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07-11-2014 09:43 AM
2012Cosmos Additional pics from my prior postings....285/70/17 DTs on '13 Moab edition wheels, 1.5" Spidertrax. No rubbing.







07-10-2014 05:43 PM
gtolbert09
2014 JKU Rubicon

I just replace my Stock Wheels and Tires with 17x8 Black Rock viper Wheels with a 4.5 inch BS and P285/70R17 Nitto Terra Grappler Tires. No Lift and No Rubbing

07-09-2014 10:32 PM
jrtubb 18 vs 17 or even 16 rims means for the same size tire diameter (33", 34", 35") you are reducing the sidewall which means less give for bumps.
07-09-2014 06:37 PM
Em52 Dam.... Just saw this (another great video from Teraflex) http://youtu.be/apJiCmyMPnM, can't remember if I did this or not! Almost due for my first tire rotation, will check this then.
07-09-2014 05:22 PM
Em52
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Originally Posted by Golden Boy View Post
based on the op's (1st page) I can run 285/70/17 duratrecs on the 17" x 8 offset 10mm rim above (4.69 backspace if i did maths correctly) with a slight chance of rubbing only on full lock off road which can be easily overcome with a set of spidertraks spacers down the road.. is that correct? -GB
I'd say YES, but the chances of rubbing should be very very slight if any, imho.

Em ...
07-09-2014 05:20 PM
Em52
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Originally Posted by Golden Boy View Post
Let me try this from a different angle. Can anyone advise me on a set up with these conditions; 2012 sahara 4 door unlimited (stock) for no rub on or off road as big as poss. stock suspension so spacers etc using one of these XD811 Rockstar II rims; 17" x 8 offset 10mm 17" x 8 offset 35mm 17" x 9 offset -12mm 18" x 9 offset 0mm 18" x 9 offset 30mm then that rim with what duratrec tire...what combo am I looking at? I am re-reading all the posts and am still thoroughly confused. sorry for the nooob hassle -GB
Go with 17x8 with +10 offset, this is the same as the ALL the AEV wheels. I got 17x8 with +6 offset on my Fuel Anza wheels as that was the closest I could get to +10.

This site helped me do compares and decide, it may help you http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp

Em...
07-09-2014 12:09 PM
Golden Boy based on the op's (1st page)

I can run 285/70/17 duratrecs
on the 17" x 8 offset 10mm rim above (4.69 backspace if i did maths correctly)

with a slight chance of rubbing only on full lock off road which can be easily overcome with a set of spidertraks spacers down the road..

is that correct?

-GB
07-09-2014 11:10 AM
Golden Boy Let me try this from a different angle.
Can anyone advise me on a set up with these conditions;


2012 sahara 4 door unlimited (stock)
for no rub on or off road
as big as poss.
stock suspension
so spacers etc

using one of these XD811 Rockstar II rims;
17" x 8 offset 10mm
17" x 8 offset 35mm
17" x 9 offset -12mm
18" x 9 offset 0mm
18" x 9 offset 30mm

then that rim with what duratrec tire...what combo am I looking at?
I am re-reading all the posts and am still thoroughly confused.

sorry for the nooob hassle

-GB
07-09-2014 09:33 AM
Golden Boy I thought the stock sahara rims are 18?


18 x 7.5 according to the spec sheet I found online....
but yeah just looked at tire size and they 18" rims.

would going up to 18" x 9 create that big of a difference in ride?
07-09-2014 07:43 AM
jrtubb I'd listen to those with 18" too, they seem to have been there done that. I've read many times about ride being pretty harsh with bigger 18". If you are changing rims anyway I'd go with 16".
07-09-2014 07:40 AM
jrtubb
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Originally Posted by Golden Boy View Post
I did
still hard to know what im looking at...

hmmm

ok so the 30mm+ offset is closer to the stock rims offset is it not?
Wouldnt this be smarter to keep it closer to stock in the offset?

-j
I'm not sure what stock offset is, backspacing is more important to reduce if you are going for a bigger tire. Offset adds to this number some, but I'm not sure if it really matters. When I looked at getting rims, backspacing and lug spacing was all I looked at. In the end the 285 look good on my stock 17", the rubbing is pretty minor and only when I hold it hard on the stops left or right.
07-09-2014 05:06 AM
gecko4
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Originally Posted by Golden Boy View Post
Hey peeps

lotsa info here...

still confused, mbbe if i just ask...

