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07-21-2012 10:07 PM
GoldenSahara00 They are all expensive of you ask me, and ecgs is about as American as you can get, unless I missed something.
07-21-2012 08:29 PM
Lineman827 just checked em out, price is fairly close. i was also lookin at superior axel.. AMERICAN MADE!! a lil more expensive, (locked) but i do like supporting AMERICAN businesses
07-21-2012 08:24 PM
GoldenSahara00 Good advice and you can get a loaded up 8.8 for about the same price as an unlocked 44 from g2/quad if I remember correctly.
07-21-2012 06:49 PM
Lineman827 thnx rda!!!
07-21-2012 05:46 PM
rda616
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Originally Posted by Lineman827

d44 crappy??? ok, im not a gear head, and new to jeeps. my d35 just died on me & am i considering a d44. should i not? i have a 4" lift w/35" tires. i was lookin on quadratec at the g2 d44 w/disc conversion.
A dana 44 isn't crappy. A dana 44 front axle doesn't offer enough of a strength gain over a dana 30 front axle to justify the amount of work it takes to put it in a jeep. A dana 44 rear is much stronger then a dana 35 and is a great upgrade. That being said, if you are spending that kind of money on an axle then you need to look at a ford explorer 8.8 from ecgs. The 8.8 is a stronger axle then the dana 44 and will likely cost a lot less than a g2 axle will.
07-21-2012 05:31 PM
Lineman827
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00
You should stick to 35s and building your hp30. Not worth the work to compromise for a crappy d44.
d44 crappy??? ok, im not a gear head, and new to jeeps. my d35 just died on me & am i considering a d44. should i not? i have a 4" lift w/35" tires. i was lookin on quadratec at the g2 d44 w/disc conversion.
07-20-2012 11:33 PM
GoldenSahara00 You should stick to 35s and building your hp30. Not worth the work to compromise for a crappy d44.
07-20-2012 10:40 PM
lindel
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Originally Posted by TJe0454 View Post
turns out its a passenger side drop well what years are good to pull a d44 front from? something with a close width to the d30....
Any 80-91 Jeep Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer or 80-83 NT Cherokee, with the exception of the 84/85 year models. Those were vacuum operated front axles, and worth staying away from.

As far as strength, they'll be much stronger than the D30. Leaf spring perches that'll have to be removed and spring cup will need to be welded on.

They'll have 6 lug rotors, disc brakes and will fit 15" wheels.
07-20-2012 08:23 PM
rda616
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Originally Posted by TJe0454
turns out its a passenger side drop well what years are good to pull a d44 front from? something with a close width to the d30....
The only one that is the same, or even close to the same width is a 1980 + wagoneer axle and they are low pinion. They really aren't worth swaping in. I just took one out of my jeep and replaced it with a high pinion 30.
07-20-2012 08:18 PM
TJe0454 turns out its a passenger side drop well what years are good to pull a d44 front from? something with a close width to the d30....
07-20-2012 02:43 PM
GoldenSahara00 Tom I find it funny that I suggested a hp44 to you a few weeks ago when you mentioned going to 35s, and you told me it was a bad idea.

You'll have a sweet axle setup when you finally do pick a front axle.
07-20-2012 02:06 PM
Ibuildembig Yup, didnt think about that.....dont see too many of them around here in the last 20 years LOL
07-20-2012 02:01 PM
rda616
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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig
Well, if it is indeed a Ford with leaf springs, then there is only one it could be and that's out of a supercab 74-79 and would not have cast wedges (that's 78-79 only, and only 1/2 ton regular cab). This is the reason we need pics I am all for 60 fronts, just most people dont want to open their checkbook up that far
Definitely need pic's. I'm guessing a waggy lp44 if it's drivers side drop and 6 lug.
07-20-2012 01:58 PM
Ibuildembig Well, if it is indeed a Ford with leaf springs, then there is only one it could be and that's out of a supercab 74-79 and would not have cast wedges (that's 78-79 only, and only 1/2 ton regular cab). This is the reason we need pics I am all for 60 fronts, just most people dont want to open their checkbook up that far
07-20-2012 01:48 PM
rda616
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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig
But being high pinion will be strength point, and full width is alot more stable
Not really . The fail points are the same on both the 30 and 44, so the strength gain in the reverse spiral gear is moot. Also if it's a half ton ford 44 with cast wedges the tubes are weak, so the housing would need tubes . Really if it's not 3/4 ton I wouldn't even think of touching it. Honesty if the op wants 37" tires he needs a 60 , a hybrid 9" , or a hybrid 44.
07-20-2012 01:34 PM
Ibuildembig But being high pinion will be strength point, and full width is alot more stable
07-20-2012 12:40 PM
rda616 The swap isn't really worth doing . There is only one vehicle that came with a hub that would work on that axle that would get you a 5x4.5 bolt pattern . Some d100 pickups had those hubs and they were super weak and unreliable .

The ford 44 is 67.5" wms to wms . A tj is 60.5" wms to wms .

Also the most common failure points on a Dana 30 and Dana 44 are the same . The universal is generally the first thing to fail on both these axles and they both use the same size universal joint . Another point of failure is the ball joints and they are also of the same small variety , so again no real strength gains.
07-20-2012 11:48 AM
TJe0454
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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig View Post
Well the years do matter, but Ford didnt use a Dana 44 after 1979. Get some pics and we can tell you what it is
ill grab a pic when im over there today. thanks man.
07-20-2012 11:43 AM
Ibuildembig Well the years do matter, but Ford didnt use a Dana 44 after 1979. Get some pics and we can tell you what it is
07-20-2012 11:39 AM
TJe0454
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Originally Posted by Ibuildembig View Post
Hmmmm, chevy never made any solid axle that was drivers drop diff.....maybe he is cornfused and its a ford?
possible. they have a bunch of axles laying around in their shop. (my girlfriend relayed the info so...lol)
so let's say, for the moment, that its a ford d44. i know the year matters but i dont have the info right now.
07-20-2012 11:36 AM
Ibuildembig Hmmmm, chevy never made any solid axle that was drivers drop diff.....maybe he is cornfused and its a ford?
07-20-2012 11:34 AM
TJe0454
6 bolt chevy dana 44 front swap into TJ

hey all, came upon a cheap d44 front my girlfriend's brother has sitting around. all i know is that he wants to get rid of it, its a 6 bolt chevy d44, driver side diff, and currently set up for leaf springs. he would be doing the welding and mount work (hes works for a fabrication shop). anyone have experience with this? is it as easy as getting 5x4.5 hubs with matching spline count and welding on control arm/track bar mounts?
now that i have an 8.8 in the rear, i felt that a d30 would be my weak link. im planning on throwing the d44 up front, c gussets, and shafts all around to run 37s.

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