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01-02-2013 07:23 PM
SXR311 Definitely post up pics...

Thanks


After installing a amp and sub box today on the inside, now it's time to brighten up the streets with some new DDM Tuning stuff.
12-30-2012 09:16 PM
SIXTI
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Originally Posted by necromancer_tat View Post
Pics!

I will post them soon. Sorry I won't have 'before' photos coz I was really excited to try the new ones on. I want to post 'after' photos taken from a very dark place so that you can see how they really light things up at night.

: dance:
12-30-2012 07:31 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by SIXTI View Post
I installed mine just now! They're awesome!
Thanks for the posts. I made my purchase decision entirely based on the information from this thread.

Pics!
12-30-2012 06:41 PM
SIXTI I installed mine just now! They're awesome!
Thanks for the posts. I made my purchase decision entirely based on the information from this thread.
12-30-2012 12:41 PM
Neil F.
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Originally Posted by SXR311 View Post
Do the lights still work well? Any issues with the DDM kit?
I plan to do this soon, but I have Delta head lamps.

Hopefully these will work.
You really should go with ecodes if you are going to use HIDs
12-29-2012 08:39 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by SXR311 View Post
Do the lights still work well? Any issues with the DDM kit?
I plan to do this soon, but I have Delta head lamps.

Hopefully these will work.
The lights still work great, they're super bright and I haven't had any issues at all with them. That being said I only put about 2 or 3 thousand miles on my Jeep a year driving to or from trails, and I recently bought a trailer and tow rig so it'll be mostly a trail only Jeep from now on so I won't be the best judge of long term street use daily driver style. If they break I'll be sure and post up what I did to make them fail. I'm good at breaking stuff!
12-29-2012 07:09 PM
SXR311 Do the lights still work well? Any issues with the DDM kit?
I plan to do this soon, but I have Delta head lamps.

Hopefully these will work.
12-29-2012 08:32 AM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by SXR311 View Post
Any updates from NecroMancer?

Curious how VA inspection went.

Thanks. Great thread.
I haven't gotten my Jeep inspected this year, I barely drive it on the street anymore.
12-28-2012 09:13 PM
SXR311 Any updates from NecroMancer?

Curious how VA inspection went.

Thanks. Great thread.
12-05-2012 08:35 AM
SIXTI
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Originally Posted by Neil F. View Post
What sticker?
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Originally Posted by wmdavis007 View Post
If they are Hella e-codes then they are not DOT approved and they are for offroad use only here in the States. But A LOT of people run them here...as for a "sticker" saying for offroad use only, if they do not have DOT in the glass they are not legal. But I run them and have never had a problem passing inspection
Mine neither have the warning sticker nor the DOT writing on the glass.
12-05-2012 08:29 AM
SIXTI
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Originally Posted by Neil F. View Post
What sticker?

I did not have the warning sticker that you can see on Mr. Necromancer's lights. I think I also see one on his box. My housings are the exact same with the same writings but they just don't have the warning stickers.

12-04-2012 05:36 AM
wmdavis007 If they are Hella e-codes then they are not DOT approved and they are for offroad use only here in the States. But A LOT of people run them here...as for a "sticker" saying for offroad use only, if they do not have DOT in the glass they are not legal. But I run them and have never had a problem passing inspection
12-04-2012 04:58 AM
Neil F. What sticker?
12-03-2012 10:54 PM
SIXTI Just got my hella Ecodes lights from Quadratec today in the mail. They did not come with bulbs but I will use DDM's bulbs. I noticed that they did not come with the infamous "sticker" that would deem them somewhat illegal so I am happy about that.
I will post pictures after completing the installation when the DDM kit arrives.

Thank you all, I truly appreciate the good information.

Hopefully Bambi's and her fawns will be safer around me at night.
11-21-2012 11:46 AM
Neil F. Well I'm used to doing resarch. (Engineer here) Sometimes better technical answers can be found on websites more quickly than waiting for answer in a thread (and sorry to say, sometimes incorrect answers or shooting from the hip)

ece headlight - Google Search first hit on Wikipedia has the information

Regulations and requirementsModern headlamps are electrically operated, positioned in pairs, one or two on each side of the front of a vehicle. A headlamp system is required to produce a low and a high beam, which may be achieved either by an individual lamp for each function or by a single multifunction lamp. High beams (called "main beams" or "full beams" or "driving beams" in some countries) cast most of their light straight ahead, maximizing seeing distance, but producing too much glare for safe use when other vehicles are present on the road. Because there is no special control of upward light, high beams also cause backdazzle from fog, rain and snow due to the retroreflection of the water droplets. Low beams (called "dipped beams" or "passing beams" in some countries) have stricter control of upward light, and direct most of their light downward and either rightward (in right-traffic countries) or leftward (in left-traffic countries), to provide safe forward visibility without excessive glare or backdazzle.


