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01-24-2015 07:45 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by anderson2624 View Post
I am interested in opening sliding side glass windows for 07 JK 2dr Hardtop but can not find an aftermarket site. Anyone have ideas?
The problem with standard aftermarket RV sliders is that they require a flat mounting surface. The glass mounting surface of the JK factory hardtops is curved in both directions - if you install a standard slider in the factory hardtop, the curve will cause the slider to bind at best and at worst to not open at all.

I made the window mounting surfaces of the Safari Cab side panels flat to accommodate standard RV windows, but I've also come up with a "retrofit kit" that allows standard flat RV sliders to be mounted on the curved factory mounting surface; I'll be testing it as soon as the sliders I've ordered arrive (should be here in a week or so). I'll post the results of the test.

Also most of the RV window companies don't do "one offs" - they have a minimum quantity they'll manufacture; the smallest quantity I've seen is 25 pieces of glass - since the left and right windows would use the same glass, that means a minimum quantity of 13 sets of windows.

One company I know of that does to one-offs is Motion Windows (Boat Windows, Rv Windows | Motionwindows.Com). But their prices are about 8x the price of the windows I'm getting... I managed to get one of the RV window manufacturers to do a pair for me at quantity prices because of the possibility that what I'm doing could become a commercial product, but the RV window manufacturers won't do that for everyone.
01-24-2015 01:25 AM
anderson2624 I am interested in opening sliding side glass windows for 07 JK 2dr Hardtop but can not find an aftermarket site. Anyone have ideas?
01-21-2015 10:59 AM
jscherb A common mod done to Land Rover Defenders for camping/overlanding us is to turn the rear side windows of the hardtop into cargo compartments. In the LR world they call them Gullwing Doors, over here I'd call them swing-up hatches .



One of the nice things about the modularity of the Safari Cab is that it's really easy to have different configurations. You've seen the flip-out vent windows I've put in the first set of prototype Safari Cab side panels, and I've also got a pair of slider windows ordered - when they come in I'll just mold a second pair of side panels to install them in. That way I can configure the hardtop with either the side panels with the flip-out vent windows, or the side panels with the sliders.

I think I'll mold a third set of side panels, because I've found a source for inexpensive "gull wings". I haven't ordered them yet, but probably will pick up a pair to experiment with both access to the rear cargo area through the hatch, and with installing a box "cabinet" in the hardtop wall like the Land Rover examples in the photos above.

01-20-2015 10:00 AM
jscherb Gr8Tops, the company that manufactures and markets the TJ/LJ Safari Cab, posted some photos on their Facebook page of TJ Safari Cab in white they installed for a customer; being white, it made me want to compare it side-by-side with the white 2dr JK Safari Cab concept...

01-11-2015 12:59 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by Krooozr View Post
Please tell me some company has picked up your soft-top barn door design for production...that is exactly what I'm looking for when warmer weather comes back around!!!!
So far the JK Safari Cab and the barn door for the JK factory hardtop have not been picked up for production. I'd say the barn door version for the soft top is the very least likely to get to production, sorry.

What has been picked up for production from this thread so far (for the JK) are the heavy-duty hinges, the Hi-Lift mount and CB antenna mount. Also recently picked up are the spare-mounted jerry can holder and the spare-mounted cargo rack (I call it the Excursion Rack). All of those will be on the market very soon, with most being available by the end of January, according to what the company is saying.
01-10-2015 08:48 PM
Krooozr Please tell me some company has picked up your soft-top barn door design for production...that is exactly what I'm looking for when warmer weather comes back around!!!!
01-10-2015 03:26 PM
pablo_max
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
Thanks. I'm not interested in turning it into a business, I'm just doing it because this is what I want on my Jeep.

The LJ/TJ version is a business already, I've licensed it to Gr8Tops and it has been on the market for a while now.

I don't know if the JK version will become available, at the moment I plan to build one or maybe two. After that it'll take a company wanting to license it in order for it to be available.

I would also think that there is a serious market for this on the JKU.
Assuming the cost is reasonable, I would buy one.
01-10-2015 09:58 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by Scythian View Post
Cool idea but that top makes the Jeep look more like an older Toyota Land Cruiser. Not that there's anything wrong with that. You could turn it into quite a business.
Thanks. I'm not interested in turning it into a business, I'm just doing it because this is what I want on my Jeep.

