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06-13-2013 12:40 PM
Ps3alltheway what do you mean? how many clicks did you have to do?
06-13-2013 12:28 PM
mudmagnet63
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Originally Posted by Ps3alltheway View Post
I know this is a old thread, but I tried adjusting my rear drums yesterday and I kept turning the adjuster upwards and seriously I probably did 25 clicks and I saw no improvements at all?!
PS3 I had the same issue and just when I was about to change directions it finally grabbed. My E-brake was almost useless before now it hooks up about 1/2 way up and holds tight.
06-13-2013 12:11 PM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by Ps3alltheway View Post
is it normal or not?
Go the other way and see what happens.
06-13-2013 12:09 PM
Ps3alltheway is it normal or not?
06-11-2013 09:35 AM
Ps3alltheway I know this is a old thread, but I tried adjusting my rear drums yesterday and I kept turning the adjuster upwards and seriously I probably did 25 clicks and I saw no improvements at all?!
03-26-2012 05:58 PM
tom4jeep Thank you for all the help, I will post pictures once I'm done adding a bracket and let people know how effective it is, hopefully I can help someone who has been having the same issues.
03-26-2012 09:33 AM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by tom4jeep View Post
are the brackets necessary? if so i have a great place to put the bracket just would take time to get it mounted. and also I think I asked in a past post, I bought the rectangle loop cables, can I just use a screw and nut to secure the cable to brake lever?
A pull cable needs the housing restrained at both ends for the cable to work. So yes, you need brackets for the cable.

I've not done the alternate attachment, I just bought 2 door JK cables when I did that one, but they are very long so give the small bolt a shot. I would try a small clevis or small repair link for chain if I was doing it.
03-25-2012 08:13 PM
tom4jeep are the brackets necessary? if so i have a great place to put the bracket just would take time to get it mounted. and also I think I asked in a past post, I bought the rectangle loop cables, can I just use a screw and nut to secure the cable to brake lever?
03-25-2012 07:11 PM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by tom4jeep View Post
I had to break the picture up into three shots of the axle. sorry if the quality is bad I took them from my phone. the cables I bought reach perfectly to the loop so I don't think I will need to flip the loop to the other side.
Sorry for confusing you. I flipped the calipers to the front so that meant I had to put make the cable brackets and put them on the back side of the axle.

You are looking for brackets similar to what I made only on the same side of the axle as the loop the cables hook into.
03-25-2012 06:57 PM
tom4jeep I had to break the picture up into three shots of the axle. sorry if the quality is bad I took them from my phone. the cables I bought reach perfectly to the loop so I don't think I will need to flip the loop to the other side.
03-25-2012 11:06 AM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by tom4jeep View Post
thanks i have the rectangle emergency brake line, do you suggest i send them back? or just make the fit ether with a screw and nut through the two, or cut the rectangle enough to allow it to fit in the loop. The previous owner had rubicon axles put in. It's a TJ 98
Those look very much like Rubicon JK axles according the how the brakes look.

The JK axles have a couple of brackets straight in line with the loop welded to the axle for the cable housings. Can you post up a pic a bit further back?

When I swapped the JK Rubi 44 into a friend's rig, I had to make the brackets for the cables so they would work correctly. I also flipped the calipers to the front side so the parking brake cables are in the back.



Does your axle have those brackets?
03-25-2012 12:32 AM
tom4jeep thanks i have the rectangle emergency brake line, do you suggest i send them back? or just make the fit ether with a screw and nut through the two, or cut the rectangle enough to allow it to fit in the loop. The previous owner had rubicon axles put in. It's a TJ 98
03-24-2012 06:24 PM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by tom4jeep View Post
here is a picture of the other side if it will help.
That loop is where the parking brake cable attaches. If you look at your first picture, about in the same spot is something that looks like that loop with half the loop missing.

Anyway, the parking brake cable has a round piece of steel that is sort of S shaped with the end of the S straightened out. That part goes into the loop and the brackets won't let it shift sideways far enough to fall out so it catches in the loop.

That is how the JK axle works.

The other two common styles of parking brake cable have either a rectangular loop for rear discs found on the ZJ, TJ, and Explorer or a round stop larger than the cable diameter for rear drum brakes.

What axle are you messing with and what are you putting it into?
03-24-2012 02:33 PM
tom4jeep here is a picture of the other side if it will help.
03-24-2012 10:58 AM
tom4jeep do you mean on the other side? because there is a lever with a round loop on it that flips up and down. if that is it how does it connect? am i missing a part? or is what your talking about in between that little black socket and the brake line?
thanks for helping
03-23-2012 09:09 PM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by tom4jeep View Post
Hey guys, I read through the past posts on the E brake stuff, and some of the terms i didn't quite pick up on, but seems like a lot of it is mainly for Drub brakes not disc. I have disc on the back and i can't see where the square loop fits in? do i have to jack it up to see? thanks for the help (picture attached so someone can point it out.)
The picture isn't really that clear, but right in line with back of the axle tube between the caliper and axle tube is a port with what should be a round loop sticking out on the end of a short lever. The one in the picture looks like it's broken off, can you tell if it is? Or is it just the way the light is working in the pic?
03-23-2012 08:57 PM
tom4jeep Hey guys, I read through the past posts on the E brake stuff, and some of the terms i didn't quite pick up on, but seems like a lot of it is mainly for Drub brakes not disc. I have disc on the back and i can't see where the square loop fits in? do i have to jack it up to see? thanks for the help (picture attached so someone can point it out.)
02-26-2012 08:32 PM
cowboy4
hand brake adjustment

