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02-14-2009 04:44 PM
GrnTJ Yea, the guy I was gonna get it from went away on vacation for like an entire month or something. I dont really know, he just kinda said he was leaving for like 25 days and then he'd be back or something. So he still has it but I guess Im gonna get it from him later. Bottom line, its still mine!
02-13-2009 11:50 PM
Felsengleiskette sweet, glad 2 hear wrenches and swear wordz in your immediate future...
01-26-2009 05:09 PM
GrnTJ Well, I love to drag up my old threads when things finally start to happen again. So i found an np435 with a D300 adapter from AA already installed for cheap. This means buying. Which in turn means it will be going in sooner that this summer. This also means to stay tuned for pics that will be up soon. Thank you for reading, you are now free to return to your regularly scheduled threads
12-25-2008 10:53 PM
GrnTJ Sweet man you should deff. give me a call then (I pm'ed you my #). I got 10 acres myself. I hunt very rarely but a few of our friends hunt it. Anyway, call me up and let me know what your doing and help however I can. I might put this trans off until it gets warm but it is deff. going in. Got a set of 79' F250 axles that Im debating building up and running 38-40's on or maybe just keeping my current axles (since they are already built to the hilt!) and just runnin 36's. Havent decided yet but god knows it will probably be the full widths eventually anyway. I have plenty to keep me busy over winter anyway (once I grab some more welding wire that is). But again, let me know whats up and maybe we can go wheelin a bit once you get it all together.
12-25-2008 01:33 PM
Felsengleiskette do all my hunting in pinckney
12-25-2008 01:31 PM
Felsengleiskette luv'in this build brother... i'd really dig to check it out once its under way! we spoke before, im in redford mi. and currently building my conversion. id like to pick yer brain on "gearhead" stuff. im clueless in that arena.
12-24-2008 12:58 AM
GrnTJ Thanks for your help man, I really appreciate it!
12-21-2008 01:02 AM
Docsuperwrench
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Alright, this is a pretty tech question but I figure if Im lucky someone may be able to answer it for me. I have been searchin some more and I found out that the dodge 435's used a 23 spline output shaft instead of a 28 spline like the ford. This would allow the Dana 300 to be used due to its 23 spline inout shaft! Then I could build myself an adapter to go from the 435 to the 300 so it would bolt up and I wouldnt need to buy the very costly adapter kits by AA or Novak. So my question is, does anyone know if the internals can be swapped between the Ford and Dodge np435's? If the answer ends up being yes then that would mean one could use the Ford np435 with the Jeep T-176 bellhousing to adapt it to the I6 engine and swap a dodge output shaft with the 23 splines in so it mates to a np231 or D300. You would just need to build or buy the adapter plate itself. Since I figure buying just the output shaft for a dodge will be cheaper than a custom one from AA or Novak again. Long post, sorry, but if anyone knows about this please let me know.

