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05-30-2013 12:04 AM
woansleftpeg
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Originally Posted by Tizz View Post
Have 2013JK... looking to have kenwood DNX6990HD installed and Crutchfield says no harness is available. Anyone run across this? Looks like RichTheGeek put a DNX6990 in a 2012 and had great instructions.
I believe that a change in the firmware being shipped on more recent '13s has caused some issues with PAC harnesses. I don't know if the same is true with Metra harnesses, but I did see somewhere that Crutchfield were erring on the side of caution and basically saying that they couldn't offer any harness with guaranteed compatibility with a '13.

My recommendation would be to call or email PAC and Metra and ask them to provide a definitive answer as to whether they have a harness that's compatible with your vehicle. The PAC RP4-CH11 works perfectly in my '13 JKU with a build date of December '12; if your build date is prior to that I would say that you will be fine, if it's after that then I don't know.
05-29-2013 07:23 PM
Tizz
DNX6990HD in a 2013JK???

Have 2013JK... looking to have kenwood DNX6990HD installed and Crutchfield says no harness is available. Anyone run across this? Looks like RichTheGeek put a DNX6990 in a 2012 and had great instructions.
05-22-2013 10:47 AM
CoreyZ I was going to, but decided against it. Its too easy to adjust volume and change tracks by using gestures on the screen so I skipped it.
05-22-2013 09:10 AM
otaku30
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Originally Posted by CoreyZ View Post
I removed my 430N and dropped in the Parrot Asteroid Smart unit. So far I love it. Its shallow so I dont have to worry about supporting the back of it, but I did have to modify the plastic frame surrounding it behind the dash. I also had to remove the old metal bracket which is making the dash not fit super tight so I have to look into some mod for that as well.
CoreyZ - did you use the UNIKA module from Parrot for the install?
05-22-2013 08:43 AM
CoreyZ I removed my 430N and dropped in the Parrot Asteroid Smart unit. So far I love it. Its shallow so I dont have to worry about supporting the back of it, but I did have to modify the plastic frame surrounding it behind the dash. I also had to remove the old metal bracket which is making the dash not fit super tight so I have to look into some mod for that as well.
05-22-2013 06:49 AM
woansleftpeg
Quote:
Originally Posted by insylem View Post
A few things.
Lets see if I get this correct

A Doubble DINN unit DOES fit in the Wrangler Sport?
Yes, but you have to remove the factory bracket for it to fit and you may also need to buy a dash kit appropriate to the size of your aftermarket unit.

Quote:
Also: How well do these after market units hold up to "Oops I'm caught in the rain with the top off" ?
Unless marketed as "marine rated", assume it will be as water resistant as the stereo in your front room.
05-22-2013 01:35 AM
insylem A few things.
Lets see if I get this correct

A Doubble DINN unit DOES fit in the Wrangler Sport?

Also: How well do these after market units hold up to "Oops I'm caught in the rain with the top off" ?
02-15-2013 08:42 AM
eboven The SWI module has a 3.5mm headphone jack as well as a blue/yellow wire coming out of the same place as the jack. Use this and connect it to the blue/yellow wire from your Kenwood's main harness; you won't need the 3.5mm jack...
02-15-2013 07:16 AM
dan12jws For those with the CH11 SWI, what did you plug it into? The constructions say it plugs into the wired remote input, and I don't see that on my Kenwood 6990HD.
10-22-2012 01:05 PM
Nathan_R Oops, my bad, it's the RP4-CH11: PAC RP4-CH11 Chrysler Radio Replacement Interface Lets you install a new stereo in select 2004-up Chrysler vehicles while retaining steering wheel audio controls at Crutchfield.com

Ezymount-- I mounted the Sirius antenna on the frame under the padding above the passenger side seat. I think that's where the factory puts it, as well. I haven't had any noticeable reception issues.
10-21-2012 04:15 PM
_3m
Quote:
Originally Posted by pastis
Is there a part number for the metal bracket that we hacksaw? I cut mine on the top, rather than the bottom, and I'm thinking that's why my unit sticks out at an odd angle past the faceplate.

