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03-26-2014 04:25 PM
2013 Moab
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Originally Posted by Deuce88 View Post
Umm they do!
I was being facetious.
03-26-2014 01:57 PM
express_wagon
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Originally Posted by Scott2373 View Post
The headlights turn themselves off after several minutes, anyway. No matter what model you have.

Oh really? Wow. That is good to know.

I wish the JK was like my Land Cruiser. Lights turn off with ingition regardless. But if you want to turn the lights back on with the key out, you'll need the flip the lights off and on again.
03-26-2014 01:19 PM
Deuce88 Umm they do!
03-26-2014 12:47 PM
2013 Moab I can't tell you how many dipweeds I see running down the highway with no lights on or just DLR lights on... If only they made some sort of auto switch that these people could turn on once and forget.
03-26-2014 12:31 PM
panthermark Not a fan of auto-headlights, so I never use them. I do turn on my running lights quite often.

I think DRL's are more important that auto-headlights. But I guess if you have DRL's you may forget to turn your lights all the way on?

One day I will get a Procal just to turn on DRL's.
03-26-2014 12:24 PM
Scott2373
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post

You seem to be forgetting that with auto-on, also comes auto-off. IMHO, that's the more useful feature, and you might appreciate such if you ever returned to your car to find a DEAD BATTERY.

And yea, there are people who do indeed accidentally leave a light on in their homes, when they leave.
The headlights turn themselves off after several minutes, anyway. No matter what model you have.
03-25-2014 09:33 PM
Jeffola
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Originally Posted by WaltA View Post
You seem to be forgetting that with auto-on, also comes auto-off. IMHO, that's the more useful feature, and you might appreciate such if you ever returned to your car to find a DEAD BATTERY. And yea, there are people who do indeed accidentally leave a light on in their homes, when they leave.
That's my point. Thanks.
03-25-2014 06:00 PM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by Scott2373 View Post
The whole idea of adding them after the fact seems really ridiculous to me. If you forget to turn your headlights on when it's dark, do you forget to put pants on in the morning? Do you forget to flip the lights on and wonder why you can't see when entering a dark room in your house? The amount of work it would take to install the necessary equipment is about 10,000 times greater than simply turning your lights on manually over the entire course of ownership of the vehicle. I understand luxury, but sometimes it's spelled "lazy".
You seem to be forgetting that with auto-on, also comes auto-off. IMHO, that's the more useful feature, and you might appreciate such if you ever returned to your car to find a DEAD BATTERY.

And yea, there are people who do indeed accidentally leave a light on in their homes, when they leave.
03-25-2014 05:56 PM
WaltA
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Originally Posted by mikekeeper View Post
Same reason lights come on when wipers are on - becoming the law in several states.
And if you have auto-headlights, there's an option to have them also come on automatically with you wipers.
03-25-2014 05:01 PM
Scott2373 The whole idea of adding them after the fact seems really ridiculous to me. If you forget to turn your headlights on when it's dark, do you forget to put pants on in the morning? Do you forget to flip the lights on and wonder why you can't see when entering a dark room in your house? The amount of work it would take to install the necessary equipment is about 10,000 times greater than simply turning your lights on manually over the entire course of ownership of the vehicle. I understand luxury, but sometimes it's spelled "lazy".
03-21-2014 07:33 PM
mikekeeper You've all seen the people driving in the dark without headlights or in other low-light conditions such as heavy snow. Same reason lights come on when wipers are on - becoming the law in several states.
03-21-2014 04:19 PM
grizzstang I don't see the appeal. Our Jeep has them and the girlfriend must have them on auto all the time. My truck does not have auto lights and I could care-a-less.
03-21-2014 01:50 PM
Jakesdad For what it's worth..,I think auto headlights are one of those things that seem great if you don't have them, but if you do you realize how un-necessary they are. I find myself using them occasionally but it's usually by accidentally turning the switch to the wrong notch. One thing I ALWAYS do is check to make sure they are NOT on auto when I'm on an unlit dark road at night, in a rain storm, or any other time that I cannot afford to have my lights go out even for a second. I don't trust my life to that sensor at all, and is where auto headlights become kind of a hassle for me. I sure wouldn't mod my vehicle for that.
03-18-2014 11:15 AM
MustangGrl I have a related question, is there a way to make the headlights and dog lights turn off with the vehicle and then turn back on when restarted?
I always had my headlights on in my Kia cause I never needed to turn them off cause they turned off with the car. I prefer to always have mine on also.
03-18-2014 10:09 AM
K3vinMac
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Originally Posted by dansb View Post
Well crap found more posts from that guy and it did not function properly when installed, stayed on all the time. Chatter is that the dealer has to add sales code LMG to the jeep to make it function; but no one has gotten to that point yet.
That is from my build thread. I did the install of the new switch and sun sensor but got the limited function. Another user there, who I was helping via PM, said he went to the dealer but they were unable to flash LMG to the onboard computer. I haven't made a dealer run yet to confirm.

Does anyone have a knowledgeable dealer they could confirm with?
03-16-2014 11:46 PM
SoCalRubicon Never needed auto headlights, I drive with my headlights on all the time, day or night. It's the first thing I do after starting the vehicle - turn the headlights on.
03-16-2014 10:03 PM
dansb Well crap found more posts from that guy and it did not function properly when installed, stayed on all the time. Chatter is that the dealer has to add sales code LMG to the jeep to make it function; but no one has gotten to that point yet.
03-16-2014 09:18 PM
dansb Pinout information for this and auto temp from various threads. In theory no wiring is needed to add just the auto headlights; just for the auto temp controls. Thought I would post it up though while I had it in front of me.

