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08-01-2012 10:20 AM
cconry21 Im in college too haha and workin my ass off. I just want the ladies to look at my jeep and say damn thats sexy. I only wheel like once every 4 months and thats to the sand dunes but I want something good for the road and it will look sexy haha.
08-01-2012 08:32 AM
patrickstarfox
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Originally Posted by Imped View Post
All the RC 2.5" kit is is springs and shocks......crappy shocks and decent springs.

There's a lot more to suspension than that. If you want to be able to play hard during the weekends and drive to work on Monday, you've got to cater to the more important aspects of the suspension. Control arms and track bars--the items that locate and position the axles. If those use crappy parts, are of a poor design, or are poorly executed then the last thing you'll be worrying about is your stiff shocks or sagging springs.

Suspension needs to be viewed on a component basis. The term "lift kit" means absolutely nothing of value.
very true.
but without wanting to dump a TON of money into mine - i gained the performance ability that i wanted to have fun and look damn good with 33's. all im saying is that for $300, im very happy. i WISH i had the money to do a 4" lift with long arms and adjustable trackbar and all the bells and whitles, but its not realistic being that im a college kid. it all depends on your budget. lol

anyway, i expected some flack for the RC suggestion. im done hijacking this thread. i hope that cconroy21 will be happy with whatever he chooses.
08-01-2012 08:25 AM
Imped All the RC 2.5" kit is is springs and shocks......crappy shocks and decent springs.

There's a lot more to suspension than that. If you want to be able to play hard during the weekends and drive to work on Monday, you've got to cater to the more important aspects of the suspension. Control arms and track bars--the items that locate and position the axles. If those use crappy parts, are of a poor design, or are poorly executed then the last thing you'll be worrying about is your stiff shocks or sagging springs.

Suspension needs to be viewed on a component basis. The term "lift kit" means absolutely nothing of value.
08-01-2012 08:15 AM
patrickstarfox
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Originally Posted by Derp View Post
Were not lift snobs. Were just people who would rather spend money once. It takes me 130 hours of work to afford a savvy kit and half that for a RC lift. I'm sorry but 65 hours of work to pay for something I could have had the first time around is down right stupid and that money could be going to much better things rather than the same thing twice. I prefer working 130 hours once v.s. 195 hours for two lifts. I'll take option one all day long to afford a quality lift.
all im saying is that thats 2 strong success stories for the 2.5 RC lift.
theres up and downs to all of them. my lift suits my needs. its just an option. of course when you research these things online theres always good reviews and terrible reviews. so spend what you can afford to and go wheel the hell out of it
08-01-2012 07:54 AM
geiman
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Originally Posted by madkinstx View Post
Don't let lift kit snobs scar you away, get what you can afford, have fun and if you find it lacking down the road upgrade.
I thought the same as you at first; I got one year out of my Zone lift before the control arms wore out and it wobbled terribly driving down the road. Not to mention it bent my control arm mounts up pretty bad. And that was all from what I would consider pretty easy wheeling, with most of the time spent on the road. I don't feel like I got my moneys worth out of it, but that's just me. I expected it to last longer than a year.
08-01-2012 12:16 AM
Derp
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Originally Posted by madkinstx
I have a Rough Country 2.5 x kit. Had it for about 2 months now. I have wheeled it really hard right along side of some jeeps with much more expensive lifts and have no complaints so far. Those other more expensive kits may last longer but they cost 2 to 3 times more so if I get some good years out if mine before I upgrade then I've more than got my money out of it. Most importantly I'm having a blast now with a very capable lift kit. Don't let lift kit snobs scar you away, get what you can afford, have fun and if you find it lacking down the road upgrade.
Were not lift snobs. Were just people who would rather spend money once. It takes me 130 hours of work to afford a savvy kit and half that for a RC lift. I'm sorry but 65 hours of work to pay for something I could have had the first time around is down right stupid and that money could be going to much better things rather than the same thing twice. I prefer working 130 hours once v.s. 195 hours for two lifts. I'll take option one all day long to afford a quality lift.
07-31-2012 10:03 PM
madkinstx I have a Rough Country 2.5 x kit. Had it for about 2 months now. I have wheeled it really hard right along side of some jeeps with much more expensive lifts and have no complaints so far. Those other more expensive kits may last longer but they cost 2 to 3 times more so if I get some good years out if mine before I upgrade then I've more than got my money out of it. Most importantly I'm having a blast now with a very capable lift kit. Don't let lift kit snobs scar you away, get what you can afford, have fun and if you find it lacking down the road upgrade.
07-31-2012 09:07 PM
cconry21 Zone looks like they have a decent lift
07-31-2012 09:52 AM
Derp
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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00
I would go with the rough country, so when you change your setup later once your learn more, you won't have wasted as much money