Also for what it's worth, I replaced my two PAC units (CHY4 and the SWI) with the combination RP11 and now I have a ton of room around the head unit for all the other stuff. I wish I had done that the first time around.
Who makes the RP11 ?
10-21-2012 02:24 PM
ezymount
Sirius/XM reception

Any issues so far with Sirius/XM reception, and where did you mount the antenna for the Sirius Tuner module ? I have been told reception in spotty at times, when using aftermarket antennas..?

Thanks, Jim

[QUOTE=pastis;2781137]I also just finished installing a 6990 last night in my '12 JKU. The worst part in my opinion was finding room near/behind/under the head unit for the Sirius tuner, the ginormous iPod cable, and the two PAC wiring harnesses. Hacksawing the bracket was annoying, but straightforward.

Overall I think the Kenwood iPhone integration beats the RBZ/uConnect combo I had in there before by miles, and I'm no longer reliant upon a portable dash-mounted nav unit that I had to remember to lock up every time I left the car.
10-11-2012 03:51 PM
Nathan_R Is there a part number for the metal bracket that we hacksaw? I cut mine on the top, rather than the bottom, and I'm thinking that's why my unit sticks out at an odd angle past the faceplate.

Also for what it's worth, I replaced my two PAC units (CHY4 and the SWI) with the combination RP11 and now I have a ton of room around the head unit for all the other stuff. I wish I had done that the first time around.
10-02-2012 11:04 PM
_3m I used the Metra Axxess CHTO-03 Interface wiring harness when I installed my DNX6910HD. Far better than the PAC units as you can update it. You can use it for steering wheel controls , factory amp, & GPS. It costs more but well worth it.

Btw with this harness you don't lose the ability to fade as you do with most of the PAC units
10-02-2012 07:23 PM
RichTheGeek Finally got around to putting a few installation instructions down to paper - relating to my DNX6990 in my 2012 Wrangler. Here's the link to the pdf file. Hope it helps.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/gallery...oadfile&i=6141
10-01-2012 08:36 AM
davefr
Quote:
Originally Posted by meeaspapa View Post
I was also wondering about getting the factory 430n installed in a Sport the sales guy told me it can't be done.
Your sales guy is wrong!!! It took me all of 10 minutes to put a 430n in my '13 Sport.
09-30-2012 12:42 AM
meeaspapa
Quote:
Originally Posted by davefr
I just ordered my 2013 Sport S and now need to get serious about finding a new HU with in dash NAV.

Is there an aftermarket unit that:
- Doesn't sacrifice steering wheel controls
- Uses the Uconnect/Bluetooth feature that's part the connectivity package
- Uses the std. OEM combined Sirius and GPS antenna connector
- Compatible with the premium Alpine speaker/amplifier system (probably same as Infinity)
- Looks decent (almost like factory)

OR, is the factory 430N (RHB) unit the best solution:
- 100% plug and play with all other factory features from what I understand. (but expensive)

Thanks

P.S. NAV and ease of installation is more important that ultimate sound quality.
I was also wondering about getting the factory 430n installed in a Sport the sales guy told me it can't be done.
09-17-2012 02:51 PM
RichTheGeek Oh, one more thing for those who are installing it themselves. You'll need to cut the rear unit bracket in order for the 6990 to fit. It sits pretty snuggly on the AC plenum, so you aren't using the loss of any support back there. Here's the cut:
09-17-2012 02:41 PM
RichTheGeek Pastis:

I agree - it's pretty crowded behing the radio for all of the cables. My saving grace was that I didn't have the Sirius tuner.

In regards to the fit. Mine seemed to fit just fine. Now that I recall, I did have to modify the interior bracket a bit. Luckily it was plastic and not visible, so I didn't have to be too careful. Just took a flush trim router bit and a drill. Here's the pics:


As for the Ipod cable: I chose to put that on the outside - so that I could plug either a USB player or an iPod in. I just found a panel mount USB extender and a 4-contact 3.5mm audio cable and ran them down and past the the sticks on the floor and up into the storage console between the front seats (see pic). Besides the Kenwood unit I had to buy a PAC-C2R-CHY4 adapter and a PAC-SWI adapter (for the steering wheel controls).