Im getting a set of the Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs

to put on a set of the XD811 Rockstar II 's
they offer to offsets;
18" x 9 offset-0mm
18" x 9 offset-30mm

I read the OP, but have a little tardo and still dont fully "get it".

I dont want to lift it, but dont fully understand the offset.

Need heps pairing up the rims with the tires.
want to go big with the Dura's, no lift, no rubbing.

the Goodyear people were pretty clueless, as was the dealership and Big-O tires.

any help would be awesome!!!
ty

-Golden Boy
I put 295/65/18 duratracs on 7031 procomp rims, and they fit with no lift. As I remember, I think they were 4.75 backspacing. You'd have to convert that to offset to compare with your figures. One word of caution, they road terrible. In that size, they are an e rated tire, with a short sidewall. I ran them at 28psi to get a decent ride. The Jeep still felt a little squirly. I'd go smaller rim, lighter tire by my experience.
07-08-2014 10:46 PM
Golden Boy I did
still hard to know what im looking at...

hmmm

ok so the 30mm+ offset is closer to the stock rims offset is it not?
Wouldnt this be smarter to keep it closer to stock in the offset?

-j
07-08-2014 09:36 PM
jrtubb I have a correction, I do have rubbing at full left and right steering in the parking lot. I'll be doing the washer fix for the steering stops soon.
07-08-2014 09:31 PM
jrtubb Did you try plugging in the numbers of the stock rim to the new rims too visually see what the differences do to tire position. It helped me.

Custom rims, wheel tire packages for your ride - RIMSnTIRES.com
07-08-2014 09:01 PM
Golden Boy Hey peeps

lotsa info here...

still confused, mbbe if i just ask...

Im getting a set of the Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs

to put on a set of the XD811 Rockstar II 's
they offer to offsets;
18" x 9 offset-0mm
18" x 9 offset-30mm

I read the OP, but have a little tardo and still dont fully "get it".

I dont want to lift it, but dont fully understand the offset.

Need heps pairing up the rims with the tires.
want to go big with the Dura's, no lift, no rubbing.

the Goodyear people were pretty clueless, as was the dealership and Big-O tires.

any help would be awesome!!!
ty

-Golden Boy
07-08-2014 03:34 PM
jrtubb My Nitto Terra grappler 285/70/17 on stock rims, no spacer, no lift are not sticking out past the fenders.
07-08-2014 02:33 PM
cicatriz63 Anyone have any info on tire size/wheel combo so that the tires DON'T stick out past the fenders? I'm in PA and I know certain places don't care about it but I would rather not risk it. Was debating on just getting the stock sized duratracs and keeping the stock wheels, or going to a 33 with aftermarket wheels.
07-08-2014 12:40 PM
jrtubb
Thanks for the help and info!

Thanks to this thread I have Nitto Terra grappler 285/70/17 installed on my wife's stock 07 JK with no issues! The ride is very nice, better then the horrible Goodyear tires we have been putting up with.
07-03-2014 09:58 AM
Em52
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Originally Posted by jzouy View Post
hey guys, just wondering would the load ratings, i.e D and E make such a huge difference to the JK? I have a 2 Door stock and looking to get the MT AT P3s and people were saying b/c they are rated E, its going to get a little stiff and rough, is this true?? any ideas? Cheers,
Most definitely will give a stiffer ride, even with reduced tire pressure, as strongly recommended due to the light weight of our 2-door! When looking at larger size tires it's difficult finding C load range and theoretically for our vehicle weight would be a B.

For me it came down to 2 choices, GY DuraTrac 315/70R17 - C or MTR 35x12.5R17LT - C. As the MTR is a true 35" and was concerned with the only having 3.73 gears, plus the DuraTrac has a quieter road noise and better snow/ice rating, went with this. These seem to be very popular within jeep forums I've been reading since last year.

These should give a high millage life as there are very lightly loaded, so next tires will most likely be the MTR as I plan to swap the gears before the tires need changing.

Hope this helps?

Em..
07-03-2014 09:36 AM
jzouy hey guys,

just wondering would the load ratings, i.e D and E make such a huge difference to the JK?
I have a 2 Door stock and looking to get the MT AT P3s and people were saying b/c they are rated E, its going to get a little stiff and rough, is this true?? any ideas?

