|08-11-2008 11:07 AM|
Before you do any more work you need to make the move.
|08-11-2008 11:01 AM|
|snowmanzz13||no i havent, but i'm very social and i know people in other troops that have offered me to come over because they are more then willing to see me get my eagle, as they and their sons have left my troop because they didnt like my scout master and they have all gotten their eagle since, i should do it now but i'm at work and i know as soon as i try to get on the phone i will have a customer|
|08-11-2008 10:53 AM|
Man... that bites
Have you contacted your counsel officer to see if there is another troop to help you finish your quest?
|08-11-2008 10:47 AM|
i'm in scouting right now, glad to see others here. I'm life, very active in my OA Chapter and quite active in the troop, been there with the SPL position, but now i'm getting hosed, my scout master is my friends mom, he hardly does anything, got his eagle, got vigil, and is working at going for section cheif for the OA. I guess it helps his mom is a scout whore, literally. As soon as he got his eagle, she dissapeared, wont anwser calls or anything from me trying to get my eagle as i turn 18 in november. And you know how when you get blue cards when you earn your merit badges, and you are supposed to keep them for eagle when you get your board of review, well NO ONE IN MY TROOP HAS EVER RECEIVED A BLUE CARD. Got to love it, i guess the fact that she works for council and has her finger in everything helps her son out so much you have to love it when someone in my troop a couple years back calls an asks for the scout masters number because he went to council to retrieve his records so he could join another troop, he was only recorded with council as a scout, never advancing in rank or anything.
I have had a great expierence with scouting except for my whore, i mean scout master. And you have to love it when i give her my scout book and she loses it an says she never got it from me!!
sorry, needed to vent alittle
|08-11-2008 09:32 AM|
That is the image from the old school Philmot Belt buckle.
|08-11-2008 03:30 AM|
it looks more gravel like then that pic you got:
|08-10-2008 04:00 PM|
|Unlimited||Me and my two youngest. In the shadow of Baldy, and standing on top:|
|08-10-2008 03:03 PM|
My old scout master.
While I was in El Paso this weekend I was kicking back with my dad right now and we were laughing about some of the old stuff from back in the scouting days.
My dad an I were never real close... had it not been for scouting we may have never spent much time together at all.
One more plus for scouting.
|08-09-2008 01:22 PM|
I'm not sure?
|08-09-2008 01:17 PM|
|nvr-enough||Hey JT, how old is that picture of baldy?|
|08-09-2008 12:36 PM|
Tough to beat!
Rock climbing @ Cow Camp
Schaefers Pass, 6 am
BASE CAMP /Tent City
|08-09-2008 12:25 PM|
|whiteyj||Managed to get to Philmont twice. Never as a youth but made the pilgrimage in 1997 and 2000 as an adult. The ranch is a very special place with a lot of great program and history. But for us on the west coast, I'll take the Sierras. Much better scenery very close to home.|
|08-09-2008 10:01 AM|
Best time of my life.
Some of my fondest memories are related to my days in scouting.
But it is tough to beat the stories I have from when I was 14 and we had one one day off a week when we were between camping sessions. All of the camp counselors would make the one a half mile walk into Cloudcroft NM to cut loose.
They had a bowling center with PIN GIRLS!
God I loved that girl....
|08-08-2008 08:56 PM|
|4point||I was in all 3 Scouting programs, but then I got into 4H and then FFA. Scouting got left behind.|
|08-08-2008 08:50 PM|
|02Prove||Wish I had stuck with it. I knew not what I was REALLY walking away from.|
|08-08-2008 08:42 PM|
|nvr-enough||Yea, I became interested in Rayado after going out there for the second time last last summer. In sounds like a fun program to basically just be woken up and be told we are hiking over this, this and this mountain today. Sounds a little more intense too|
|08-08-2008 08:27 PM|
WOW! that sounds cool!
Looks like an Outward Bound Adventure.
Do it man sounds like the trip of a lifetime.
I'll need to see if I can find a TOPO to this tract!
"The Ultimate Wilderness Challenge"
Older Scouts and Venturers who have mastered basic outdoor skills should consider applying for the challenging and selective Rayado Trek program. Participants will take the most challenging trails, climb rock faces, and stand on mountaintops. Each day holds new challenges and opportunities that encourage participants to attain a high level of personal growth and self-reliance, accomplishing more than they thought possible.
Rayado is designed specifically to challenge participants' mental and physical abilities, and the program is unparalleled for developing outdoor leadership, group dynamics, wilderness problem-solving, and advanced outdoor skills, including:
* Wilderness backpacking skills
* Navigation and travel techniques
* Expedition behavior and group dynamics
* Advanced cooking skills
* Wilderness stewardship (including Leave No Trace skills and ethics)
* Wilderness first aid and backcountry emergency procedures
A Rayado Trek encourages personal growth, teamwork, and leadership ability—desirable qualities for Philmont staff. The most qualified Rayado participants are often encouraged to apply for the elite Philmont staff in future seasons as rangers, backcountry staff, and headquarters staff.
Who May Participate?
To be able to participate in the Rayado Trek program, participants must meet the following requirements:
* Be a registered member of the Boy Scouts of America.
* Be 15 years of age by January 1 of the year they attend or have completed ninth grade and be at least 15 before participation but not yet 21.
* Be in excellent physical condition and able to hike 10 or more miles with a 40- to 50-pound backpack. (Philmont height and weight guidelines will be strictly enforced.)
* Have mastered the skills of Leave No Trace camping and backpacking; previous Philmont experience is not mandatory but is strongly recommended.