Oh, I also had the stock base radio, so that might have made my job easier as well.

Rich
09-14-2012 09:40 PM
sonofcj I just emailed PAC and they said the only harness I needed for my 12' was the RP4-CH11. They said it would keep all steering wheel functions and leave options for accessory and navi outputs. I have a sport s with base radio and going Sony XAC-601, so maybe that's why schj98 listed so many adapters.
09-11-2012 12:25 PM
Nathan_R I also just finished installing a 6990 last night in my '12 JKU. The worst part in my opinion was finding room near/behind/under the head unit for the Sirius tuner, the ginormous iPod cable, and the two PAC wiring harnesses. Hacksawing the bracket was annoying, but straightforward.

I replaced the four 6.5 Infinity "premium" speakers (dash and soundbar) with the Mopar Kicker ones, left the tweeters in place for now, and added an 4 channel amp for the Kickers and one for the stock sub. The amps are both mounted under the steering column. Infinity amp is still mounted, but unused. Tomorrow I'll replace the stock tweeters and sub. If I had planned my upgrade ahead of time instead of just hitting BUY BUY BUY all over Amazon, Crutchfield, and eBay, I would have opted for a set of components for the front woofers/tweeters, but it'll all work out eventually.

Matching the pinouts for the speaker outputs wasn't exactly fun, but in the end, all 6 speakers and the sub are cranking out pure audio bliss. My hands are cut to hell from working hours in the tight squeeze under the dash and behind the kick panel, but my cabling is fairly tidy in spite of the blood, sweat, and cursing involved. My only gripe is that my faceplate isn't perfectly aligned with the double din cutout in the dash panel. I can see one of the mounting screws in the gap of plastic. I'm not sure if I warped something in the subdash or what, but I'll tinker around a bit more this weekend to make it better.

Overall I think the Kenwood iPhone integration beats the RBZ/uConnect combo I had in there before by miles, and I'm no longer reliant upon a portable dash-mounted nav unit that I had to remember to lock up every time I left the car.

I think the new head unit is showing just how bright/harsh the stock tweeters are. From what I've gathered, the stock premium Infinity amp was just passing through the full range signal to them, so any change at this point will be for the better. I have the Infinity tweeters currently running directly to the HU via high level, while all the Kickers are running via RCA to the amp. I'm hoping the crossovers in the Kicker KS13s arriving tomorrow will alleviate the shrill sound blasting my ears. Or then again, maybe it was always this bright with the RBZ and Infinity amp and I just didn't realize or know any better. Guess I'll find out tomorrow.
09-10-2012 09:12 PM
RichTheGeek Just finished installing a DNX6990HD as well. Went with Crutchfield - their installation directions were helpful and I like that I could call them any time for help - didn't need to though. Install was pretty straightforward.

I love the 6990. Processor is faster, so you don't have the speed issues that the previous models have. I love being able to use voice to access my phone's directory to make a call. The mobile phone connects via bluetooth the as soon as the 6990 boots (wish that was faster, but you can't have everything). The ipod interconnect is nice - it's pretty easy to control the ipod via the radio's screen. Navi is good, but it seems like it tells me that the traffic is congested ahead only once I'm in it. Put in the steering wheel control module (PAC-SWI) but it doesn't allow scrolling through the presets like the stock radio could, which is a bummer. Does volume control, though, so it was worth it.

If you know which end of a soldering iron to pick up and how to use a screwdriver, you probably could install this beast. No dash cutting or ugly mods, though I did have to cut an interior bracket.

Rich
06-10-2012 10:25 AM
davefr I just ordered my 2013 Sport S and now need to get serious about finding a new HU with in dash NAV.