The LJ/TJ version is a business already, I've licensed it to Gr8Tops and it has been on the market for a while now.

I don't know if the JK version will become available, at the moment I plan to build one or maybe two. After that it'll take a company wanting to license it in order for it to be available.
01-10-2015 09:52 AM
Scythian Cool idea but that top makes the Jeep look more like an older Toyota Land Cruiser. Not that there's anything wrong with that. You could turn it into quite a business.

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01-10-2015 09:46 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by Espo78 View Post
Has there been a price released yet on those hinges?
MORryde was quoting a price to people at the SEMA show that was significantly lower than any other JK tailgate hinges currently on the market. It's not my place to annouce their pricing though, so we'll have to wait until their formal announcement. I think people will be very pleased with the price if they come out anywhere near the price they were quoting.
01-10-2015 09:15 AM
Espo78 Has there been a price released yet on those hinges?
01-10-2015 09:05 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by pablo_max View Post
@jscherb. Wow. I am really impressed at the quality of your work. Also, the modeling work is really great!
Thank you very much!
01-10-2015 09:03 AM
pablo_max
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
Some views from inside... should be a lot better visibility out of the back of the Safari Cab than there is out of the factory hardtop. Also even though the windows are the same height on the outside, the visible area is 1.5" taller with the windows I used - the factory bonded windows have a very wide bonding flange on the inside that restricts the visible area quite a bit - 14.75" height for my windows vs. 13.25" for the factory windows, even though they're the same size on the outside.



With a vent window open:



In the photo above you can also see the bolt flange where the side panel bolts to the end panel, and on the floor in the background is one of the Toyota FJ40 hardtop side panels I took the vent windows from.


@jscherb. Wow. I am really impressed at the quality of your work. Also, the modeling work is really great!
01-10-2015 06:23 AM
jscherb Yesterday UPS delivered a set of early production JK Heavy Duty Tailgate Hinges to me for testing.

Here they are on the workbench, compared to a factory hinge. The only difference between these early production hinges and the final production hinges will be the included hardware - the final hardware will all be stainless.



Mounted on the test tailgate in the workshop:



I also tested my prototype CB Antenna Mount and Hi-Lift Carrier on the hinges; the other day I sent the engineering drawings for both to the company so they can gear up to manufacture them, but I hadn't tried them on the production hinges yet so I had to do that.



This next photo shows the Hi-Lift and the CB Antenna mounts both installed. I've also got my shovel attached to the shaft of the jack with Quick-Fist clamps.

01-09-2015 05:19 PM
buymerican
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
Here are a few more concept drawings - this time I've done wireframes over a JKU photo. The wireframes give an idea of the additional headroom inside the cab. I've also Alpine windows and a sunroof (a rear side sliding window too) to show where the windows would be in relationship to the seats. The first one is the Safari 0/1/2/3 concept:



And here's a wireframe of the stepped roof model I posted yesterday:

Safari 3 with two Alpine windows, sunroof, and sliding side windows is the one for me. I'd buy that tomorrow.
01-09-2015 10:48 AM
jscherb When I made the molds for the JK Safari Cab side panels, I made the window openings the same size as those in the later model factory hardtops. I did this so that any windows that got made for the Safari Cab, for example sliders, could also be adapted to the later model factory hardtops.

For the first set of prototype Safari Cab side panels, I installed something a little more custom than sliders - I did kick-out windows that I had from an old Toyota FJ40 hardtop:



The Toyota windows almost certainly wouldn't be in a production version, most likely a production version would have RV-style sliders or perhaps swing-up windows. I found a source for very affordable sliders in small quantities the other day, as as a test I made up a mockup of the frame in poster board to see how it might fit on the Safari Cab side panel. At left is the panel with the Toyota windows, at right I've overlaid the mockup frame.



I'll probably order a pair of these windows and mold a second set of Safari Cab side panels to test fit them in.
01-05-2015 11:43 PM
ee4516
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
A JK Safari Cab concept view I haven't posted before.

i own a polar jku and this would look so sweeet on it !!! i hope it goes into production !!!
01-04-2015 09:55 AM
jscherb A few more concept images I haven't posted here before.