Sunload sensor (4 pin):
1 auto headlamps signal (22awg WT/VT)
2 sun sensor 1 signal (22awg VT/LB)
3 sun sensor 2 signal (22awg VT/OR)
4 sensor ground (22awg DB/DG)

In-car temp sensor (4 pin):
1 blend door feedback signal (22awg LB/BR)
2 sensor ground (22awg DB/DG)
3 fused run relay output (22awg PK/YL)
4 ground (22awg BK)

Evap temp sensor (2 pin)
1 sensor ground (22awg DB/DG)
2 eva signal (22awg DB/LG)

Hvac Plug (16 pin)
1 blower control (18awg DB/LB)
2 (except start stop system) fused b(+) (i.o.d.) (20awg RD)
2 (start stop system) b(+) (18awg RD)
3 fused run relay output (20awg PK/YL)
4 ground (22awg BK)
5 can interior bus (125k) (-) (22awg WT/OR)
6 can interior bus (125k) (+) (22awg WT/GY)
7 sensor ground (22awg DB/DG)
8 evaporator temperature sensor signal (22awg DB/LG)
9 sun sensor 1 signal (22awg VT/LB)
10 sun sensor 2 signal (22awg VT/OR)
11 recirculation door driver (a) (22awg DB/TN)
12 mode door driver (22awg LB/OR)
13 driver blend door driver (22awg DB/LG)
14 common door driver (22awg DB/LB)
15 auto headlamps signal (22awg WT/VT)
16 blend door feedback signal (22awg LB/BR)
03-16-2014 08:51 PM
dansb More searching and I dug this up. Some great info.

Installing ATC & Auto Headlights but need a bit of help...

So the wiring for the auto headlights is indeed there. But not the auto temp controls. Looks like the sensor w/ the auto temp controls just add additional outputs over the one without, so that sensor will work regardless if you intend to do auto temp or not.

Was going to post the pinouts but getting conflicting information. Will post that up with more searching.
03-16-2014 08:43 PM
Jeffola I will get my hands on the parts and advise., thanks
03-16-2014 08:21 PM
dansb
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Originally Posted by Jeffola View Post
I wish I knew part #'s, I have looked the parts up and find them, but add to cart and no part numbers exist. I really want to add this using factory parts.
Did so research for you since I want to know this answer as well. All this info is for a 2013; 14 info is hard to come by right now.

Sunlight sensor

w/ auto temp control 55111275AA
w/o auto temp control 55111276AA

Other places show the 5111275AA superseded by 68230114AA, and no second option for w/o the auto temp control. So maybe that got superseded also... not sure.

Turn signal switch w/ auto headlights (and fog)
68015101AG

Just taking a guess here but if the wiring is there it should be plug and play.
03-16-2014 07:30 PM
Scott2373 I thought I read somewhere on this forum that all you need to do is install a relay in a certain spot, then disco the battery for 30 minutes to reset the Canbus and next time you start, you'll have DRL's...I'm with the "hater" crowd. I do not like them because it makes people lazy and they then forget all about turning the headlights on at night, so as a result, they're driving around with dim headlights and NO taillights...
03-16-2014 05:28 PM
jp2611 My wife's Camry had them and had "issues"..our '12 Sport does not have them, our '13 300 has them and they seem fine on it...but it also has a funky looking day time light anyway. Our '14 JKU Polar has them but I don't think the wife uses them I rarely drive that Jeep maybe a couple 3 miles a week...I prefer my TJ.....
03-16-2014 05:22 PM
Jeffola
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Originally Posted by ohioviper View Post
Found some parts. For the ones with auto headlights. Do you also have fog lights ?


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I wish I knew part #'s, I have looked the parts up and find them, but add to cart and no part numbers exist. I really want to add this using factory parts.
03-16-2014 05:03 PM
Jeffola I had my dash apart, I see the sun sensor wiring is in place, I would imagine its just a matter of plug and play, the switch and sensor are reasonable, will programming need to be done?
03-04-2014 11:09 AM
dansb
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Originally Posted by Jeffola View Post
Has anyone tried the oem parts route on this ?
Have never seen any reports of someone trying this on a JK. Found this link in the search about someone making this work on a challenger. Maybe with the proper jeep parts it can happen.

adding auto headlamps (challenger) - Dodge Challenger Forum: Challenger & SRT8 Forums
03-04-2014 09:57 AM
Jeffola Has anyone tried the oem parts route on this ?
09-27-2012 08:52 AM
davefr
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Originally Posted by ohioviper View Post
Found some parts. For the ones with auto headlights. Do you also have fog lights ?


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That's good information. Is this all that's required to add them to a Sport?

Do you know if the wiring harness is already in place? Where does the sensor go?

Thanks
09-26-2012 02:08 PM
Hilldweller My PW came with auto-dim mirrors, auto headlights, power seat ----- all things I'd rather not have.
At least the Chrysler electronics have proven themselves unreliable. I got that going for me.
09-26-2012 12:41 PM
ohioviper Found some parts. For the ones with auto headlights. Do you also have fog lights ?


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