Is there an aftermarket unit that:
- Doesn't sacrifice steering wheel controls
- Uses the Uconnect/Bluetooth feature that's part the connectivity package
- Uses the std. OEM combined Sirius and GPS antenna connector
- Compatible with the premium Alpine speaker/amplifier system (probably same as Infinity)
- Looks decent (almost like factory)

OR, is the factory 430N (RHB) unit the best solution:
- 100% plug and play with all other factory features from what I understand. (but expensive)

Thanks

P.S. NAV and ease of installation is more important that ultimate sound quality.
06-10-2012 08:32 AM
davefr
Quote:
Originally Posted by schj98 View Post
Just installed the Pioneer AVH-P8400BH in my '12 sport its a great unit. (not a nav radio)

You do need to remove the metal bracket behind the factory radio so the Pioneer will fit. I used the screws that attached the bracket to support a piece of heavy gauge solid wire looped around the radio to provide rear support which did the job nicely.

To do the install you need the following accessories:

PAC C2R-CHY4 CANBUSS adapter
PAC SWI-PS if you want to retain steering wheel controls
PAC PAC-TR7 if you want to bypass the parking brake lockout
Metra 40-EU10 antenna adapter
Metra 95-6511 Dash Kit or Scosche CR1291B Dash Kit

If anyone has questions let me know.
Can you post some images?
06-09-2012 12:18 AM
schj98 Just installed the Pioneer AVH-P8400BH in my '12 sport its a great unit. (not a nav radio)

You do need to remove the metal bracket behind the factory radio so the Pioneer will fit. I used the screws that attached the bracket to support a piece of heavy gauge solid wire looped around the radio to provide rear support which did the job nicely.

To do the install you need the following accessories:

PAC C2R-CHY4 CANBUSS adapter
PAC SWI-PS if you want to retain steering wheel controls
PAC PAC-TR7 if you want to bypass the parking brake lockout
Metra 40-EU10 antenna adapter
Metra 95-6511 Dash Kit or Scosche CR1291B Dash Kit

If anyone has questions let me know.
06-04-2012 11:18 PM
ronrad
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Originally Posted by DustinLH00

I hadn't heard about the idatalink maestro until you mentioned it. I checked out their website and it looks like they are starting with Ford Sync and that isn't even available yet. Sounds like it may be awhile before it comes out for uconnect.

Thanks for the info and I would love to see pics if you get them.Did you change out any speakers? How much of an improvement in sound have you noticed since swapping?
Idatalink maestro looks interesting but yeah its going to be a wait. I would like the source switch controls to be hard buttons instead of all touch screen (or use voice)

As to mods, I have a few other things I've done

Here's my main thread:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/why...er-152077.html

Short version is I now have two 4 channel class D amps (polk D4000.4) with a bridged 400 watts into the sub, morel xt23 tweeters in stock location, Seas Excel midranges in front stock location on custom mounting plates, Polk MM651 in soundbar, replaced stock sub with Kenwood Excel 8", and poly filled and dynamatted all enclosures.

Best bang for the buck was the MS-8 hands down. Even with everything I've done when I turn it out I'd have a lot tuning to do to get to sound like it does with it in. It's actually not a bad amp straight up on it's own as well (driving all speakers) The other stuff is definitely an improvement for sound quality, and the Kenwood is functionally way better than the stock head unit for music playback etc.

The Kenwood slaughters the stock deck in bluetooth sound quality. It seems to be pretty darn close to the aux in straight out of my android. Pandora control from the headunit is also awesome. HD Radio sound quality is also no comparison. *WAY* better. CD playback is marginally better for sound quality, way better for transport. My stock CD skipped all over the place. Same CD in the new unit is rock solid. Aux in sound quality again is similar to marginal improvement in sound quality
06-02-2012 11:43 PM
DustinLH00
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Originally Posted by ronrad View Post
I'm waiting for the idatalink maestro for unconnect. I bought the pac can bus adapter for Chrysler that crutchfield recommended. If the idatalink bombs ill by the pac steering wheel adapter. Right now i have lost steering wheel controls. I soldered about 5 wires and ran a line out to my ms8 processor along with remote amp turn on. No cutting of stock wires so completely reversible. Removed the stock radio and one stock mounting plate using two bolts. This is a 2012 jku with infinity and uconnect btw.

