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07-24-2014 04:56 AM
GoldenSahara00 Zero issues for me... But my exhaust dumps out under the pass door. Ran a new cat and high clearance muffler (hush power II) for the tummy tuck and gave me a ton of room. I feel confident however that I could have run it to the stock location.

I wouldn't change diameter but run a smaller muffler if you still have the stock one. The diff offset is very little and honestly I don't think you'll have an issue.
07-23-2014 09:17 PM
O_M_Jeep Wow, about 75 minutes to read this whole thread, I'm surprised at how many people ask questions that are answered several times in preceding pages, anyway, I just got my 8.8, out of a '99 Exploder, and it was clean and and a nice axle to start with.

I have wheeled my Š-35c very hard over the years, alloy shafts, Superior truss, Tru-Trac, 4.88s, and 33"s. It's worked so well for years, never an issue, but lately I find myself, late at night, to my shame, on TireRack and 4WD and other sites stealing looks and pricing 35"s and 37"s. So the Š-35c has to go, a sad day, but I'll sell all but the housing and brakes to someone who is making a trail capable DD.

I'm planning to do a ton of work on this install, Tru-Trac again (I love it where I live, snow & ice 9 months a year), truss, triangulated 4-link, air-shocks (coil-less coil-overs), fuel cell and back half.

I'm curious about just one thing (to start with anyway), I'm reading the off-set is not a huge deal, Stu Olsen covers it very well, a brazillion thanks to Stu and his contributers, but I'm wondering if I should relocate the exhaust and maybe change to a smaller diameter muffler to avoid any interference, I only saw one person post in here that the u-joint was rubbing the muffler, but I hate to find out at the last minute.

I am planning long arms and a small stretch, maybe out to 100", so I think that will solve the proximity issue (if any). Has anyone noticed any problems with the 8.8 housing being off-center?

Thanks for the input.

This is what I found delivered to my house one day, $250 for a complete assembly.
07-10-2014 06:30 AM
Digger84 Any grease use quite sparing because you don't want in on friction surfaces

Moving points that could use grease on a drum brake

Threads in auto adjuster
Pivot point of each shoe
Inner cable to lubricate it where it slide against the housing it slides in
07-10-2014 03:13 AM
Martin_N Ok so I got the 8.8 disassembled now, cleaned up and ready to go to shop this Saturday where they will weld the new Artec brackets and truss on.

Meantime I'm working on the brakes. I'm rebuilding the emergency brake and to do so have purchased a kit with new brake shoes and a kit with new springs etc.

Now the kit with the springs also includes a bit of 'white lithium grease'. Does anybody know what I am supposed to do with this grease / where to apply it??

Thanks,
Martin

Ps. when I began with this project I was really affraid it would be too difficult for my limited skills, but learning a lot along the way and the feeling of satisfaction will be awesome once the 8.8 is under my TJ
06-28-2014 03:00 AM
Martin_N Ok thanks. Indeed does not seem very difficult....will just pull the shafts then.

First need to make some decisions on my final set-up of the drive-line....right now running dropped t-case without SYE / double cardan shaft. If I want the shop to weld the brackets correctly I do need to figure out first what I will do.....normal SYE, super short SYE, stick to stock skid plate or flat one...

It never stops does it? :-p
06-24-2014 01:42 AM
fthwsrthu Just to be clear...this isnt mine. I came across it on another site and felt that it should be passed along. Either way, it looked like it had just about every answer to the questions that are frequently asked.
06-22-2014 10:31 PM
GoldenSahara00 You can but its super hard. Crack the cover, drain it. And then pull the c clips and shafts. It's very easy. You need to undo the springs and stuff holding the e brake together and then you can unbolt the bolts holding the dust shields on.
06-22-2014 06:56 AM
Martin_N Probably simple question.... Trying to figure out how to disassemble the 8.8. I got the brake calipers and brake discs of but bit stuck now. Do I need to take out the axle shafts in order to get the dust shield, emergency brake etc? Or can I get all this stuff off (and cleaned up / rebuild where needed) without taking the axle shaft out (which I'd prefer)

The only bolts I can reach right now are the 4 bolts on each side at the very end of the axle tube, but all of them are really stuck. Not sure what part(s) will come off in case I do manage to unbolt these?
06-18-2014 07:16 PM
GoldenSahara00 The LCAs sway bar mounts and shocks are all independent but they have good instructions on how to set them up.
06-18-2014 02:37 PM
Ryan Angela Good info, thanks. The impression I got was that once the truss was set, everything else is a no brainer. I should know better than that by now though.
06-17-2014 04:40 PM
juan_p__m
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Can you elaborate on the "mistake?" As soon as I hear back from the shop that's assessing my 8.8, I'll be ordering the artec truss kit. Glad to hear it's running smooth for you, interesting about the brakes though. Did you stick with what's on there?
I was having a buddy welding the truss hour away from my jeep, I made a mistake with the lower control brackets, welded them through left to right, had to cut them off, but the guys at Artec will not sell you replacements from the kit, will sell you only generic, which I had to gring , test, grind, test, and get adjustable control arms. Artec great product, lousy customer assistance.