p.s.
Hooray for the new builders corner!! I like it
I do a lot of 435 conversion in jeeps, as far as using the 23 spline dodge output in a for 435 trans, yes it will fit. If you put the Dodge output shaft in the Ford 435 transmission and use a ford 435 to 205 adapter you can bolt a d300 to the back of it.The ford adapter has the same circle bolt pattern as the d300 you may have to re drill and tap the front holes in the t-case if you want to rotate or flip the d300.
12-07-2008 11:11 AM
GrnTJ I understand. If it is the dodge 435 I cant use it though. The CJ bellhousing will only mate the Ford 435 to a 4.0L. Thanks for tryin to help me out. I just hope the other guy backs out and he has to come back and offer it up to me again. Im not really mad at the guy but that was just a really lame move to pull imo.
12-07-2008 08:22 AM
64panhead its a 73 dodge i will look into it after the holidays are over i just dont have that kind of money right now
12-07-2008 12:02 AM
GrnTJ Wow really? Dude thats awesome. Guess its karma? How ironic. That would be really cool though. Let me know if/when you decide to buy it for sure. What truck was it again? Just didnt remember if it woulda been a king pin or ball joint front 60.
12-06-2008 10:35 AM
64panhead well that guy just burned that bridge to the ground. never deal with him again nomatter what he has. i found my old truck that had my old np435 in it i can buy the whole truck for 300 bucks. if you wanted the tranz out of it i would work a deal with you on it becaus i want the dana 60s that are in it
12-05-2008 11:45 PM
GrnTJ Doh! Guy I was gonna my trans from decided to abck out today because someone else offered him $80I dont really get it, I know $$ is tight these days but Im a man of my word. When I say something is sold to someone then it is sold to them, an extra $20 does not mean that the previous person then gets screwd over after I already made a deal with them. Anyone else feel this way or am I one of the few that has learned to honor a deal!?
11-30-2008 07:41 PM
GrnTJ Thanks panhead. Pics will be up Sunday of my new trans. D300 is next on the list.
11-30-2008 03:22 PM
64panhead pm sent on a dana 300
11-30-2008 01:19 AM
GrnTJ Thanks, I can only cross my fingers that I can continue to find deals like that. Still need Dana 300, bell housing, and everything else that goes along with swapping an auto over to a manual
11-30-2008 12:31 AM
jpdocdave nice find
11-30-2008 12:12 AM
GrnTJ Alright, so Im finally gonna be collecting some of my parts. Made a deal and I will be picking my trans up this weekend for $60... Now onto the t-case and other junk I'll need
11-09-2008 05:50 PM
GrnTJ From what I understand there is no differene betweent he years. Ford used the transmission from '66 to '92 I believe it was. The Ford 435 is the one you want because thats the one that will bolt up to the T-176/T-150 bellhousing (as Im sure you know). On a side note, some of the Dodge 435's were produced with a 4.56:1 1st gear as well. You dont want to use a dodge 435 for mroe than jsut that reason but thought Id share. I was told to look for on from a mid 70's to mid 80's F series truck. Another side note, the 4WD version that used a divorced transfer case came with the 2WD version of transmssion (square bolt pattern for adapter). Good luck scowering the junk yards!
11-08-2008 09:47 PM
bardenk1 i got a question is there any real variation between the 70's and 80's np435 does that matter because i have been hunting and the older np435's are half the price of the later np435's
11-05-2008 04:06 PM
GrnTJ Ok. Guess I may have to do some experimentation.
11-05-2008 04:04 PM
64panhead sorry man the only np435 i ever had was divorced to a np205
11-05-2008 04:00 PM
GrnTJ Nobody?
11-04-2008 07:52 PM
GrnTJ Alright, this is a pretty tech question but I figure if Im lucky someone may be able to answer it for me. I have been searchin some more and I found out that the dodge 435's used a 23 spline output shaft instead of a 28 spline like the ford. This would allow the Dana 300 to be used due to its 23 spline inout shaft! Then I could build myself an adapter to go from the 435 to the 300 so it would bolt up and I wouldnt need to buy the very costly adapter kits by AA or Novak. So my question is, does anyone know if the internals can be swapped between the Ford and Dodge np435's? If the answer ends up being yes then that would mean one could use the Ford np435 with the Jeep T-176 bellhousing to adapt it to the I6 engine and swap a dodge output shaft with the 23 splines in so it mates to a np231 or D300. You would just need to build or buy the adapter plate itself. Since I figure buying just the output shaft for a dodge will be cheaper than a custom one from AA or Novak again. Long post, sorry, but if anyone knows about this please let me know.

p.s.
Hooray for the new builders corner!! I like it
11-02-2008 06:56 PM
GrnTJ Lol, I dont really mind. Your doing the same thing anyway. Since Im gonna be a slow ass and not be even started before you likely finish, I will watch how it comes out for you. I put some new mirriors on my Jeep today to replace the shattered one and also got my oil changed and rear seat put back in. Nothing to further me towards this project. Im going to try and start when this semester ends so I can bring it back to school all finished up. I cant get the job done at my apartement, not enough tools/warm place to work.
11-02-2008 06:42 PM
bardenk1 well i figured i would let yo guys know i got the ax-15 out today and tomorrow is order parts day i just won a t-176 bell-housing off of e-bay gonna get that shipped to novak. it is really straight foward and very easy i had my helper(aka girlfriend) help me drop the trans. well ill get some pics tomorrow and most likely start my own thread and stop robbing this one
11-01-2008 02:48 PM
GrnTJ Yea, I read up on it. tubing a drive shaft is pretty simple and deff. very cheap.
10-31-2008 07:18 PM
64panhead i am making my own rear drive shaft from a cj7 rear shaft and retubing it. it really isnt hard. after trading my tj front drive shaft for a rear cj7 shaft i got 7 bucks in the retube
10-31-2008 12:00 AM
GrnTJ And thats all i really want is to put it in low, take my foot off the gas, and idle her over whatever I find. A 122:1 ratio is plenty for that. Thanks for that drive shaft link, Im gonna have to do that for sure. Even build one just to carry as a spare.
10-30-2008 10:33 PM
bardenk1 you can build drive shafts for under 100 bucks

Driveshaft Shortening 101 - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board

i am in the process of doing the same swap as grntj i have a d30 np231 doubler i am loking in the neighborhood of 214:1, i will regear the axles to bring me back to 170ish as i said before grn tj is right you dont need that much hell be happier than a pig in shit the first time he puts it in 4 low with the double 124:1 is low as it is i dont even use gas or brakes on any obstacle ever
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