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Today 11:19 AM
jscherb Hinged and tilted up, in the camper configuration.



Today 11:19 AM
jscherb I left the clear roof of the model hardtop unpainted, because on the Safari Cab when the roof isn't installed, it would look like this - just the upper door surrounds and the side and back panels (and ignore the clear part).



And that would allow for the installation of the soft roof:

Today 11:18 AM
jscherb The painted 1:10 scale model JK Safari Cab.

With no Alpine windows in the roof:



With two Alpine windows on each side of the roof:



Alpine windows can be installed one per side, on the left is one over the passenger row of seats, on the right is one over the cargo area:



With sunroof(s):

12-18-2014 02:00 PM
ljvsnyder Thank you
12-18-2014 12:45 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by ljvsnyder View Post
I contacted moryde about the heavy duty hinges and never heard anything back. Do you have a contact person i can email to findoit when they will come out
Sent you a PM with the contact info.

Last update I got from them was that they were talking with all the contacts they made at SEMA to determine the best distribution - selling them direct via their web site, selling them through one of the big catalogs, etc. As soon as I hear anything else, I'll let everyone know.
12-18-2014 11:53 AM
ljvsnyder I contacted moryde about the heavy duty hinges and never heard anything back. Do you have a contact person i can email to findoit when they will come out
12-18-2014 11:16 AM
jscherb Popped the second model roof out of the mold this morning. Did some quick trimming to fit on the hardtop, put on some Alpine windows and tried a few sunroof locations. Next I'll paint the roof and the hardtop dark gray and put some window trim on so the model looks a bit more realistic.

12-17-2014 03:27 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by rjf98 View Post
Have you ever thought about a you-tube channel? You know they have some sort of model where you can get paid for content. I would love to follow the channel if you did something like the car shows on TV showing 25-50% of the work you actually did and naming some of the products. Maybe you don't want to get into video production. Anyway, thanks for sharing, even if these never make it to production it is a whole lot of fun to watch them develop.
For many of my previous projects, I've done very detailed step-by-step coverage of the project, and that seems to have been very popular - the LJ Safari Cab thread has 1,302,580 views as I write this. For this project I'm not doing that much detail. I definitely don't want to do a "car show", that sounds too much like work and that would take all the fun out of it .
12-17-2014 02:59 PM
rjf98 Have you ever thought about a you-tube channel? You know they have some sort of model where you can get paid for content. I would love to follow the channel if you did something like the car shows on TV showing 25-50% of the work you actually did and naming some of the products. Maybe you don't want to get into video production. Anyway, thanks for sharing, even if these never make it to production it is a whole lot of fun to watch them develop.
12-17-2014 11:26 AM
jscherb A few shots of the 1/10 scale model roof. I haven't finished the trimming yet, so it's not fitting perfectly in these photos. There are a few flaws in this roof due to a resin issue, so rather than spend any more time trimming and fitting it, I'll mold another roof today and I'll spend the time fitting that one.

Mockups of the Alpine windows have been glued on to one side...







12-17-2014 09:52 AM
jscherb I've been working on a mold for the JK Safari Cab roof, and yesterday I molded a roof panel. Here it is just out of the mold - I haven't trimmed it or washed the mold release off yet.



If something doesn't look quite right to you about the roof panel in the photo above, you're right... it's a 1/10 scale model .

For most of my large design projects I build scale models to help visualize the design in 3d and to help me work through design and construction details. For example, when I was in the design phase of my fiberglass military trailer kit project, I made a 1/4 scale model so I could test exactly the details of bolting the tub parts together into the complete tub.

Here are a few photos of that model project:



Compared to the final full-size version:



I worked in 1/4 scale for the military trailer project model because I needed to actually bolt the parts together just like the full scale would bolt together.

For the JK Safari Cab roof, I'm working in 1/10 scale because there's a 1/10 scale JKU model on the market - it's made by Axial, and has a vacuum-formed body that looks like it's very accurately scaled. Since I've designed the Safari Cab side panels to be compatible with the factory hardtop size and shape, the roof panel I molded will fit correctly on an Axial hardtop.

Some photos of the Axial hardtop and an Axial JKU:



I'll get the new roof trimmed and fit to the Axial hardtop shortly, then we can see what the full scale JKU Safari Cab will look like.
12-13-2014 06:03 PM
jscherb Here's another option I've been thinking about for the JK8 (or a JKU with rear door fillers)...

The modularity of the Safari Cab design makes it possible to configure the entire side panels to swing up. I did some experimenting with the concept on the LJ Safari Cab a while back - I never did a complete implementation on the LJ, but it's definitely practical.

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Here's what a JK8 would look like with that option:



12-12-2014 02:21 PM
hayaku
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Originally Posted by jscherb View Post
I've seen some expedition vehicles with solar panels on the roof, but I don't think I've seen any with panels on the side. The Safari Cab side panels come out of the molds without the windows cut out, so if they were left uncut they could be a place to mount solar panels, or any other gear for that matter. I wonder if they would get enough sun mounted vertically like that?
what i would like to see is a hinge with gas shock supported arm to lift the solar panel out so it's lifts up to collect more sun rays. and if necessary, remove the solar panel from the side window mount and place on the ground or anywhere you would like with extension cords for the solar panel.

and to answer you question about the amount of sun, it changes throughout the day anyways, so an efficient setup needs to rotate to collect optimal sun rays anyways. i have a solar panel on my rv i keep to maintain the batteries while in storage and it's hanging vertical on the back of the rv and has been working like a champ. i remove it and stow it when traveling... only 10w i believe but it keeps 2 starting batteries with enough charge to start the rv even after a month of storage (not moving the panel around, just letting it hang in that one place so it gets really about 3-4 hrs of good sun only per day)
12-12-2014 10:43 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by Michel347 View Post
My dealer has one to sell, price is not that bad I think.

Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 2014 JK8 + RARE + UNIQUE d'occasion Ó vendre | Terrebonne, QC
Considering what the JK8 kit costs, plus labor, it does seem like a good price. And the dealer's web site had a photo that was just right for installing a Safari Cab on (sorry Espo78 )...

12-12-2014 10:21 AM
Michel347
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Originally Posted by Espo78 View Post
I was getting at the fact that almost daily you post up pictures of an awesome product that no one can buy (yet---hopefully soon). Plus the JK-8 model is bad ass looking and not that common due to the cost.
My dealer has one to sell, price is not that bad I think.

Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 2014 JK8 + RARE + UNIQUE d'occasion Ó vendre | Terrebonne, QC
12-12-2014 10:18 AM
jscherb Yesterday I whipped up another variation of the JK Safari Cab using the cardstock model:

12-12-2014 08:49 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by tomme12 View Post
Big fan of the barn door color match with wiper and defroster. Id offer two models. One with wiper and defroster and one without (just a window).
Thanks for the input.
12-12-2014 08:38 AM
tomme12 Big fan of the barn door color match with wiper and defroster. Id offer two models. One with wiper and defroster and one without (just a window).
12-12-2014 07:46 AM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by hayaku View Post
i just got another idea.. how about solar panels instead of rear side windows? those could keep the batteries topped off while parked/camping during the day....
I've seen some expedition vehicles with solar panels on the roof, but I don't think I've seen any with panels on the side. The Safari Cab side panels come out of the molds without the windows cut out, so if they were left uncut they could be a place to mount solar panels, or any other gear for that matter. I wonder if they would get enough sun mounted vertically like that?
12-12-2014 02:35 AM
hayaku i just got another idea.. how about solar panels instead of rear side windows? those could keep the batteries topped off while parked/camping during the day....
12-11-2014 09:51 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by lonsjeep View Post
Great idea. Bought a new Trooper in 1990, they had a 3/4 barn door and I loved it.
I bought my Trooper in 1989. Drove it 10 years and 145,000 miles before moving on to Jeeps. I guess that's where I first decided barn doors were the way to go .
12-11-2014 09:31 PM
lonsjeep Great idea. Bought a new Trooper in 1990, they had a 3/4 barn door and I loved it.
12-11-2014 04:53 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by Espo78 View Post
I was getting at the fact that almost daily you post up pictures of an awesome product that no one can buy (yet---hopefully soon). Plus the JK-8 model is bad ass looking and not that common due to the cost.
I never post a concept drawing without knowing for sure that it can be built, so everything I've shown here in this thread is possible. Whether or not any of it will ever get to production I have no idea, but it all could be built, and I'll be building prototypes for many of the concepts I've shown. If there's enough interest in some of the concepts, perhaps that will get a company interested in bringing some of the ideas to market.
12-11-2014 04:49 PM
Espo78 I was getting at the fact that almost daily you post up pictures of an awesome product that no one can buy (yet---hopefully soon). Plus the JK-8 model is bad ass looking and not that common due to the cost.
12-11-2014 04:44 PM
jscherb
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Originally Posted by Espo78 View Post
Well now you're just teasing us.
No, not really. Below is my LJ Safari Cab alongside photos of a Jeep J8, which isn't that much different than a JK8. The JK Safari Cab could easily be installed on either the J8 or JK8, and it would look like the concept drawing I posted this morning.

What's pictured in this morning's concept drawing is very practical and possible, and I've already done it LJ.

I suppose maybe thinking people might own JK8's could be teasing?



12-11-2014 04:31 PM
Espo78 Well now you're just teasing us.
12-11-2014 09:00 AM
jscherb Safari Cab on a JK-8 with roll-up soft sides...

12-08-2014 10:53 PM
Yukonflyer Hi again, the barn door looks like it's come out very nicely.
I'd say that option one would be a must for AME and a lot of other people anywhere that has a sloppy winter or spring. $800-1000 seems about right for price, even though it pains me to say that...

The Safari cab with four alpine windows and a sunroof and the tilt out side windows like you've done seems great to me. There are times it might be nice to have the hatch opening side windows to access things when in camp, but honestly with all the camping I did with my JKU I'm not sure those times would be all that frequent, the roll bar is just to much in the way back there.
I also like the integral rack mounts, doesn't really matter what jeep rack goes on, as long as it's easy to find bits for it. The other option would be to attach aviation grade b-line seat track on top and then the possibilities become endless for attaching and moving bars and baskets and tithing stuff down.

Looks great! Can't wait to see the final product! Kind of wish there was a way I could become the guy that licences and produces them. Who knows what the future holds.
12-08-2014 07:14 AM
jscherb This question came in response to my post yesterday about the roof rack:

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...the newest XJ racks are 13 years old. Have you checked out any newer jeep racks like perhaps a Liberty rack?
Even though I'm going to use an XJ rack on the prototype JK Safari Cab, the way I've designed the rack mounting points they'll be compatible with racks from a number of vehicles, and there are also aftermarket racks that would work well too like some of the ones from Perrycraft: Perrycraft - Racks, Rails, & Load Bars
12-07-2014 11:04 AM
migstwo I like the Safari Cab look a lot - either Unlimited or 2Dr version. The design to shed the load to the sport bars keeps the outside clean for the usual side mounts for the other rack designs. Great concept.
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