As for the brakes, I stuck with what came in the 8.8, but I suspect the calipers might be sticking as I now hear a swush sound as the brakes getting hung up, goes away when I step on the brake pedal.
06-17-2014 02:42 PM
Ryan Angela
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Originally Posted by juan_p__m View Post
just got the tj back on the road, swapped dana 30 for a high pinion from Cherokee, the 8.8 with artec truss (DO NOT MAKE A MISTAKE WITH THE ARTEC, MISERABLE EXPERIENCE) drives straight, no vibrations, but very mushi brakes, bleed it several times, calipers in the correct position, but no matter how hard I step on the pedal, the brakes will not lock up. Pedal is had, does not feel mushi, but not very soft stopping.
Can you elaborate on the "mistake?" As soon as I hear back from the shop that's assessing my 8.8, I'll be ordering the artec truss kit. Glad to hear it's running smooth for you, interesting about the brakes though. Did you stick with what's on there?
06-17-2014 02:01 PM
juan_p__m
brakes...

just got the tj back on the road, swapped dana 30 for a high pinion from Cherokee, the 8.8 with artec truss (DO NOT MAKE A MISTAKE WITH THE ARTEC, MISERABLE EXPERIENCE) drives straight, no vibrations, but very mushi brakes, bleed it several times, calipers in the correct position, but no matter how hard I step on the pedal, the brakes will not lock up. Pedal is had, does not feel mushi, but not very soft stopping.
06-06-2014 07:40 AM
TJMARKS limited slip would be sufficient for the wheeling you do. you wont need actuall lockers unless ur getting into big rocks or real off camber. really would be nice with the front locked and limited slip in the rear you will still be able to steer fairly well. locked at both ends really doesnt like to turn very well in 4.
06-05-2014 12:54 PM
Ryan Angela Would it be foolish to think I can run with the limited slip that's in there and just lock the fronts? Not a daily driver, some snow and ice covered roads, mostly moderate dirt trails. Thoughts?
06-05-2014 12:01 PM
TJMARKS just an fyi for all of you doing or considering the 8.8 swap. i have had one in my jeep for about three years now. 31 spline out of 2000 explorer with disc brakes. and the axle shafts hold up well no issues there. but as far as locker choice i would stay very far away from the eaton e locker. the elocker for 8.8 is a pin style rather than a colar and is very prone to rounding off the tips of the pins and cuasing a ratchet and eventually no lock. replaced mine once already and am about to again.
06-02-2014 01:18 AM
jeeperdad1977 I lucked up n found an 8.8 already setup gears n all in a wrecked tj. Simply swapped it over. I did however retrofit an 88 wagoneer front in my tj and referred it. I built all my own brackets( will buy next time) and set it all up. Lots of research and lots of sitting n studying what I had n what was on the web. I've been wrenching on jeeps for 13 years now. As far as tools I just make sure I have 1 of everything on the floor under jeep with me. I leave it there till I'm done with that particular project. To the untrained eye it looks like a mess but I can tell ya each n every tool n bolt laying there. Lol just my 2 cents
05-28-2014 07:16 PM
CGreen Finished my swap about a month ago, I am glad to say all has been well. The axle works flawlessly. I have not beat on it yet because I wanted to make sure everything was set up right, but seems to be good.
05-28-2014 05:58 PM
Ryan Angela
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Originally Posted by sakicnut View Post
If anybody needs a build sheet for what you need to do the swap for TJ's let me know. I have an excel spreadsheet with the total cost and where to buy the products.
I never did get this from you, did you receive my pm? App was acting weird, each time I tried to send one it would take me back to a blank message screen with no trace that I sent one...
Either way, still very interested in any info you have to share, thanks.
05-28-2014 02:09 PM
Sheklikak
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Originally Posted by Ryan Angela View Post
My God man, pick your head up!

