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07-23-2012 02:52 PM
Rmiller31 +1 for the ace rails. I haven't needed mine yet but I saw a jeep in front of me slam onto a rock and the rails did their job.

If I find a set of rubi takeoffs I'm probably going to add those when I find a cheap pair.
07-23-2012 02:51 PM
suicideking
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Originally Posted by pluke the 2 View Post
I've heard of probably 1 bad complaint with them on rocks. I don't know if the guy was doing serious crawling but he took them off.
I have the Ace. They're great rails! My only complaint is they don't have the ground clearance of other rails. Since they were made to go below the Rubi rails, they sit lower than most. Most rails bolt or weld on at the same level or higher than the Rubi rails.

I got them because my wife wanted a step for herself and the kids and she offered to pay for them (instead of coming out my Jeep money). If you don't need the step and wheel hard and would benefit from a little extra ground clearance, I'd recommend something else.
07-23-2012 12:31 PM
snochick Lol nope. It's actually duplicolor engine block enamel. It's a little darker than the gecko but I did that on purpose for my accents bc my shock boots would look stupid otherwise.

I figured the ace ones must mount to something sturdy just had to ask what when I saw 3 mount points. Too many of u use them for em to be junk. So I had to ask. I personally didn't look at them much bc I picked mine out when I chose the bumpers. Never hurts to know a little about what else is out there though
07-23-2012 11:35 AM
Proxy404
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Originally Posted by snochick View Post
You and I are in the same career then. These took Hubby and I around an hour or so to install yesterday. And we were taking our time b/c the bedliner I painted them with wasn't completely set yet. They're made by Poison Spyder Customs. A little more money, but worth it IMO.

There wasn't any grinding or cutting, just drill a couple holes and bolt right up. The holes on the bottom use a nutplate similar to one of the clipped ones you find for certain aircraft panels in those places you can't get more than one hand in.

To give you an idea how sturdy they're built I took a pic Friday of them disassembled before paint. That slider is just as thick as the mounting flange. Similar design to the ones you posted as well.


Just saw these on your Gecko and fell in love. Must have missed them on your "Twins Build" thread. The body color plate on the slider is sick. Just added these to my list of nee... er... "wants". Did you buy the Gecko paint from quadratec and do it yourself?
07-23-2012 11:27 AM
paychex.308 I personally like my "weld-on" EVO RockSliders.
07-23-2012 11:21 AM
pluke the 2 I've heard of probably 1 bad complaint with them on rocks. I don't know if the guy was doing serious crawling but he took them off.
07-23-2012 10:43 AM
Six
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Originally Posted by snochick View Post
Where are the body mounts for the ace ones? 3 points sounds odd to me. My psc ones use 6 studs on the side and 9 underneath. But too many people use ace for them to not be somewhat secure.
3 on a JKU, two on a JK. It's the large bolts and washers that holder the body to the frame on the sides. Just look under the side of your Jeep and you can't miss them. Lots of people bounce them off of rocks and terrain and everything else they can for them to not be "somewhat" secure enough.

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Originally Posted by Griffith View Post
@ColoradoCJ7, yeah i have to agree... I really like the way yours look, will definitely look into the ACE sliders
Just put a set on mine this week and they fit perfect and seem really steady. There's a really long thread about the ACE Engineering Rock Rail on here with lots of owner input and testimonials.
07-23-2012 10:00 AM
Griffith @ColoradoCJ7, yeah i have to agree... I really like the way yours look, will definitely look into the ACE sliders
07-23-2012 07:49 AM
snochick Where are the body mounts for the ace ones? 3 points sounds odd to me. My psc ones use 6 studs on the side and 9 underneath. But too many people use ace for them to not be somewhat secure.
07-22-2012 11:35 PM
ColoradoCJ7 I have the ACE sliders on my JKU Rubicon and love them. They even fit with the stock Rubicon sliders still on, I hate the look of the pinch welds and love the lifetime warranty. These mount on 3 body mounts on each side, very sturdy!


07-22-2012 11:10 PM
snochick
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Originally Posted by xxss
Do yourself a favor and check out ACE rails. For the price a far better product.

This coming from someone with those Smittybilt rails on mine. Install was not a problem for me, but these rails are purely for looks. They sit so tight to the body and are only mounted on the 2 end body mounts. There is no support in the centre.

That being said....wanna buy mine? I'm looking at the PSC sliders next!
Lol not that it really matters but I did discover they're mud traps today. :grin:
07-22-2012 10:56 PM
pluke the 2
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Originally Posted by GREEN-MACHINE
about 150 pounds for a 4 door,,, and yeah the shitty build are just that,, took my over 4 hours to put the left side on,,, none of the holes lined up... about an inch off..
He's talking about thin wall tubing versus DOM
07-22-2012 09:48 PM
xxss Do yourself a favor and check out ACE rails. For the price a far better product.

This coming from someone with those Smittybilt rails on mine. Install was not a problem for me, but these rails are purely for looks. They sit so tight to the body and are only mounted on the 2 end body mounts. There is no support in the centre.