Literally took me under 1 hour as I was waiting for a conference call to start.

Used the mounting adapter provided by Crutchfield and it sits quite nicely. Ill try to add a pic
Also at the moment I don't have the USB wired into it. So far Bluetooth seems to work well enough but eventually I want to hook the head unit USB port to the unconnected USB port in the console. Oh for the GPS antenna I just stuck it ontop of the head unit. So far it seems to work perfectly. If I run into issues ill run that up to a roll bar
I hadn't heard about the idatalink maestro until you mentioned it. I checked out their website and it looks like they are starting with Ford Sync and that isn't even available yet. Sounds like it may be awhile before it comes out for uconnect.

Thanks for the info and I would love to see pics if you get them.Did you change out any speakers? How much of an improvement in sound have you noticed since swapping?
06-02-2012 12:36 AM
ronrad
Quote:
Originally Posted by DustinLH00

Did you have to do any thing special to fit it in the dash? Did you get the SWI (steering wheel interface) to keep the steering wheel controls? And what module for uconnect are you referring to? Thanks for the good info!
I'm waiting for the idatalink maestro for unconnect. I bought the pac can bus adapter for Chrysler that crutchfield recommended. If the idatalink bombs ill by the pac steering wheel adapter. Right now i have lost steering wheel controls. I soldered about 5 wires and ran a line out to my ms8 processor along with remote amp turn on. No cutting of stock wires so completely reversible. Removed the stock radio and one stock mounting plate using two bolts. This is a 2012 jku with infinity and uconnect btw.

Literally took me under 1 hour as I was waiting for a conference call to start.

Used the mounting adapter provided by Crutchfield and it sits quite nicely. Ill try to add a pic
Also at the moment I don't have the USB wired into it. So far Bluetooth seems to work well enough but eventually I want to hook the head unit USB port to the unconnected USB port in the console. Oh for the GPS antenna I just stuck it ontop of the head unit. So far it seems to work perfectly. If I run into issues ill run that up to a roll bar
06-01-2012 11:33 PM
DustinLH00
Quote:
Originally Posted by ronrad View Post
This is an excelon so its supposed to be better sound q. So far the HD radio sound is excellent however reception is still not great so I'm thinking the antenna is suspect. My stock hundred had crap reception as well

Bluetooth sound quality for streaming is actually quite good. With unconnect and stock I ended up hardwiring it was so lousy

The Pandora Android integration is super nice.

The map works quickly and overall speed is good. Phone integration is excellent with android. Traffic. Seems to only cover major roads though

Overall pretty pleased. I'm using.g tthe ms8 for active speaker setup and crossovers as well as equal and time alignment so incantations speak to how well those features work however the lineout is great sq from all my sources

Haven't put backup Cam in yet also waiting for the promised integration module for unconnected although I may just breakdown and buy a Sirius receiver
Did you have to do any thing special to fit it in the dash? Did you get the SWI (steering wheel interface) to keep the steering wheel controls? And what module for uconnect are you referring to? Thanks for the good info!
06-01-2012 11:02 PM
ronrad
Quote:
Originally Posted by DustinLH00

How do you like it? I am hearing mixed things on the Kenwoods with sound and navi...
This is an excelon so its supposed to be better sound q. So far the HD radio sound is excellent however reception is still not great so I'm thinking the antenna is suspect. My stock hundred had crap reception as well

Bluetooth sound quality for streaming is actually quite good. With unconnect and stock I ended up hardwiring it was so lousy

The Pandora Android integration is super nice.

The map works quickly and overall speed is good. Phone integration is excellent with android. Traffic. Seems to only cover major roads though

Overall pretty pleased. I'm using.g tthe ms8 for active speaker setup and crossovers as well as equal and time alignment so incantations speak to how well those features work however the lineout is great sq from all my sources

Haven't put backup Cam in yet also waiting for the promised integration module for unconnected although I may just breakdown and buy a Sirius receiver
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