If you want a cheap lift, then you can go rough country. My buddy Invert Chaos was really disapointed when he saw how much his springs have sagged compared to mine, however. Maybe he got a bad batch of the old springs, or maybe its just RC's quality control.

As far as the best setup, I really don't think any of us have the money for that right now, and if you do, start reading, because it will take you a while to know what your doing and to purchase and build it all. Do some reading on link suspension if your really gona dump money on expensive arms, you might as well change some things around while your spending money.
And that's why you don't waste money on rough country -!-. Atleast go zone..
07-31-2012 07:31 AM
GoldenSahara00 I would go with the rough country, so when you change your setup later once your learn more, you won't have wasted as much money

If you want a cheap lift, then you can go rough country. My buddy Invert Chaos was really disapointed when he saw how much his springs have sagged compared to mine, however. Maybe he got a bad batch of the old springs, or maybe its just RC's quality control.

As far as the best setup, I really don't think any of us have the money for that right now, and if you do, start reading, because it will take you a while to know what your doing and to purchase and build it all. Do some reading on link suspension if your really gona dump money on expensive arms, you might as well change some things around while your spending money.
07-31-2012 07:22 AM
Imped
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Originally Posted by Derp View Post

My best advice is Bds coils and savvy CA's with savvy fox resi's. Doesn't get much better than that.
That's a very nice setup but believe me, it can get much better.
07-31-2012 12:29 AM
Derp
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Originally Posted by cconry21
Does anyone know how the bds 3 inch lift is with the bds/fox 2.0 shox?
It's not bad but the fox shox aren't paired correctly to each lift and are notorious for being the wrong length shock.

My best advice is Bds coils and savvy CA's with savvy fox resi's. Doesn't get much better than that.
07-30-2012 03:47 PM
cconry21 Does anyone know how the bds 3 inch lift is with the bds/fox 2.0 shox?
07-30-2012 08:08 AM
Frshmt
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Originally Posted by cconry21 View Post
Am I allowed to use jk shocks since I have a tj?
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Originally Posted by Frshmt View Post
Stock shocks from a JK are great. That's what we have on my wife's TJ and she loves it. You'll need to grind down the sleeve in the lower end of the rears and swap the bar pins from the fronts.
07-30-2012 07:35 AM
patrickstarfox im about to get flamed for this comment...but i have no problems with mine, so im just gonna say what i have and offer it as an idea here...

I have the RC 2.5" suspension lift. coils and shocks. love it. in my opinion its just as smooth or smoother than my stock shocks (maybe they were shot) but ive had no problems with it at all. all i did was swap the coils and shockas (and i did a Steering stabiliser while i was at it) ive got mine on 33's and it looks perfect to me. it has seen some mild offroading so far and works great - ill really be putting her to the test here this weekend though at the UNF trails.

good luck, and listen to these guys...thay usually know what they are talking about. the Zone combo lift isnt a bad deal...i sometimes think i shoulda saved a little mroe and gotten that...but ill probably just do a 1.25" BL and a 1" mml soon enough
good luck
Patrick
07-30-2012 06:58 AM
Imped It wouldn't matter in California.....

I was being sarcastic because it was a ridiculous question.
07-30-2012 12:09 AM
Derp You can get swag with it as long as you don't live somewhere like California.