* Have a letter of recommendation from an adult Scouter detailing the participantOs backcountry experience and character.
What Activities Does the Program Include?
Rayado participants will backpack with Scouts and Venturers from all over the country, visiting parts of the backcountry that are never seen by expedition campers and participating in activities that are not available to participants in any other program.
Each crew will explore the unexplored and encounter the unexpected; to maintain the elements of surprise and discovery, specific details about trek activities are not disclosed in advance.
What Is the Cost?
The cost of $635 (2008 Season) for 20 days includes crew gear and staff leadership. Rayado scholarships are available (information about scholarships will be sent along with your application form).
How Do I Apply?
Each participant must complete an application form (approved by a parent or guardian, a unit leader, and the local council Scout executive) and provide two letters of recommendation that attest to the participant's backcountry experience and ability to live under remote and primitive conditions.
|08-08-2008 07:04 PM|
In the top 5 things i've ever done, going to philmont makes the list...twice! I am also a member of O.A. however my troop has never really pushed the boys who get elected into it. We usually do the ordeal and then just stop
also my brother has been to Northern tier 3 times and gone to all 3 of the canoe bases there. He says that it is one of the most beautiful places in the world! i can't wait to go up there someday.
Has anyone ever done Rayedo (?) at Philmont? ecause i'm am considering trying it but not sure if i can handle that many days with the same people
|08-08-2008 02:52 PM|
|98TJ||Eagle scout, Vigil, and also the Scoutmasters son. Was heavily involved in the OA served in many positions and even on the newspaper staff at the National OA Conference in 2006. Best time of my life........ next to Sea Base in the Florida Keys. For any of you scouts who have never been it is a must. I have talked to people who have been to every High Adventure in scouting and they have agreed that Sea Base is an experience of a lifetime. Congrats on the eagle bud!!!|
|08-08-2008 11:45 AM|
I was lucky.
But where I joined there were seven active Eagles one guy... A fellow Jeeper from San Antonio got his Eagle the same night I earned my Tenderfoot.
All of my brother scouts were active in the OA and helped me a lot.
I remember when I was First Class and was not Tapped Out at my first Summer Camp Trip. the Guys felt like I was ready my Father strongly suggested I should wait at least one more year. I was heartbroken. Now in retrospect I'm glad he did that for me.
I was much more ready for my Ordeal that following summer.
It must have worked because I was invited to join the summer camp staff that following year. I also became real involved in wilderness survival over the next few years in Scouting.
Scouting was such a big part of my formative years. I think it made me a better husband and father.
One of my favorite places to visit when I go to DC is...
I know why this statue is less than 500 feet from the US Capitol!
|08-08-2008 11:17 AM|
Wow, JT...... Vigil member, I'm impressed! It takes a lot of very hard work and commitment to earn vigil. I'm brotherhood.
My sons had the same experiences that you did, my wife and I were den leaders, I was Cubmaster, and Scoutmaster or assistant throughout the years that my sons were involved. They often complained about being held to a higher standard than the rest of the boys, but my roll as a leader often got them special consideration in other things as well. I really miss my days as a Scout leader and would like to get back involved when I'm done with school. My youngest is still active in his troop as an adult leader, he just got back from a seven day backpack trip with them (lucky little brat). I wish I could have gone with them, but I couldn't get away. The four of us are planning a week long BP trip in the Sierras over Father's day next year.
|08-08-2008 09:46 AM|
Life scout, Order of Arrow Brotherhood, many badges earned. even went to one of the National Jamborees in WV. Was only a couple steps away from Eagle when my father died and got my head on wrong.
Congrats on Eagle! bet it feels great.
|08-08-2008 09:45 AM|
Getting my Eagle was the first great event in my life I know what a big deal it is!
Also got my Vigil in the Order of the Arrow.
Worked a my council Summer Camp in Lincoln County NM for three years
I've been to Philmont Scout Ranch twice and worked on the staff there one year I thought Fly Fishing and Repelling.
And: I had the worst jobs a kid can have in Scouting I was a Den Mother's son in Cub Scouts My uncle was my Webalo leader and a Scout Master's Son as a Boy Scout. You have to do everything twice as well for 1/2 the recognition.
When I was growing up most of my friends were absolutely sure I was going to go to work for the Park Service or some sort of forestry job when I became an adult, because of my love for the outdoors and camping. I have no doubt that it was in Scouting is where I fell in love with Jeep I remember as a kid waiting for Boys Life Magazine just to see the Jeep Ad Centerfold!. I have often considered a career in Professional Scouting... Am I a Scout NERD?
Sometimes I think about getting back in to scouting as an adult leader I just such a bad influence now!
|08-08-2008 09:16 AM|
I am an Eagle Scout as well. I did not ever go to Philmont though.
At the time - I wondered why I bothered. But now that I look back on it, I am very happy that I finished it up.
|08-08-2008 07:48 AM|
|4X4RDSTR||I am embarrassed to say that I was a Cub Scout drop-out, never completing my training.|
|08-08-2008 07:45 AM|
I personally made it to Life Scout. I quit because we moved to England for a few years. I could have rejoined when we came back but choose not to. As Whiteyj said, I think it made me a better Scoutmaster because I regretted not finishing.
Congratulations to both you and your brother on your Eagles!
|08-08-2008 01:59 AM|
|08-08-2008 12:33 AM|
|chiro2736||Made it to Life Scout and went to Philmont, decided not much else to do and felt to old. Regret it a little. But, not much!|
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