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06-19-2012 09:25 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by njp2295
Here is a chart of what gear ratio you should be around to with what size tires.
Good reference. You have to remember that the transmission and engine and driving conditions play a part as well.

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Originally Posted by InvertChaos

Funny isn't it?
A little. But I don't bother much anymore. Less talking and more doing for me


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Originally Posted by XJ Knight
Im not laughing.. You know who you are
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06-19-2012 07:57 PM
XJ Knight Im not laughing.. You know who you are
06-19-2012 07:07 PM
InvertChaos
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00

So much misinformation and other nonsense in this thread and others. Sad that people take to bashing others on pretense that they know nothing because of an off topic social thread
Funny isn't it?
06-19-2012 07:05 PM
njp2295 Here is a chart of what gear ratio you should be around to with what size tires.
06-19-2012 06:47 PM
GoldenSahara00
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Originally Posted by InvertChaos

Most of us over there actually have our jeeps set up pretty well on the budget. I love my 4.56s...
So much misinformation and other nonsense in this thread and others. Sad that people take to bashing others on pretense that they know nothing because of an off topic social thread
06-19-2012 05:18 PM
InvertChaos
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Originally Posted by Murray8503

Haha! Actually 4.56 gears are recommended for 33's but keep playing in your high school jeepers forum maybe you can learn a little more.
Most of us over there actually have our jeeps set up pretty well on the budget. I love my 4.56s...
06-19-2012 05:08 PM
JVLemur
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Originally Posted by rda616
The 44 is a good upgrade, but the 8.8 is the stronger of the two axles. It is also easily found for next to nothing as far as cost goes. The 8.8 needs brackets welded on, but the kits are cheap. The stock ford shafts are almost as strong as the superior shafts I have in my 44 now. And the pinion shank on a 8.8 is much bigger and stronger then the dana 44.

The short comings are the carriers aren't that strong from the factor, but most run lockers anyway. The other is the tubes can spin in the housing and should be welded to the housing to prevent that from occurring.

You shouldn't discount a part because you don't like a particular brand. I have seen these axles live in 1200 hp, 8 second drag cars for many years. Granted not in bone stock form, but stock housings, yes.

Living in California you should have a you pull it around you somewhere. The explorers are all over the junk yards. You can likely get one with a lsd, 4.10 gears and disc brakes for around $150.00
Very insightful, and true I shouldn't disregard a part based on the brand, and I do see a lot of guys on the forum running that set up, they can't all be wrong, so a hunt for a ford 8.8 it is.
Thank you for talking sense into me haha
06-19-2012 04:32 PM
rda616 The 44 is a good upgrade, but the 8.8 is the stronger of the two axles. It is also easily found for next to nothing as far as cost goes. The 8.8 needs brackets welded on, but the kits are cheap. The stock ford shafts are almost as strong as the superior shafts I have in my 44 now. And the pinion shank on a 8.8 is much bigger and stronger then the dana 44.

The short comings are the carriers aren't that strong from the factor, but most run lockers anyway. The other is the tubes can spin in the housing and should be welded to the housing to prevent that from occurring.

You shouldn't discount a part because you don't like a particular brand. I have seen these axles live in 1200 hp, 8 second drag cars for many years. Granted not in bone stock form, but stock housings, yes.

Living in California you should have a you pull it around you somewhere. The explorers are all over the junk yards. You can likely get one with a lsd, 4.10 gears and disc brakes for around $150.00
06-19-2012 04:14 PM
BLK00TJ 3.73 + 33s = livable
3.07 + 33s = big power loss

Ask anyone who has those combos. I have the first and I do believe that any gear less would be not be tolerable. The only reason I haven't regeared is I am also wanting to safe enough to add lockers as well at the same time.
06-19-2012 04:06 PM
JVLemur
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Originally Posted by Skyhawk32

Dana 44
That's what I was thinking, now to start the savings process. Thanks.
06-19-2012 04:04 PM
Skyhawk32
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Originally Posted by JVLemur

I guess I'll run 31s until I save up to upgrade, any suggestions for something different than a ford 8.8 rear? I'm not a fan of ford at all.
Dana 44
06-19-2012 04:01 PM
JVLemur
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Originally Posted by jeepdude2003
I just snapped my dana 35 axle shafts sunday with 33 and 410 gears so i wouldnt think its a good idea not to upgrade to something better
I guess I'll run 31s until I save up to upgrade, any suggestions for something different than a ford 8.8 rear? I'm not a fan of ford at all.
06-19-2012 03:58 PM
jeepdude2003 I just snapped my dana 35 axle shafts sunday with 33 and 410 gears so i wouldnt think its a good idea not to upgrade to something better
06-19-2012 03:50 PM
JVLemur
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Originally Posted by rda616

If you are going with 35's then I would just do the 4.88 gears and live with having to shift often over the unbearable bog of a 3.07, or the cost of regearing twice. Third and my favorite is to find a high pinion 30 out of a 4 cylinder 5 speed xj. They had 4.10 gears! Then get a 8.8 out of a 96-01 ford explorer with 4.10 gears and you are good until you can afford to regear for the 35's.
I was thinking of keeping my d30/35 set up but I've heard that they're week with 35"+ tires so maybe I'll stick to getting 33s and gearing to 4.56 since swapping to a HP30 and an 8.8 might be rather expensive, even more so in California.
06-19-2012 03:40 PM
rda616
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Originally Posted by JVLemur

