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08-22-2012 08:41 PM
98 tj sport Ok so I ordered all the stuff to do this the other day and everything came in my only question is that the zj tie rod, the one that replaces the stock hollow tube doesn't have a zerk fitting at the tie rod it seems to be a sealed unit, is this right or can this somehow be corrected, I ordered it for a 98 grand with a 5.9, and got the one that connects to the pitman arm for the wrangler.
08-07-2012 09:27 PM
FlyNNN
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Originally Posted by FlyNNN View Post
... Otherwise this bar I got is useless.
Lesson learned.
08-07-2012 08:11 PM
1jeeplvr
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Originally Posted by FlyNNN View Post
I picked up a ZJ V8 tie rod at the local junk yard. I thought I would be able to replace the tie rod end but see its molded in to the bar. Is this end replaceable/rebuild-able? Otherwise this bar I got is useless.
Stop yelling!!! And you will not be able to use that tierod.Might make a nice paper weight
08-07-2012 07:35 PM
Gary2 nope , exactly why I bought all three parts new and still less than a hundred bucks
08-07-2012 07:32 PM
FlyNNN I picked up a ZJ V8 tie rod at the local junk yard. I thought I would be able to replace the tie rod end but see its molded in to the bar. Is this end replaceable/rebuild-able? Otherwise this bar I got is useless.
07-25-2012 07:39 AM
geiman
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Originally Posted by MarkNog View Post
The TJ one is pretty strong for anything under 35 inch tires.... When I bought the ZJ tierod, I snagged the drag link for an extra 10 bucks and I know I woln't need it on my 31s now but when im rolling on 35s it will be piece of mind that its in my back seat if I may need it.
I agree, but depending on the type of wheeling you do I'd still say it's worthwhile to upgrade the draglink. I've seen a few get bent without taking much abuse.

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Originally Posted by lynn View Post
I picked up a ZJ V8 tie rod/drag link assembly at the PA Jeeps show in the swap meet area, for $10 I saw at least two other sets there...

Ordered my Moog TRE from Amazon, so I should be able to install the whole assembly soon.
Definitely some good deals to be had there; I picked up a winch myself!
07-25-2012 06:35 AM
lynn I picked up a ZJ V8 tie rod/drag link assembly at the PA Jeeps show in the swap meet area, for $10 I saw at least two other sets there...

Ordered my Moog TRE from Amazon, so I should be able to install the whole assembly soon.
07-24-2012 10:30 PM
TheTJRod
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Originally Posted by Gary2 View Post
put a plug in it . Switch to zerk when grease is needed or use the other type of a fitting like in a CV joint has if you think its going to be an issue
The TRE I bought had a zerk and a plug with it. Convenient.
07-24-2012 08:15 PM
MarkNog
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Originally Posted by geiman View Post
I definitely would not keep the stock drag link if you plan on wheeling much. I'm not one that buys into the whole building a weak link into your system. I'd rather build a bullet proof rig that I can beat on without worrying about breaking anything, including a weak link. I've done a good bit of researching, and I've yet to see anyone complain of anything you've mentioned breaking after upgrading the steering. Anything is certainly a possibility, but I'd be surprised if you broke anything there.
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Originally Posted by TheTJRod View Post
FYI the stock TJ drag link is the same one on the V8 ZJ. it is a solid bar and uses the same larger diameter TRE's.

The TJ one is pretty strong for anything under 35 inch tires.... When I bought the ZJ tierod, I snagged the drag link for an extra 10 bucks and I know I woln't need it on my 31s now but when im rolling on 35s it will be piece of mind that its in my back seat if I may need it.
07-24-2012 08:03 PM
Gary2 put a plug in it . Switch to zerk when grease is needed or use the other type of a fitting like in a CV joint has if you think its going to be an issue
07-24-2012 07:54 PM
1jeeplvr Just got my parts installed.Wow,just looking at how much bigger they are makes me smile lol.
The only thing Im not crazy about,which is no big deal really is the zerk grease fitting on the pass side is pointed down.I can see it getting broken off on the trail.I guess if I really was concerned I could drill & tap a new hole for the fitting.
07-21-2012 12:53 PM
1jeeplvr
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Originally Posted by Gary2 View Post
right . the loose tie rod and sleeve go by the dr side
Cool thanks.
07-21-2012 12:47 PM
Gary2 right . the loose tie rod and sleeve go by the dr side
07-21-2012 12:26 PM
1jeeplvr Hey everyone.Got my Moog ZJ tie rod parts & noticed the ZJ drivers side tie rod is part of the bar that runs to the pass side tie rod.Where as the TJ drivers side tie rod is threaded into that bar.Is that right?
07-13-2012 07:56 PM
TheTJRod
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Originally Posted by MarkNog View Post
I would keep the stock drag link as a week point in the steering system so you dont break/bent the pitman arm, pump, or anything on the column when this monster steering setup finds the next weak link... this is just me though.
FYI the stock TJ drag link is the same one on the V8 ZJ. it is a solid bar and uses the same larger diameter TRE's.
07-13-2012 12:32 PM
Gary2 I think you will find the issue with the currie with short lifts is the angle of the draglink ends . they are angled so they are at the correct working angle and with low lift they are almost angled to far to do what the angle was designed for and then compress the suspension even farther and you can over extend the ends of the DL
If a ZJ TR is all you need by al means do it not eveyone needs a $450.00 Currie . I had one , it was one the Jeep when I bought it . Did I need it to go fishing or the little wheeling I did Nope . Not everyone needs the biggest , the baddest ,the best of the best , look how many stock Jeeps you see compared to jeeps with steering up grades going down the road. Its probably more than I need and it was cheap so I did it if for no other reason than just to handle a little larger tire a little better than what Jeep gave me and still have $350.00 to spend on something I do need ...... Ice for the Beer , bait etc
07-13-2012 07:40 AM
geiman
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Originally Posted by 1jeeplvr View Post
Ive heard of issues with the Currie setup with small amounts of lift.I have no experience only heard some people on here talking about it.What about the Crown set up.I heard thats decent.
It can be modified to work; I haven't done it personally, but I believe the drag link needs to be trimmed slightly at the adjuster. Otherwise it should fit.