I had recently decided I needed to do this swap, set out to read up and gather knowledge. When I put word out about what I needed, I expected weeks/months to go by. 2 days and I get the call, come pick up your 8.8. I'm not ready and I don't know what I'm doing yet, and I'm a little scared.
We need to start a therapy group, meet on Wednesdays, take turn bringing the donuts.
05-27-2014 08:47 PM
Ryan Angela
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Originally Posted by Sheklikak View Post
I'm just going to confess right here, right now.

For years I've been researching this swap. I have tons of knowledge and facts and figures, I feel I could write a book on the subject. Lately I've tried replacing the main shaft on my TC. That was a miserable fail. Instead, I installed a SYE, body lift, motormount lift, been fighting with rear adjustable control arms and the rear track bar.

Ordered a JKS adjustable track bar, will install the control arms somehow, and am planning on going front wheel drive to a shop for the Ford 8.8 with 4.88 gears all around, Eaton lockers, drive shaft, Artec, chromos in front and a tie rod/drag link that is pure overkill.

Yes, I discovered over much pain and frustration that I am about the world's worst mechanic and I'm just too damn old to be getting up off the floor of my garage every ten minutes to fetch another tool, so I'm just going to save myself more grief (and money in the long run) and just have it done.

I'm so ashamed.
My God man, pick your head up! The world's worst mechanics have no idea when to put the wrench down and ask for help. I've never been a very skilled mechanic myself, (I get by ok) but I know exactly where you're coming from with the up/down/up/groan/pant/rest/where the hell is my 10mm?!?
I had recently decided I needed to do this swap, set out to read up and gather knowledge. When I put word out about what I needed, I expected weeks/months to go by. 2 days and I get the call, come pick up your 8.8. I'm not ready and I don't know what I'm doing yet, and I'm a little scared.
05-27-2014 08:34 PM
Sheklikak I'm just going to confess right here, right now.

For years I've been researching this swap. I have tons of knowledge and facts and figures, I feel I could write a book on the subject. Lately I've tried replacing the main shaft on my TC. That was a miserable fail. Instead, I installed a SYE, body lift, motormount lift, been fighting with rear adjustable control arms and the rear track bar.

Ordered a JKS adjustable track bar, will install the control arms somehow, and am planning on going front wheel drive to a shop for the Ford 8.8 with 4.88 gears all around, Eaton lockers, drive shaft, Artec, chromos in front and a tie rod/drag link that is pure overkill.

Yes, I discovered over much pain and frustration that I am about the world's worst mechanic and I'm just too damn old to be getting up off the floor of my garage every ten minutes to fetch another tool, so I'm just going to save myself more grief (and money in the long run) and just have it done.

I'm so ashamed.
05-27-2014 03:53 PM
hoprocket Can I run .016 backlash in ring gear and be alright I know speck said .008-.0015 ?? Don't think I can get another combo of shims in there !
05-23-2014 12:05 PM
Ryan Angela
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Originally Posted by sakicnut View Post
If anybody needs a build sheet for what you need to do the swap for TJ's let me know. I have an excel spreadsheet with the total cost and where to buy the products.
Just aquired my 8.8, a lot sooner than I expected. I'd appreciate any info/insight you're willing to share, thanks!
05-10-2014 10:49 AM
Medixtj01
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Originally Posted by sakicnut View Post
If anybody needs a build sheet for what you need to do the swap for TJ's let me know. I have an excel spreadsheet with the total cost and where to buy the products.
i wouldn't mind seeing one just to see what it costs and exactly what's needed.
05-10-2014 10:21 AM
sakicnut If anybody needs a build sheet for what you need to do the swap for TJ's let me know. I have an excel spreadsheet with the total cost and where to buy the products.
05-10-2014 09:49 AM
Medixtj01
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Originally Posted by jeepmonkey06 View Post
I was able to use mine. I just had to get the flange adapter.
ok thanks for the info just trying to plan out my build so I don't have to buy things twice
05-10-2014 09:47 AM
jeepmonkey06
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Originally Posted by Medixtj01 View Post
Dose anybody know if I can use the driveshaft that I would get for a Dana 35 on an 8.8? If so what is required to do this?
I was able to use mine. I just had to get the flange adapter.
05-10-2014 09:36 AM
Medixtj01 Dose anybody know if I can use the driveshaft that I would get for a Dana 35 on an 8.8? If so what is required to do this?
05-08-2014 09:03 AM
GoldenSahara00 Awesome man. I did the same thing. Let us know if you have any questions!
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