps it has to do with S type vs. non-S type speakers that have different magnet sizes, I dunno. I had no problem with them fitting into my '97 TJ's sound bar.
05-21-2013 06:54 AM
Neil F. Other than drilling new holes
05-21-2013 06:47 AM
Jerry Bransford Your 6.5" speakers dropped into your pods without any modifications to anything?
05-21-2013 06:45 AM
Neil F.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
Too many mix up soundbars like my '97 had & the newer speaker pods used in newer TJs. You are calling yours a speaker bar but in my '04, each speaker has its own separate pod with nothing between them. They are different & have different openings. I know 6.5" speakers fit into the one-piece soundbar that the factory mounted 5.25" speakers in, I mounted 6.5" Polks into my previous TJ's soundbar. But are you saying that without any modifications, you got 6.5" speakers mounted properly into the newer pod speaker enclosure?

In other words, are your 6.5" speakers mounted in a one-piece sound bar or are they mounted in the separate enclosures (pods) aren't connected to one another?

Sound bar... rear one-piece with a light in the center with a speaker opening at both ends.
Speaker pod... rear individual speaker enclosure, one for each side... not attached to each other.
My 03 has the individual pods. All the quotes I copied above are from 03+ owners. 03+ had the pods stock.
05-21-2013 06:40 AM
ChaddG 2001 tj, put sony xplod 3way 5.25 " in the dash, sony xplod 3 way 6.5 in the sound bar, I had to drill new holes, and a 6.5 woofer in the center console little cut n trim to the enclosure and it fit snug as a bug.
05-21-2013 06:40 AM
Jerry Bransford Too many mix up soundbars like my '97 had & the newer speaker pods used in newer TJs. You are calling yours a speaker bar but in my '04, each speaker has its own separate pod with nothing between them. They are different & have different openings. I know 6.5" speakers fit into the one-piece soundbar that the factory mounted 5.25" speakers in, I mounted 6.5" Polks into my previous TJ's soundbar. But are you saying that without any modifications, you got 6.5" speakers mounted properly into the newer pod speaker enclosure?

In other words, are your 6.5" speakers mounted in a one-piece sound bar or are they mounted in the separate enclosures (pods) aren't connected to one another?

Sound bar... rear one-piece with a light in the center with a speaker opening at both ends.
Speaker pod... rear individual speaker enclosure, one for each side... not attached to each other.
05-21-2013 06:26 AM
Neil F.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
The separate speaker pods used in newer TJs won't accept 6.5" speakers like the older soundbar speaker openings will.
Jerry, that is not correct.


"I bought 3 way, 6 1/2" Pioneer's today and installed them in my 06' s sound bar."

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/6-1-...ar-158282.html



"Not sure how your are going in. You may have to drill new holes for the mounting screws.

I have Infinity 6 3/4 which came with surface mount trim rings. I had to make new holes to mount the rings. There is no problem with the speaker cage and magnet fitting through the sound pod opening. Note I have a 03 and the pods are different on earlier years. "


"Well I got the 6.5's installed! Looks and sounds great!, You will have to drill holes. I just installed Alpine Type S 6.5's, and they sound great. It will work" 04 TJ


"Thanks for all the feedback. I installed the 6.5 pioneer 4ways, last night. The mtg holes are right at the radius of the opening. I stuffed the pods full of pollyfill, and used a black acrylic caulk between the speaker, cover, and the plastic. I used 2" drywall screws to mount, and it worked great."

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/pict...ase-74463.html


"i just put some alpine type R 6.5 in mine. worked great and they came with some plates that helped me install them. the sound is great, ill try and post some pics tomorrow. " 06 TJ

6 1/2 inch rear soundbar speakers in a TJ - JeepForum.com
05-21-2013 06:04 AM
Neil F.
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Originally Posted by spencerlj View Post
I appreciate the confirmation. Looks like I will have to find a way to either mod the pods, go with a replacement of the older sound bar like Sandstorm95 is looking at doing on his YJ or find some other way to put in the larger size speakers. I don't need crazy loud sound, just nice and clean.
6 1/2 fits no problems without modification. Just do a search on 6 1/2 speakers. You'll find lots of posts.
05-21-2013 05:53 AM
Jerry Bransford I'm betting you'd like the sound of 5.25" Polk DB series speakers.
05-20-2013 11:57 PM
spencerlj
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Originally Posted by speedyrev View Post
'04 has 2 pods. Have to stay stock size.
I appreciate the confirmation. Looks like I will have to find a way to either mod the pods, go with a replacement of the older sound bar like Sandstorm95 is looking at doing on his YJ or find some other way to put in the larger size speakers. I don't need crazy loud sound, just nice and clean.
05-19-2013 10:04 PM
speedyrev '04 has 2 pods. Have to stay stock size.
05-19-2013 10:02 PM
spencerlj
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
The separate speaker pods used in newer TJs won't accept 6.5" speakers like the older soundbar speaker openings will.
What constitutes "newer"? I have a 2004 and have updated the fronts and the console Woofer and want to now upgrade the rear's as I can still get clean sound out of the Polk Components in front while the rears are starting to distort at about 3/4 sound.
05-19-2013 09:39 PM
speedyrev Definitely make sure you have a bar and not 2 pods.
05-19-2013 09:10 PM
Jerry Bransford The separate speaker pods used in newer TJs won't accept 6.5" speakers like the older soundbar speaker openings will.
05-19-2013 08:55 PM
TurboGoKart Is there a difference in the 05 models? I bought some 6.5's for my 05 Rubicon's sound bar, and they weren't even close.
06-12-2012 08:10 AM
Sandstorm95 Nice. Cus I had 6.5s on the floor but that's no place for speakers in a jeep. I didn't want to spend 200 on a new soundbar with crappy speakers and there's no way I can take the yj soundbar and put 6.5s in from 4s. Then I saw my buddies tj and made me think if I could throw a tj soundbar in my yj. The measurements seemed to line up pretty good
06-12-2012 06:59 AM
Wattapunk Mine is a factory soundbar and I had to trim mine out for 6.5" kickers to make it flush with the soundbar. It came with 5.25" speakers.
06-12-2012 06:35 AM
SurfKaster 6.5 is the way to go & some don't even require drilling. The pioneers I put in didn't & I hear polk slide right in too.
06-12-2012 03:05 AM
TJspeed 5.25" is stock OEM size but you can fit 6.5" with no issues or cutting. Just have to re-drill the mounting holes. I have 6.5" JBL 3 ways in my sound bar.
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