Yea the 3.07 are awful even with 31s from first hand experience, would gearing to 4.56 or even 4.88 be bad while I run the 31s for a while until I get my 35s?
If you are going with 35's then I would just do the 4.88 gears and live with having to shift often over the unbearable bog of a 3.07, or the cost of regearing twice. Third and my favorite is to find a high pinion 30 out of a 4 cylinder 5 speed xj. They had 4.10 gears! Then get a 8.8 out of a 96-01 ford explorer with 4.10 gears and you are good until you can afford to regear for the 35's.
06-19-2012 02:05 PM
JVLemur
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Originally Posted by rda616
Really, 3.07 gears with 33" tires. And he thinks that's a good combination for what exactly. I had 33's on for a summer with 3.07 gears and it was awful in every way. Even on 31's 3.07 gears suck. I would have to down shift on hills all of the time.

I would say everyone else hit it on the head. If you have a 4.0 with a 5 speed 4.56 gears and 33's are where you will want to be.
Yea the 3.07 are awful even with 31s from first hand experience, would gearing to 4.56 or even 4.88 be bad while I run the 31s for a while until I get my 35s?
06-19-2012 01:22 PM
rda616 Really, 3.07 gears with 33" tires. And he thinks that's a good combination for what exactly. I had 33's on for a summer with 3.07 gears and it was awful in every way. Even on 31's 3.07 gears suck. I would have to down shift on hills all of the time.

I would say everyone else hit it on the head. If you have a 4.0 with a 5 speed 4.56 gears and 33's are where you will want to be.
06-19-2012 12:39 PM
gregward93 Spacers? Go with the rough country 2' spacers. I had them and had no problems. Just get the correct bump stop length. And if you go coil, go teraflex all the way. Can't beat it.
06-19-2012 12:20 PM
jeepdude2003 I did that nothing happened bad except i got stuck
06-19-2012 12:03 PM
snowman555 Lol @ the guy who is gonna go mudding with 33"s and 3.07s.. ill pull you out for 40$ when it happens.
06-19-2012 11:34 AM
carlosprite I'm currently running 32" on 3.07, quite often I can't get up small hills (I won't call them hills, slopes) because my 1st gear can't crawl slow enough, so you have to stop, change into 4L and then keep going.

It's painful tbh, I can't wait to regear.
06-19-2012 02:10 AM
darkproximity Well that was interesting. Sorry that got out of hand.

To the OP: it would be a good idea to budget for new gear sets, you're likely running 3.07:1 right now unless its had a gear change already which is unlikely, or it came with a tow package. Sure you'll be fine running 33s on stock gear ratio but as others have stated in your thread and plenty of others throughout the automotive world, its definitely not ideal. You should consider the cons of running such a setup (fuel economy, power loss, etc) and see if to you it gives you the benefit you're looking for. There's a lot more to running larger tires than just buying and bolting them on, something to consider. Just because you can does not always mean you should. it would also be wise to read a lot about the Dana 35 rear axle, and how it holds up to larger tires, I know several people personally who have had the axle fail on them with stock tires, and some who have broken them with 33s as well
06-19-2012 02:09 AM
JVLemur
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Originally Posted by XJ Knight
While I love snow wheeling, I was being sarcastic. Allday isn't a bright individual and was pissing me off.

People wheel the terrain that you have available to you and just be happy doing it.. Every terrain, while differnt, is fun to wheel, and no terrain is better to wheel then the other. It's people that prefer one over another. Take advantage of what you got before some group of ecco junkies or the goverment shuts it down, cause you never know when that might happen.
I got your sarcasm, I was adding to it and guess it didn't work well, and to the Eco junkies, I heard they wanna shut down rubicon which is only 2hours from me, and I haven't even started the mods needed for the trail, which on a college budget will be slow.
06-19-2012 01:39 AM
darkproximity In case the sarcasm of that last comment was lost on you, that was meant to be taken as your originality is very lacking
06-19-2012 01:38 AM
darkproximity Do you have any other mall crawler comments? I don't think I was able to read the first 3
06-19-2012 01:36 AM
TJallday97 Hope you flip your jeep and i have to come pull your ass out cuz the curb at the mall was too high
06-19-2012 01:35 AM
darkproximity
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Originally Posted by TJallday97
Your not worth my time anymore i got more important things to do like sleep and not argue with somebody who owns a mall crawler on a jeep forum and pretends to know what hes talking about
Don't hurt yourself sleeping
06-19-2012 01:24 AM
LouieDelTorchio Lol i love this stuff..
06-19-2012 01:18 AM
XJ Knight
06-19-2012 01:00 AM
JVLemur You don't have to regear, but will definitely be at a noticeable loss of power, and have even worse mpg, specially if his stock gears are the low 3.07 which the 5speed came stock with without factory upgrades. I'm at 3.07 gears with 31s and definitely notice I need to gear up, not to mention my mpgs are 10mpg highway even though I have brand new everything under the hood and others running tires bigger than mine have gotten even 22mpgs
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