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12-23-2008 10:04 AM
Schwarttzy Hopefully I'm not bring a forum to dead back to life but i agree with Greg on the fact that NORA is copying NRA which is a smart Idea. NRA has gotten a lot done for people rights to fire arms.
09-17-2008 07:44 AM
4Jeepn Too many cooks in the kitchen. They need to merge into one super group and that way provide a one stop shop for the needs of the off-road community. That way you don't have to decide which of the 10 groups is best, which one has the most pressing issues, and who gets your money. One group, can stage a multi front attack and spread the money to the fight as needed.
09-17-2008 03:57 AM
1BLKJP Greg,

As all of you know I'm all for anyone and everyone being involved in keeping public lands open to recreation, but honestly I'm with the others here. I don't see where this group does anything different than what is already in place. The more I'm involved on a state wide and national level I just keeping getting more and more disapointed at the multitude of groups that are being created under the umbrella of taking care of all national OHV levels. Groups like BRC, United, Tread, NOHVC, etc...... All have the greatest interests at heart, but in my opinion most come about with certain "sponsors" and dilute the pool that we could use to really do some good. And yessir there have been places and times that national groups have gotten stays and injunctions thru legal action where a closure or EIS would've negatively impacted some form of OHV.
09-16-2008 04:49 PM
jeeptales
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No offense Greg, but it does like many organizations that already exist. It seems we have fragmented all outdoor recreation enthusiasts through too many entities like this. I may be way off base here, JMHO.

BTW no matter how we fight for our lands its all good. We all need to get involved.

Imagine a land access organization modeled a lot like the NRA.
  • Backed by big name retailers.
  • A massive membership who are passionate about land access.
  • Effective lobbyist with access to US and State Representatives
  • Armed with facts about (area) Real Environmental & Economic Impact Reports.
  • Bringing the voice of Jeep Owners, ATV, Dirt Bike and Sport SVUs under one organized umbrella.
  • Creating a public persona of the Modern Off-Roader to dispel the image of a drunken redneck and replace it with accurate image
    • Good Stewards of Public & Private Lands
    • Family Oriented activities
    • The face of the modern Off-Roader has changed dramatically
09-16-2008 03:51 PM
jeeptales
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Originally Posted by 4point View Post
No offense Greg, but it does like many organizations that already exist. It seems we have fragmented all outdoor recreation enthusiasts through too many entities like this. I may be way off base here, JMHO.

BTW no matter how we fight for our lands its all good. We all need to get involved.
I'm going to make a PodCast with the folks from Nora in the next few weeks and I'll send it you you guys so you can hear it.
09-16-2008 03:32 PM
4point No offense Greg, but it does like many organizations that already exist. It seems we have fragmented all outdoor recreation enthusiasts through too many entities like this. I may be way off base here, JMHO.

BTW no matter how we fight for our lands its all good. We all need to get involved.
09-16-2008 03:21 PM
jeeptales
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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn View Post
Sounds like stuff we already have?
there is more to it than that!

I have tried to reach United 4 WD seven or eight time by phone and email same from Tread Lightly; neither of them have ever returned a call or email ....And neither of which have ever successfully blocked a court case regaining access they have only only prolonged the process through injunctions.

So far all I have seen from U4WD and Tread Lightly don't seem to get anything done.


What Nora plans to do is develop economic and environmental impact studies through major universities so we can provide evidence to overturn legal decisions that keep us off properties. Their plan is to partner with retailers and members so it will to have to muscle to get something done with more than printing bumper stickers.
09-16-2008 01:01 PM
4Jeepn Sounds like stuff we already have?
09-16-2008 11:13 AM
jeeptales
Coming This Fall - The National Off-Road Association (NORA)

Please tell your friends about this...


Navigating rolling terrain, traversing tricky rock grades and spines, making your way through wild regions to reach expansive vistas - these are just a few of the reasons so many people are passionate about off-road adventures.

Every day, across the United States, off-road enthusiasts get into their off-road vehicles and take to the trail. However, the roster of the places where they can legally and responsibly go is shrinking.

That's where the National Off-Road Association (NORA) comes in. NORA will bring together responsible OHV enthusiasts to be a unified voice, to learn about important issues, and to strengthen the nationwide family of off-roaders so that they can affect change.

"It's important for off-roaders to come together as a community in order to continue doing what we love," says Mark A. Smith, Off-Road Hall of Famer. "NORA will help us to create that strong community."

Members of NORA will come together not only to share their passion about exploring off-road terrain, but also to share information. Many off-roaders don't know about impending trail closures, or they might hear of closures in their area but not those farther away. NORA will provide a network of information sharing so that members can stay up-to-date on all issues that affect them.

In addition to sharing information that is already out there, a specific example of how NORA will also help expand the knowledge base of the industry is by initiating three studies. These studies will be produced by a university or independent company with the goal of discovering, through information gathering, the real effects the off-road industry has on an economic, environmental, and geologic level.

NORA will also provide a place where members can make their voices heard. Members will not only be informed about issues, they'll also have the tools they need to do something about them. NORA will provide members an opportunity to speak to like-minded off-road enthusiasts, as well as reach out to those land management agencies and elected officials who are making decisions.

While becoming a member of NORA provides many benefits, including a wide array of manufacturer discounts and rebates, it also comes with some responsibility. Every month, members will be asked to respond to three Action Alert items, which will increase the organization's leverage and encourage positive change in the industry. Members will also observe an off-road code of ethics that will help balance the use of off-road trails with the need to maintain a healthy environment.

Strength and success for NORA will only come from a large group of passionate people who want their voices to be heard. This unified voice will help to preserve the off-road industry and ensure that people who love to off-road responsibly will be able to do so for many years to come.

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