That being said....wanna buy mine? I'm looking at the PSC sliders next!
07-22-2012 08:05 PM
snochick
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Originally Posted by MotorCityJK View Post
I'm pretty sure ALL the tubular rails are hollow. Can you imagine how heavy a 1.5-2" solid bar of steel would be?
I know mine from PSC are about 79lbs for the pair according to the Fedex packing list that was on them. So yea, the idea of that makes me shudder. Mine were heavy enough.
07-22-2012 06:31 PM
GREEN-MACHINE
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Originally Posted by MotorCityJK View Post
I'm pretty sure ALL the tubular rails are hollow. Can you imagine how heavy a 1.5-2" solid bar of steel would be?
about 150 pounds for a 4 door,,, and yeah the shitty build are just that,, took my over 4 hours to put the left side on,,, none of the holes lined up... about an inch off..
07-22-2012 05:42 PM
MotorCityJK
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Originally Posted by suicideking View Post
<snip> They must be hollow to dent that easily. I slammed on the same rock with Ace rails and didn't even make a new scratch.

So if you want them for looks, maybe they're ok. If you want them to protect your sides, get something else. You want something solid (not hollow) and preferrably made in the US. <snip>
I'm pretty sure ALL the tubular rails are hollow. Can you imagine how heavy a 1.5-2" solid bar of steel would be?
07-22-2012 02:06 PM
snochick
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Originally Posted by suicideking View Post
This is what I've heard about them, they look ok, but don't do well as far as protection goes. I went on an easy trail last week (Miller Jeep trail, CA) and someone that has Smittybuilt rails bent and dented his passenger side rail on a minor rock. They must be hollow to dent that easily. I slammed on the same rock with Ace rails and didn't even make a new scratch.

So if you want them for looks, maybe they're ok. If you want them to protect your sides, get something else. You want something solid (not hollow) and preferrably made in the US.

Ace and Rugged Ridge are good rails that don't break the bank. Poison Spyder definitely makes high quality stuff, but very expensive.
Yes, PSC is pricey. I was looking for months when we didn't even have mine yet and it was only the Rubi. Took me a lot of thinking before I decided to go with them. It's completely understandable that a lot of people pass them up due to price though. Not one you can go with if you're on a very tight budget. I'm lucky enough that hubby's active military and his travel pay for all of his TDY's is what ends up paying for our builds.
07-22-2012 02:01 PM
suicideking
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Originally Posted by pluke the 2 View Post
Their Nick name is shitty built.



Be prepared to spend $$ on a new panel
This is what I've heard about them, they look ok, but don't do well as far as protection goes. I went on an easy trail last week (Miller Jeep trail, CA) and someone that has Smittybuilt rails bent and dented his passenger side rail on a minor rock. They must be hollow to dent that easily. I slammed on the same rock with Ace rails and didn't even make a new scratch.

So if you want them for looks, maybe they're ok. If you want them to protect your sides, get something else. You want something solid (not hollow) and preferrably made in the US.

Ace and Rugged Ridge are good rails that don't break the bank. Poison Spyder definitely makes high quality stuff, but very expensive.
07-22-2012 01:07 PM
HAFICON I love my Rugged Ridge, they don’t hug the body, but they do still provide a step and very durable armor, I have used them a time or two. Super easy install no loss of ground clearance. I like them sticking out a little more for instance when I slid into a tree should you jeep tilt into the tree it is less likely to hit the top of your rig or door. Just gives you a few more inches on the side..

07-22-2012 01:04 PM
HAFICON Double post
07-22-2012 12:54 PM
snochick You and I are in the same career then. These took Hubby and I around an hour or so to install yesterday. And we were taking our time b/c the bedliner I painted them with wasn't completely set yet. They're made by Poison Spyder Customs. A little more money, but worth it IMO.

There wasn't any grinding or cutting, just drill a couple holes and bolt right up. The holes on the bottom use a nutplate similar to one of the clipped ones you find for certain aircraft panels in those places you can't get more than one hand in.

To give you an idea how sturdy they're built I took a pic Friday of them disassembled before paint. That slider is just as thick as the mounting flange. Similar design to the ones you posted as well.


07-22-2012 12:37 PM
Griffith Ah interesting. I was under the impression by looking at it that it was pretty much a bolt on. Is this something that i might want to get professionally installed? I hate paying people to do work on my vehicles, mainly because i'm an aircraft mechanic lol. But if there's a chance that i can mess up a new wrangler i'd rather not risk it...
07-22-2012 11:43 AM
bcbud I have installed several pairs and even with grinding the wife and I are well under an hour for install. Dremel makes a bit that looks like a mini pine cone with really sharp edges that eats thru metal. Probably takes less time than to grind the washers on the Ace sliders.
07-22-2012 11:30 AM
pluke the 2 Their Nick name is shitty built.



Be prepared to spend $$ on a new panel
07-22-2012 10:13 AM
kbwwolf
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Originally Posted by Griffith View Post
Thanks for the fast reply, appreciate it!
Be prepared for possible installation headaches. I had to grind mine several times before they would fit on the body mount holes. Grind, rustproof and paint. Turned a 1-hour install into a 2-day fight.

Doesn't happen to everyone, but it happens. And I don't mind the extra work. Mildly annoying, though, the degree to which it was off.
07-22-2012 05:06 AM
Griffith Thanks for the fast reply, appreciate it!
07-22-2012 05:02 AM
blkrubi88 Smittybilt
07-22-2012 04:56 AM
Griffith
Need to know what brand this rock slider is

Can anyone tell me what brand/model this side rock slider is???


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