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Originally Posted by 98 tj sport View Post
Just just one quick question does this just replace the one on the bottom, what about the one that connects to the pitman arm?
The Crown steering upgrade (essentially the ZJ upgrade) does come with a replacement drag link, but it is no stronger than the one currently on your TJ. Thus I'd skip the crown system and just get the tie rod to save a few bucks unless your drag link is in bad shape. Just keep in mind if you go this route that your drag link will still be a weak link. Keep an eye on the area around the adjuster; that's typically where it bends.

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Originally Posted by MarkNog View Post
I would keep the stock drag link as a week point in the steering system so you dont break/bent the pitman arm, pump, or anything on the column when this monster steering setup finds the next weak link... this is just me though.
I definitely would not keep the stock drag link if you plan on wheeling much. I'm not one that buys into the whole building a weak link into your system. I'd rather build a bullet proof rig that I can beat on without worrying about breaking anything, including a weak link. I've done a good bit of researching, and I've yet to see anyone complain of anything you've mentioned breaking after upgrading the steering. Anything is certainly a possibility, but I'd be surprised if you broke anything there.

And while the ZJ stuff is a good upgrade, it's definitely not a monster steering setup. If you guys need something stronger, checkout the Ultimate steering setup from Savvy:

Utlimate 4340 Heat Treated Tie-Rod for the Currie Steering

It's the Currie steering, but the tie rod is a solid heat treated 4340 rod that is "impossible" to bend permanently. It's made so that upon a large impact it will "bend" slightly but the heat treating causes it to spring back straight. I've landed my entire front end on it more than a few times without any issues.
07-12-2012 08:38 PM
MarkNog I would keep the stock drag link as a week point in the steering system so you dont break/bent the pitman arm, pump, or anything on the column when this monster steering setup finds the next weak link... this is just me though.
07-12-2012 08:09 PM
Gary2 I had the Currie on my last TJ and it was great and John stands behind his products. This TJ isn't going to be as big when its finished so I did the ZJ for a fifth of the price. I got the parts at NAPA , cost me like 85 bucks and about 15 minutes total to install including setting the toe. I think I even feel a difference on the road . Drag link is fine for the ZJ upgrade if you need a bigger draglink you need the Currie system to begin with.
07-12-2012 07:21 PM
TheTJRod
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Originally Posted by 98 tj sport View Post
Just just one quick question does this just replace the one on the bottom, what about the one that connects to the pitman arm?
The crown kit is both the tie rod and drag link.

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Originally Posted by Barrie View Post
I have been running the Crown set up for three years now, no issues.
I have it too.

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Originally Posted by LilYeller View Post
Im going to have to look into this, will this tighten up the steering a bit? mine feels really loose.
It will. It replaces 4 TRE's. If you get the one with the steering stabilizer that will help as well. You obviously will need an alignment afterwards.
07-12-2012 07:07 PM
LilYeller Im going to have to look into this, will this tighten up the steering a bit? mine feels really loose.
07-12-2012 06:58 PM
Barrie
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Originally Posted by TheTJRod View Post
The crown setup us the Zj parts
I have been running the Crown set up for three years now, no issues.
07-12-2012 06:55 PM
98 tj sport Just just one quick question does this just replace the one on the bottom, what about the one that connects to the pitman arm?
07-12-2012 05:35 PM
TheTJRod
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Originally Posted by 1jeeplvr
Ive heard of issues with the Currie setup with small amounts of lift.I have no experience only heard some people on here talking about it.What about the Crown set up.I heard thats decent.
The crown setup us the Zj parts
07-12-2012 04:36 PM
1jeeplvr Ive heard of issues with the Currie setup with small amounts of lift.I have no experience only heard some people on here talking about it.What about the Crown set up.I heard thats decent.
07-12-2012 01:15 PM
TheTJRod
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Originally Posted by jeepcritter
I'd like to do the zj tie-rod swap, and haven't found any at junk yards. When ordering online at a parts store, does it matter which engine? Also, what all do I need besides the actual rod and the two ends? Will that do it? Thanks.
It has to be the v8. I found the rite rid in a junk yard for 8 bucks and bought a new TRE for piece of mind. The drag link is the same so don't bother with that.
07-12-2012 11:14 AM
geiman
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Originally Posted by jeepcritter View Post
I'd like to do the zj tie-rod swap, and haven't found any at junk yards. When ordering online at a parts store, does it matter which engine? Also, what all do I need besides the actual rod and the two ends? Will that do it? Thanks.
Did you read this?

ZJ Tie Rod Conversion
07-12-2012 10:57 AM
jeepcritter I'd like to do the zj tie-rod swap, and haven't found any at junk yards. When ordering online at a parts store, does it matter which engine? Also, what all do I need besides the actual rod and the two ends? Will that do it? Thanks.
05-27-2012 10:30 PM
KrzyMoke
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Originally Posted by DevilDogDoc View Post
^^^ thats the one you want right there. Get it cheaper from Savvy Offroad
PM him for a price quote too forget the discount for us here but give him a shout
05-27-2012 10:28 PM
KrzyMoke
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Originally Posted by DevilDogDoc View Post
My would one buy that great big steaming pile of poo when the benchmark Currie can be had for $100 less with the upgraded Savvy tierod?
X2, I'm savin my pennies for that
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