ECE dipped/low beam
Asymmetrical low beam illumination of road surface – right-traffic beam shown

[edit] Low beamLow beam (dipped beam, passing beam, meeting beam) headlamps provide a distribution of light designed to provide adequate forward and lateral illumination with limits on light directed towards the eyes of other road users, to control glare. This beam is intended for use whenever other vehicles are present ahead. The international ECE Regulations for filament headlamps[5] and for high-intensity discharge headlamps[6] specify a beam with a sharp, asymmetric cutoff preventing significant amounts of light from being cast into the eyes of drivers of preceding or oncoming cars. Control of glare is less strict in the North American SAE beam standard contained in FMVSS / CMVSS 108.[7]

[edit] High beam
ECE high/main beam
Symmetrical high beam illumination of road surface

High beam (main beam, driving beam, full beam) headlamps provide a bright, centre-weighted distribution of light with no particular control of light directed towards other road users' eyes. As such, they are only suitable for use when alone on the road, as the glare they produce will dazzle other drivers. International ECE Regulations permit higher-intensity high-beam headlamps than are allowed under North American regulations.[8]

[edit] Compatibility with traffic directionalityMost low-beam headlamps are specifically designed for use on only one side of the road. Headlamps for use in left-traffic countries have low-beam headlamps that "dip to the left"; the light is distributed with a downward/leftward bias to show the driver the road and signs ahead without blinding oncoming traffic. Headlamps for right-traffic countries have low beams that "dip to the right", with most of their light directed downward/rightward. Within Europe, when driving a vehicle with right-traffic headlamps in a left-traffic country or vice versa for a limited time (as for example on vacation or in transit), it is a legal requirement to adjust the headlamps temporarily so that their wrong-side beam distribution does not dazzle oncoming drivers. This may be achieved by methods including adhering opaque decals or prismatic lenses to a designated part of the lens. Some projector-type headlamps can be made to produce a proper left- or right-traffic beam by shifting a lever or other movable element in or on the lamp assembly.[9] Many tungsten (pre-halogen) European-code headlamps made in France by Cibié, Marchal, and Ducellier could be adjusted to produce either a left- or a right-traffic low beam by means of a two-position bulb holder.


Headlamp sold in Sweden not long before Dagen H changeover from left to right hand traffic. Opaque decal blocks the lens portion for low beam upkick to the right, and bears warning "Not to be removed before 3 September 1967".Because wrong-side-of-road headlamps blind oncoming drivers and do not adequately light the driver's way, and blackout strips and adhesive prismatic lenses reduce the safety performance of the headlamps, some countries require all vehicles registered or used on a permanent or semipermanent basis within the country to be equipped with headlamps designed for the correct traffic-handedness.[according to whom?] North American vehicle owners sometimes privately import and install Japanese-market (JDM) headlamps on their car
11-21-2012 10:54 AM
03Ruth
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Originally Posted by Neil F. View Post
The light pattern is between DOT and E-code is different. (FYI ....Google it)
I did google it and couldnt find an answer without reading through a ton of posts and page after page of info. Thats the point of this forum is to help each other answer questions that we have answers for, not to tell everyone to google it like you always seem to do. I dont always have time to spend researching a simple question.
11-16-2012 08:51 AM
Neil F.
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Originally Posted by 03Ruth View Post
Necromancer...
I currently have the hella vision plus with the HB2 bulbs. Would it be possible to upgrade to the setup you are running and use my existing housings? I know I would need to do the wiring upgrade but wasn't sure what the difference was between the two housings besides one not being DOT approved.
The light pattern is between DOT and E-code is different. (FYI ....Google it)
11-16-2012 03:41 AM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by 03Ruth View Post
Necromancer...
I currently have the hella vision plus with the HB2 bulbs. Would it be possible to upgrade to the setup you are running and use my existing housings? I know I would need to do the wiring upgrade but wasn't sure what the difference was between the two housings besides one not being DOT approved.
The DDM tuning HID's replace normal halogen headlights, so as long as you buy the kit that matches what your housing takes then it should work.
11-16-2012 03:34 AM
03Ruth Necromancer...
I currently have the hella vision plus with the HB2 bulbs. Would it be possible to upgrade to the setup you are running and use my existing housings? I know I would need to do the wiring upgrade but wasn't sure what the difference was between the two housings besides one not being DOT approved.
11-13-2012 03:34 AM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by mnatl View Post
thanks for writeup!
No problem.
11-12-2012 09:10 PM
mnatl thanks for writeup!
11-10-2012 06:53 AM
Neil F. Then buy elswhere
11-09-2012 08:12 PM
Synolimit Looks good.

But can someone explain to me how quadratec thinks they can get away with almost $15 for shipping and on PIAA 520 ATP they are charging me $38???!! The total with the combined is $48 just to ship to ohio.
11-06-2012 06:47 AM
povchrisw
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Originally Posted by necromancer_tat View Post
Mine didn't have that.
strange, based on what im seeing from pics on your review you do have them.. i cant say removing them made a huge difference in light projection but i can clean them if they get hazy now.
11-06-2012 06:44 AM
povchrisw low:


high:


jeep was parked about 25feet away from the wall.
11-05-2012 02:41 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by povchrisw View Post
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here is the pic of the hella reflector.. i removed both of them as my kensun bulbs already have reflectors and i needed to clean the haze on the lens. ill upload a wall pattern pic when i adjust them, prob tonight.
Mine didn't have that.
11-05-2012 01:37 PM
povchrisw [IMG][/IMG]

here is the pic of the hella reflector.. i removed both of them as my kensun bulbs already have reflectors and i needed to clean the haze on the lens. ill upload a wall pattern pic when i adjust them, prob tonight.
11-04-2012 08:48 AM
povchrisw I will try and post pics of both hella light deflector and light pattern on a wall as soon as I get my new bulbs in
11-02-2012 08:31 PM
KaiserJeep For what it's worth, my HID auxilliary lights had a failure to reliably start on one bulb. I made it work for a while by turning it off/on a time or two until the bulb started. It got steadily worse and I cured it with a new HID BULB.

I gotta say, I still have misgivings about HID's in Halogen reflectors versus the projector housings. Could you please publish the light pattern on a wall when you do the following aim procedure?

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/images/Aim.pdf

11-02-2012 04:30 PM
necromancer_tat
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Originally Posted by povchrisw View Post
by shroud i mean the reflector shield inside the hella housing
Mine didn't come with what you're describing. Can you post a pic?
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