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10-25-2008 01:20 PM
jgano23 mr4x4 that pic actually made me nausious. who WOULD do that to a perfectly good yj? that owner needs some thrapy!
10-22-2008 03:33 PM
foxinthemudd
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Originally Posted by debruins View Post
id say as long as it has the jeep grille and a jeep frame and can go topless, and at least looks like one, it is still a jeep, but all the mods need to be done so it can be better off road, not so it looks better or anything
HOLY COW DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY READ BRUINS POST!
10-22-2008 02:20 PM
tn-yj Well don't you first need to clearly define what a Jeep is to determine when it ceases to be one? What constitutes a Jeep? If you were having this conversation with a philosopher he would ask the definition first i think. Is it the tub? the frame? capabilities? all of the afore mentioned? With a clear definition it would easier to determine a stopping point. Maybe Im looking to deep lol.
08-25-2008 08:38 PM
rketr
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Originally Posted by ct-tj View Post
A jeep is no longer a Jeep if you have to laugh at it like a Hummer, cuz the owner chromed it out on dubs and all that gay crap.
Agreed.

Should be a law stating that somebody that does that is allowed to get their heads smacked by other jeep owners.
08-25-2008 06:09 PM
4X4RDSTR Amen
08-05-2008 09:43 AM
ct-tj A jeep is no longer a Jeep if you have to laugh at it like a Hummer, cuz the owner chromed it out on dubs and all that gay crap.
08-04-2008 08:55 PM
slf41002
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Originally Posted by debruins View Post
id say as long as it has the jeep grille and a jeep frame and can go topless, and at least looks like one, it is still a jeep, but all the mods need to be done so it can be better off road, not so it looks better or anything
So you are sayin you have put nothing on your jeep to make it look better????Come on now Derek I just don't buy that!!!! Like the chrome grille inserts,diamond or stainless rocker guards?????
08-01-2008 02:17 PM
jeepcop1 Hmmmm.... this is an excelent quesiton. I'd have to agree that if it started as a Jeep and still has the tell-tale grille and relative body then I'd still have to call it a Jeep. All of the mods that you can do to them is what Jeep is all about.... other than lowering. I think I threw up a little when I saw those pics.
07-31-2008 01:36 AM
Unlimited A "Jeep" exists in the eye of the beholder......
07-30-2008 10:39 PM
jeeptales
If you ask the Texas DMV



This one is registered as a 2003 Jeep Liberty

07-30-2008 09:55 PM
Coyote_94YJ
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Originally Posted by rketr View Post
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it were real. I've seen trucks done like that...

Of course the owner should be shot for such a sacrilegious act...
The first pic HAS to be photochopped. Where is the top half of the front tires? Never-Never land?
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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
if the Vin still says it's jeep then it's jeep.
x2. The only original factory parts in my drivetrain is the D30 and the np231 cover.
07-30-2008 08:24 PM
AzTJ
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Originally Posted by 1BLKJP View Post
if the Vin still says it's jeep then it's jeep.
Yup - even if it has a mixture of Ford and Chevy drive train components... It's still a Jeep on the insurance papers.
07-30-2008 06:31 PM
1BLKJP if the Vin still says it's jeep then it's jeep.
07-30-2008 06:25 PM
rketr Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it were real. I've seen trucks done like that...

Of course the owner should be shot for such a sacrilegious act...
07-30-2008 11:57 AM
mr4x4
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Originally Posted by Sb5551 View Post
That one picture definatly has to be a photo shop. It is still horrible though.

I think the first pic has been photo shop to I just found them on the web
07-30-2008 11:42 AM
tj1230 x2 Spanky. Who in their right mind thinks lowering a jeep is a good idea? I have seen a couple jeeps on KSL(local classifieds) w/ 20" rims and 33" tires. Something doesn't add up. If people wanted a pavement princess or asphalt H**ker why buy the most versitile off-road vehicle.
Just a thought!
07-30-2008 11:28 AM
Sb5551 That one picture definatly has to be a photo shop. It is still horrible though.
07-30-2008 08:55 AM
rketr We basically came up with the fact that if it began life as a Jeep it will always be one regardless of the number of mods you do. (The VIN says it is one)

Conversely, making one from scratch...? Dunno...
07-30-2008 07:11 AM
jeeps&comics ohhhh geez-us... is that first jeep even off the ground? man... why? WHY?!?!
07-30-2008 01:56 AM
mr4x4 well if it had to built by chrysler to bee a jeep the older jeeps are not jeep since they where built by amc
even farther back then that they where built by ford and then theres the willies
so I say yes the jeep yj you could build from all the parts in quadratec still make it a jeep

but this should not have happend (why would someone do that)
07-30-2008 12:53 AM
spanky technically if it still has the jeep frame and jeep body its still legally a jeep right ? no matter what else is done to it ??

richp made a good point; you could almost build an entire thing from quadratec but not use any chrysler part. is that still a jeep?

new motors/trannys/axles are to common. we cant leave them out of the mix. i believe they are still jeeps

but what wouldnt I personally call a jeep? i really dont know! maybe something that takes it away from its original purpose. like lowering it, putting HUGE rims on it, stuff like that.
07-29-2008 09:58 PM
debruins id say as long as it has the jeep grille and a jeep frame and can go topless, and at least looks like one, it is still a jeep, but all the mods need to be done so it can be better off road, not so it looks better or anything
07-29-2008 09:48 PM
mr4x4 I would say its not a jeep if you replace the motor with a 22r and toyota tranny put yota axles in it and replace the tub with a taco (tacoma) body
07-29-2008 09:31 PM
richp Considering you can take the full quadratec catalog and build a YJ FROM SCRATCH and not use ONE chrysler part is that still a jeep
07-29-2008 08:52 PM
nicolas-eric IMO modifications to jeep parts are ok. like lockers, stronger axles, suspension lifts and more. if there are some non-jeep axles or a non jeep engine in a jeep i wouldn´t call it a jeep anymore.
p.e. my buddies with unimog axles and corvette V8s in their CJs call their cars crossbreed and not jeep.
07-29-2008 08:21 PM
rketr
When is a Jeep no longer a Jeep?

Was talking with a bud the other day about all the things you can modify / manipulate / upgrade / replace on a Jeep and he posed an interesting question:

"When is a Jeep no longer considered a Jeep?"

Basically at what point with all the things you've done with it does it become not a Jeep (or a used-to-be-a-Jeep)...

Conversely, when building from a non-Jeep, when does a custom rig BECOME a Jeep?

We came to a conclusion, but I'm curious to see your take...

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