Many of the concepts I've drawn have the Safari Cab painted in body color; here's one in "hardtop black".



This one is a JK-8 version of the Safari Cab, with swing-up side panels. Because the Safari Cab has integrated roof-rack support, a Maggiolina roof-top tent mounts right up.



The same one, but the Maggiolina and the swing-up side panels are closed.

01-04-2015 08:30 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by ljvsnyder View Post
Assuming pricing is on the mark i expect i will be testing these as soon as they are available.
If by "on the mark" you mean that the hinges would be priced below any other replacement JK tailgate hinges on that market, I think you'll be pleased .
01-04-2015 08:28 AM
jscherb A JK Safari Cab concept view I haven't posted before.

01-02-2015 01:42 PM
ljvsnyder Assuming pricing is on the mark i expect i will be testing these as soon as they are available.
01-02-2015 11:08 AM
SilverMiner I would prefer the high mount option for the Jerry can myself, allowing the tailgate full articulation. I'd buy the hinge with that mount today. Also, one possible benefit to that design, it *might* make a difference in causing a dangerous rupture in a minor rear-ender with some vehicles.
01-02-2015 10:58 AM
jscherb About the heavy-duty hinges and jerry can carriers I posted about earlier in this thread, the company that's bringing them to market (MOR/Ryde) sent an update email out today to people who had contacted them through their website "Contact Us" link. Here's what they said in that email:

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At SEMA, a catalog company that specializes in Jeep accessories expressed interest in working with us to bring the products to market. We provided samples for their review and are now finalizing the installation instructions. They are very pleased with the products and believe it will strike a nice chord with Jeep owners. We anticipate the products being added to their catalog in the very near future. In addition, we will be working with another company who works with Jeep owners and sells via Jeep forums.
We anticipate bringing the products to the market in late January. Thanks for your interest and your patience with these new products. We’re excited to be able to serve the Jeep market and their owners. "
01-02-2015 10:15 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
Roll Bars -> Molle Bars

This is off-topic for this thread, but I just finished a new project that applies to both the JK and the TJ/LJ. Here's the detail: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f282/ro...l#post15823001
This morning I posted some info about the JK version of the Molle Bar idea, please visit the thread and comment if it's something that might interest you.
01-01-2015 06:49 AM
jscherb There is a complication with the hinge mount though, depending on what size spare you've got. Here's are a couple of photos from a thread done in 2009 on JK-Forum. In it, the poster welded a jerry can holder to his lower hinge. He says in the thread "Note this is for running 32's, anything bigger you are on your own." What he means by that is that if the spare is larger, the jerry can has to mount further to the passenger side, which causes it to hit the tail light when the tailgate is open. It even looks like he doesn't have his tailgate fully open in these photos, although he never says that in the thread. There just isn't much room on the stock tailgate for a jerry can, it may fit with some spare sizes, but it probably will interfere with the tail light a full open position.



I have two solutions for that problem.

The first solution is optional stops for the heavy-duty hinges. The stops would install inside the hinges when they're bolted on, and would prevent the tailgate from opening more than 90 degrees. That would allow a larger range of spare sizes before the can hits the tail light.

The second solution is in the design of the brackets that hold the jerry can tray to the hinges -they're designed to be reversible, so the can tray can be mounted above the tail light. In this next series of mockup photos the posterboard brackets are shown installed in the lower and upper positions, and both styles of can tray are also shown. The upper position would work with pretty much any size spare and prevent any interference with the tail light.

01-01-2015 12:28 AM
OldJeepDude Hinge mount. That's 40lbs of fuel and the tire is higher to lift it to....
12-31-2014 11:33 PM
Dr.Ew +1 for hinge mount. Tire mount runs into issues with bike racks, other accessories.
12-31-2014 11:21 AM
ljvsnyder I like the hinge mount, as i plan to run a smittybilt heavy duty tire mount which uses a bolt through the center of the spare.
12-31-2014 10:55 AM
Txf8086 http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/these-...+matthardigree

Looks like Scherbs got a little press today on jalopnik
12-31-2014 07:59 AM
Espo78 The hinge style looks better aesthetically and then you can hang a trasharoo off the back tire. That's the version I would get if I needed to carry extra fuel.
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