thanks guys... found it.... under brake caliper.....would have been nice not to take tire and caliper off just for that adjustment.
02-25-2012 11:29 AM
Black Magic Brakes
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Originally Posted by cowboy4 View Post
guys... i just bought a 08 4d 4wd unlimited x and the hand brake needs adjusting. read all the clues here and i see nothing like what u r talking about. no t bolt or rubber boot for star adjustment ( had fj40 lc and know all about star adjustments). both cables go from rear wheels into bottom side of wrangler. i see nothing to adjust. dealership?....hope not. HELP!
There is a star adjuster in there. I believe you have to pull the rotor to adjust it though because your cables enter the backing plate where the adjuster would normally be. That said, look opposite of where the cables enter and see if there is a rubber plug. I just swapped a JK rear Dana 44 into a TJ and forgot to pay close enough attention.
02-25-2012 08:53 AM
cowboy4 bumper. did u have o take the tire completely off? or does yours have a rubber boot on back to adjust?
02-24-2012 11:52 AM
cowboy4
hand brake adjustment

guys... i just bought a 08 4d 4wd unlimited x and the hand brake needs adjusting. read all the clues here and i see nothing like what u r talking about. no t bolt or rubber boot for star adjustment ( had fj40 lc and know all about star adjustments). both cables go from rear wheels into bottom side of wrangler. i see nothing to adjust. dealership?....hope not. HELP!
02-20-2012 07:06 PM
Fortune thanks for my learing of the day
02-20-2012 05:35 PM
RW Bumper
Parking brake adjustment.

I have always had problems with my TJ's parking brake, and since I got 33" tires the brake does nothing and the handle comes all the way up. I even tried to get the stealership to fix the parking brake and they said there was nothing wrong with it!!!
I've been reading all I could about adjusting my parking brakes on my 2003 TJ with 4 wheel disc brakes. I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong.
I just assumed that the star adjustment was horizontally positioned and that I would move the brake spoon sideways to adjust.
I just found a drawing that shows the adjustment star is actually vertical and I should be moving the brake tool so that the handle goes up to tighten!
12-22-2010 08:36 PM
mtbikbob Love those Vids!!! You guys are just tooo cool.
12-22-2010 08:08 PM
jasonwrangler
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Originally Posted by mtbikbob View Post
Hmmmm.... and I thought they just dont work so good. And you can know when your parking brake has to be pulled more than 1/2 way up.
I didnt adjust mine correctly and I need to pull over 1/2 to get it work, but still better than before.
I think you need adjust them so that they slight dragging but you still be able to turn the wheels using hands, and as long as you stop the tires shouldnt rotate more than one turn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN6z0oIZLBk
12-22-2010 08:03 PM
mtbikbob
adjusting

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Originally Posted by jasonwrangler View Post
I think you need to adjust the brakes so that the are "barely" dragging in order to get the adjuster working. I adjusted mine to not dragging and the adjusters wont adjust.
Hmmmm.... and I thought they just dont work so good. And you can know when your parking brake has to be pulled more than 1/2 way up.
12-22-2010 07:42 PM
jasonwrangler I think you need to adjust the brakes so that the are "barely" dragging in order to get the adjuster working. I adjusted mine to not dragging and the adjusters wont adjust.
12-22-2010 07:10 PM
mtbikbob
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Originally Posted by BobInBeantown View Post
OK, so I took the impatient, cowardly way out -- I took off the wheel, removed the brake drum, located the adjusting star wheel, and made the adjustment by hand. Worked like a charm. Yeah, go ahead, I know you want to - call me a wuss! :-)

And, yes, it does stop a lot faster now. Woulda left my lip marks on the windshield if I hadn't been wearing my seat belt...

Muchas gracias a todos,
B.
lol.
Naah...folks like me have worked on em so much, we know what it is and where to find it. Its good you took off the drum and saw it. Now you have first hand knowledge.
12-22-2010 04:42 PM
Cliffmelanie1 I'll have to try this also. My parking brake is useless! Thanks
12-22-2010 03:08 PM
BobInBeantown
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Originally Posted by mtbikbob View Post
Yup yup yup, its there. With a light you should see that the adjusting wheel teeth is slanted in one direction, that will also help you realize what direction to turn the adjusting wheel. When your done adjusting you should have a slight drag on the tire. Assuming you have your rig up on a jack and you can spin the tire. Then when done adjusting both sides you will find you do not need to adjust the parking brake and that your jeep stops a whole lot quicker.
OK, so I took the impatient, cowardly way out -- I took off the wheel, removed the brake drum, located the adjusting star wheel, and made the adjustment by hand. Worked like a charm. Yeah, go ahead, I know you want to - call me a wuss! :-)

And, yes, it does stop a lot faster now. Woulda left my lip marks on the windshield if I hadn't been wearing my seat belt...

Muchas gracias a todos,
B.
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