|10-25-2008 02:20 PM|
|jgano23||mr4x4 that pic actually made me nausious. who WOULD do that to a perfectly good yj? that owner needs some thrapy!|
|10-22-2008 04:33 PM|
|10-22-2008 03:20 PM|
|tn-yj||Well don't you first need to clearly define what a Jeep is to determine when it ceases to be one? What constitutes a Jeep? If you were having this conversation with a philosopher he would ask the definition first i think. Is it the tub? the frame? capabilities? all of the afore mentioned? With a clear definition it would easier to determine a stopping point. Maybe Im looking to deep lol.|
|08-25-2008 09:38 PM|
Should be a law stating that somebody that does that is allowed to get their heads smacked by other jeep owners.
|08-25-2008 07:09 PM|
|08-05-2008 10:43 AM|
|ct-tj||A jeep is no longer a Jeep if you have to laugh at it like a Hummer, cuz the owner chromed it out on dubs and all that gay crap.|
|08-04-2008 09:55 PM|
|08-01-2008 03:17 PM|
|jeepcop1||Hmmmm.... this is an excelent quesiton. I'd have to agree that if it started as a Jeep and still has the tell-tale grille and relative body then I'd still have to call it a Jeep. All of the mods that you can do to them is what Jeep is all about.... other than lowering. I think I threw up a little when I saw those pics.|
|07-31-2008 02:36 AM|
|Unlimited||A "Jeep" exists in the eye of the beholder......|
|07-30-2008 11:39 PM|
If you ask the Texas DMV
This one is registered as a 2003 Jeep Liberty
|07-30-2008 10:55 PM|
|07-30-2008 09:24 PM|
|07-30-2008 07:31 PM|
|1BLKJP||if the Vin still says it's jeep then it's jeep.|
|07-30-2008 07:25 PM|
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if it were real. I've seen trucks done like that...
Of course the owner should be shot for such a sacrilegious act...
|07-30-2008 12:57 PM|
I think the first pic has been photo shop to I just found them on the web
|07-30-2008 12:42 PM|
x2 Spanky. Who in their right mind thinks lowering a jeep is a good idea? I have seen a couple jeeps on KSL(local classifieds) w/ 20" rims and 33" tires. Something doesn't add up. If people wanted a pavement princess or asphalt H**ker why buy the most versitile off-road vehicle.
Just a thought!
|07-30-2008 12:28 PM|
|Sb5551||That one picture definatly has to be a photo shop. It is still horrible though.|
|07-30-2008 09:55 AM|
We basically came up with the fact that if it began life as a Jeep it will always be one regardless of the number of mods you do. (The VIN says it is one)
Conversely, making one from scratch...? Dunno...
|07-30-2008 08:11 AM|
|jeeps&comics||ohhhh geez-us... is that first jeep even off the ground? man... why? WHY?!?!|
|07-30-2008 02:56 AM|
well if it had to built by chrysler to bee a jeep the older jeeps are not jeep since they where built by amc
even farther back then that they where built by ford and then theres the willies
so I say yes the jeep yj you could build from all the parts in quadratec still make it a jeep
but this should not have happend (why would someone do that)
|07-30-2008 01:53 AM|
technically if it still has the jeep frame and jeep body its still legally a jeep right ? no matter what else is done to it ??
richp made a good point; you could almost build an entire thing from quadratec but not use any chrysler part. is that still a jeep?
new motors/trannys/axles are to common. we cant leave them out of the mix. i believe they are still jeeps
but what wouldnt I personally call a jeep? i really dont know! maybe something that takes it away from its original purpose. like lowering it, putting HUGE rims on it, stuff like that.
|07-29-2008 10:58 PM|
|debruins||id say as long as it has the jeep grille and a jeep frame and can go topless, and at least looks like one, it is still a jeep, but all the mods need to be done so it can be better off road, not so it looks better or anything|
|07-29-2008 10:48 PM|
|mr4x4||I would say its not a jeep if you replace the motor with a 22r and toyota tranny put yota axles in it and replace the tub with a taco (tacoma) body|
|07-29-2008 10:31 PM|
|richp||Considering you can take the full quadratec catalog and build a YJ FROM SCRATCH and not use ONE chrysler part is that still a jeep|
|07-29-2008 09:52 PM|
IMO modifications to jeep parts are ok. like lockers, stronger axles, suspension lifts and more. if there are some non-jeep axles or a non jeep engine in a jeep i wouldn´t call it a jeep anymore.
p.e. my buddies with unimog axles and corvette V8s in their CJs call their cars crossbreed and not jeep.
|07-29-2008 09:21 PM|
When is a Jeep no longer a Jeep?
Was talking with a bud the other day about all the things you can modify / manipulate / upgrade / replace on a Jeep and he posed an interesting question:
"When is a Jeep no longer considered a Jeep?"
Basically at what point with all the things you've done with it does it become not a Jeep (or a used-to-be-a-Jeep)...
Conversely, when building from a non-Jeep, when does a custom rig BECOME a Jeep?
We came to a conclusion, but I'm curious to see your take...