Cheers,
07-03-2014 07:43 AM
Em52 After tons of reading on this on the AEV forum http://forum.aev-conversions.com/showthread.php?t=3759 , the most suggested for mine on 315/70R17 DuraTracs is 28 psi. That's the tire pressure AEV engineers have tested their suspensions with for best road response, suspension operation and control for daily driving .... So I've read.

I've got mine set at 28 psi "cold", meaning tires temperature sitting in shade & at ~70*F. When i ride I notice it climbs up to 30 psi on 90*+ days and at 27psi taking off on cool mornings. Ride and handling is very good by my feel, the 2-door JK is very light weight for these tires. You can always do the "chalk" test on the tires and see how your "foot print" stands?

Em...
07-02-2014 08:06 PM
gecko4 I had to have my e rated 295/65 18 duratracs down at 28psi to keep my fillings in my teeth (and the jeep on the road) Short sidewall + E rated tire = rough ride. I recently sold them and am shopping for a lighter setup.
07-02-2014 12:30 PM
nickmac I'll try 32 and see how it feels.
07-01-2014 08:16 AM
BenoA
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Originally Posted by nickmac View Post
35psi
So you run them as the same pressure of the OEM 32?

I'm at 32.5 with my General Grabber AT2, they feel less stiff.
07-01-2014 07:42 AM
nickmac
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ripnhl2005 View Post
What wheels are those? Meaning what are the specs for backspacing and size? I'm considering 15's but backspacing on some of the wheels is confusing the $hit out of me! I have a 13 JKU.

Thanks
Hi Ripnhl2005,

They are Level 8 Trackers 15x8 5-127 19MTB which I believe means a 4.5" backspacing. Log on or call Discount Tire Direct (DTD) they are awesome and will walk you through the process and answer any question you have.

Check for information on your specific year, but I am under the impression there is no problem going to a 15" (alloy wheel) on the late model JKs, as long as they have the correct backspacing required.
07-01-2014 07:37 AM
nickmac 35psi
07-01-2014 07:36 AM
nickmac
Quote:
Originally Posted by jzouy View Post
Hi nickmac,

Just wondering did you get any problems w/ the 15' wheels running on stock suspensions etc?
B/c I was thinking of changing to a 16' or 15' on my stock 13 JK, but was told it was not possible.

Cheers mate!
Hi jzouy,

Check for information on your specific year, but I am under the impression there is no problem going to a 15" (alloy wheel) on the late model JKs, as long as they have the correct backspacing required. Also a 33x12.5x15 tire (approx. 315/75/15) is the largest tire to fit stock suspension and tire carriers. If you want to go bigger now you have to start thinikng about rear tire carriers, lift kits, possible re-gearing, and etc...

I too debated going for a 16" or even 17" but the cost savings and the "look" of a fatter tire (more sidewall) brought me back to the 15".

Call DTD they are awesome and will walk you through the process and answer any question you have. Also do continue to research this forum for advice, it took me almost a year until I finally pulled the trigger.
06-30-2014 03:00 AM
jzouy
any problems with changing to a 15' ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by nickmac View Post
This thread is awesome and the OP is exactly what I needed. I just ordered and received my new wheels and tires from DTD. 15" Level 8 trackers and 33" Goodyear Duratracs.

I do plan on adding a small lift kit or leveling kit in the near future but because I'm running stock suspension the advice here was priceless and many JK owners should be thankful.
Hi nickmac,

Just wondering did you get any problems w/ the 15' wheels running on stock suspensions etc?
B/c I was thinking of changing to a 16' or 15' on my stock 13 JK, but was told it was not possible.

Cheers mate!
06-25-2014 02:52 PM
Ripnhl2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickmac View Post
This thread is awesome and the OP is exactly what I needed. I just ordered and received my new wheels and tires from DTD. 15" Level 8 trackers and 33" Goodyear Duratracs.

I do plan on adding a small lift kit or leveling kit in the near future but because I'm running stock suspension the advice here was priceless and many JK owners should be thankful.
What wheels are those? Meaning what are the specs for backspacing and size? I'm considering 15's but backspacing on some of the wheels is confusing the $hit out of me! I have a 13 JKU.

Thanks
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