Your best bet is Bds coils and quality shocks imo
07-29-2012 10:12 PM
Imped
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Originally Posted by cconry21 View Post
Am I allowed to use jk shocks since I have a tj?
No, it's against the law.
07-29-2012 05:31 PM
cconry21 Am I allowed to use jk shocks since I have a tj?
07-29-2012 04:38 PM
Derp Your most budget based bang for your buck would be Bds 2" coils front and rear200$ and jk shocks
07-29-2012 04:35 PM
Frshmt Stock shocks from a JK are great. That's what we have on my wife's TJ and she loves it. You'll need to grind down the sleeve in the lower end of the rears and swap the bar pins from the fronts.

I wouldn't bother prettying up your coils. If you actually go off-road it will not take long before they're dirty again.
07-29-2012 04:14 PM
cconry21 Any suggestions for good shocks without breaking the bank because my shocks are sooo stiff and I have to hear from my gf how bumpy the ride is haha. And do you think it would looj good if I spray painted the coil springs and put a gloss layer over them? Cause ill prolly get those coil spacers. I want an overall beefy stance and a good ride.
07-29-2012 10:10 AM
Frshmt Didn't mean to sound like such an ass about the RC lift. They're significantly cheaper for a very good reason. It will ride like a brick, as was mentioned early in this thread.

To give you an idea, my wife's Jeep is in the process of getting the following:

[Done] 2" budget boost ($100) which includes 2" spacers and extended bumpstops
[Done] Stock JK shocks (free from my JK) (good for 3" lift on TJ while retaining smooth ride)
1998 Grand Cherokee with V8 front springs (3" lift on TJ- remove front spacers with these)
1995 Wrangler (YJ) brake lines (a couple inches longer than stock without breaking bank)
[Done] Adjustable front lower control arms (can't remember brand, but got a good deal)
[Done] 1.5" wheel spacers ($200) (not necessary if you have aftermarket wheels)
JKS Quicker Disconnects in front and used (unknown brand) extended swaybar links in rear
33x10.50-15 BFG KM-2 tires (great on street and trails while remaining narrow to keep rotational weight down)

Here is her Jeep flexing out on an RTI ramp with just what's listed as done:

Front swaybar connected:



Front swaybar disconnected:



The stock suspension is pretty flexy so if all you need is clearance for 33s on a budget, get a 2" budget boost, a 1.25" body lift, and throw in the 1" motor mount lift while you're at it.
07-29-2012 09:40 AM
cconry21 ok im just kinda new to the lift game and I have a lot to think about. But thank you all for the advice.
07-29-2012 07:46 AM
Frshmt Do not buy a rough country lift.
07-29-2012 07:43 AM
Frshmt It's been said a couple times but you're not listening, so let me dedicate the next post to the best advice you've received in this thread...
07-29-2012 04:22 AM
rda616
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Originally Posted by cconry21
What should I do to get proper alignment If I get the rough country 3.25 inch body lift? Ill have the stock control arms or should invest in some adjustable LCA's do I need uppers too?
You mean 3.25" suspension lift . Not a 3.25" body lift. The 3.25" suspension lift will raise the jeep and in doing so will pull the axles closer together. This means rear the tires move closer to the front side of the rear wheel well and cause an uneven gap that looks ugly. The same goes for the front with the axle being pulled back. So yeah, with any suspension lift you will see this effect and the higher you go the more pronounced it will be with a fixed length factory arm.

2.5" is about where I believe the difference is still bearable and anything over that really needs adjustable to reposition the axles. This is from an esthetic point of view. From a performance point you can't beat an adjustable control arm with Johnny joints at both ends, but for a daily driver that sees mild to moderate offroading the stock arms will work .
07-29-2012 02:31 AM
Derp
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Originally Posted by cconry21
What should I do to get proper alignment If I get the rough country 3.25 inch body lift? Ill have the stock control arms or should invest in some adjustable LCA's do I need uppers too?
Save up and eventaully get all 8 adjustable.
07-29-2012 12:03 AM
cconry21 What should I do to get proper alignment If I get the rough country 3.25 inch body lift? Ill have the stock control arms or should invest in some adjustable LCA's do I need uppers too?
07-26-2012 09:22 PM
Derp
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Originally Posted by cconry21
I ment should I get heavier duty lower control arms?
I would
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